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Show Me the Wire 06-09-2017 01:04 PM

Special counsel Robert Mueller
 
, due to Comey's testimony, should resign and recuse himself from the Russia Investigation. Mueller by all accounts is a close friend of Comey, to avoid the appearance of impropriety he needs to recuse himself from the investigation.

I hope some level-headed elected officials start calling for Mueller to recuse himself.

Tom 06-09-2017 03:36 PM

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I hope some level-headed elected officials start calling for Mueller to recuse himself.
Santa Claus
Easter Bunny
Level-headed elected official
Big Foot
Tinker Belle

Speaking of that, how about that little turd of a justice Darth Vader Ginsberg recusing herself for any suit involving Trump after Kathy-Griffin level comments about him. Will the useless little old bitch sit it out?

Show Me the Wire 06-09-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2182005)
Speaking of that, how about that little turd of a justice Darth Vader Ginsberg recusing herself for any suit involving Trump after Kathy-Griffin level comments about him. Will the useless little old bitch sit it out?

No doubt she should. The solicitor General should make a motion for Justice Ginsberg to recuse herself every time the Solicitor General represents President Trump in front of the Court.

Show Me the Wire 06-09-2017 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire (Post 2182034)
No doubt she should. The solicitor General should make a motion for Justice Ginsberg to recuse herself every time the Solicitor General represents President Trump in front of the Court.

Justice Ginsburg.

Tom 06-09-2017 04:24 PM

She really is not deserving of spelling name correctly. :puke:

Hank 06-09-2017 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire (Post 2181875)
, due to Comey's testimony, should resign and recuse himself from the Russia Investigation. Mueller by all accounts is a close friend of Comey, to avoid the appearance of impropriety he needs to recuse himself from the investigation.

I hope some level-headed elected officials start calling for Mueller to recuse himself.

What tortured logic yields this conclusion?

Tom 06-09-2017 04:57 PM

What feeble minds would disagree with it?

Hank 06-10-2017 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2182090)
What feeble minds would disagree with it?

What tortured logic yields this conclusion?

barn32 06-10-2017 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2182005)
Speaking of that, how about that little turd of a justice Darth Vader Ginsberg recusing herself for any suit involving Trump after Kathy-Griffin level comments about him. Will the useless little old bitch sit it out?

Where is the hypocrite Margie Rose now?

fast4522 06-10-2017 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by barn32 (Post 2182409)
Where is the hypocrite Margie Rose now?

I could be wrong, I do that like everyone. The possibility that she has a full life that sometimes takes over is a very real possibility. That is unlike yourself that is.

Show Me the Wire 06-12-2017 12:28 PM

t's somewhat ironic, no? I mean, the whole purpose of the special counsel is to have a prosecutor from outside the government and outside of the normal chain of command because inherent conflicts render the Justice Department incapable of handling it. So, now the special counsel is a close friend (mentor/mentee relationship) with the star witness, who by his own admission leaked the memos at least in part to engineer the appointment of a special counsel. Only in Washington. You can't make this stuff up.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/by...rticle/2625638

If Mueller does not resign it calls his credibility into question. The appearance of impropriety is unavoidable, in light of Comey's testimony. Comey, by his own admission, leaked his FBI work product, through a friendly third-party, to the press with the intent to have a special counsel appointed. How much influence did Comey have on the selection process of Mueller.

If he does not resign, the DOJ should terminate him from his position of special counsel.

Greyfox 06-12-2017 01:20 PM

Comey was fired on May 9.
On May 17 Mueller was appointed.
In view of his close friendship with Comey, Mueller should never have accepted the appointment.
It's doubtful that he will recuse himself.
A Senate Intelligence Committee should recommend to the President to fire him.

barn32 06-12-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyfox (Post 2184011)
Comey was fired on May 9.
On May 17 Mueller was appointed.
In view of his close friendship with Comey, Mueller should never have accepted the appointment.
It's doubtful that he will recuse himself.
A Senate Intelligence Committee should recommend to the President to fire him.

Comey didn't appoint Mueller, Rosenstein did.

Comey didn't have any idea who would be appointed.

Being friends with someone isn't grounds for recusal.

I don't think you could have a more honorable, experienced and honest man in the job than Mueller.

Of course if the whacko, alt-right doesn't get their way about every little thing they cry like whiny little bitches.

Greyfox 06-12-2017 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by barn32 (Post 2184019)
Being friends with someone isn't grounds for recusal.
.

Of course not. :lol::rolleyes::lol:

PaceAdvantage 06-12-2017 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by barn32 (Post 2184019)
I don't think you could have a more honorable, experienced and honest man in the job than Mueller.

Both Dems and Reps used to say the same thing about Comey at one time....now...not so much, depending on the day of the week.

Show Me the Wire 06-12-2017 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyfox (Post 2184011)
Comey was fired on May 9.
On May 17 Mueller was appointed.
In view of his close friendship with Comey, Mueller should never have accepted the appointment.
It's doubtful that he will recuse himself.
A Senate Intelligence Committee should recommend to the President to fire him.

Supposedly, Mueller has integrity. It is questionable that he accepted the appointment, however, it is no longer questionable, it is improper.

Let's see if Mueller actually possess the integrity accredited to him.

Show Me the Wire 06-12-2017 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by barn32 (Post 2184019)
Comey didn't appoint Mueller, Rosenstein did.

Comey didn't have any idea who would be appointed.

Being friends with someone isn't grounds for recusal.

I don't think you could have a more honorable, experienced and honest man in the job than Mueller.

Of course if the whacko, alt-right doesn't get their way about every little thing they cry like whiny little bitches.

We don't know what Comey knew or did not know. It is Comey's actions which are the basis for the call to recuse. Ethics require a recusal if there is an appearance of impropriety, which certainly exists in this case.

Show Me the Wire 06-12-2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by barn32 View Post
Comey didn't appoint Mueller, Rosenstein did.
A decision, which should be reversed due to Comey's actions. Hopefully, Rosenstein is asking Mueller to do the ethical thing and recuse himself.

barn32 06-12-2017 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire (Post 2184025)
Ethics require a recusal if there is an appearance of impropriety, which certainly exists in this case.

I would agree with you if Coney knew Mueller was going to get the job or if he actually did the appointing. Why would Rosenstein appoint someone who is apparently very close friends with Comey? You'll have to ask him.

DC is a big small town. Lots of people know each other and are friends or acquaintances.

If Trump agrees with you, he can fire Mueller, and Rosenstein will appoint someone else. However, in my opinion, he doesn't dare.

I personally think Mueller is honorable, and both "sides" could do much worse.

MargieRose 06-12-2017 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by barn32 (Post 2182409)
Where is the hypocrite Margie Rose now?

FYI Mr. Barn32, it just so happened that I saw your post first...my criticism stands. Libs, in general, have been far more abusive with their political rhetoric and actions than conservatives have been, and it's getting worse. However, although I agree with Mr. Tom's opinion of RBG (as I do with most of his opinions), his choice of adjectives in that particular opinion certainly should be condemned, as well...HE, as are most of the conservatives posting here, is better than that!

FantasticDan 06-12-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by barn32 (Post 2184029)
I personally think Mueller is honorable, and both "sides" could do much worse.

That's an understatement. Mueller's so well respected that the Senate passed special legislation in 2011 to extend his 10yr tenure another two years. The Senate vote was 100-0. His initial appointment vote in 2001 was 98-0.

Questioning his objectivity is pure panic and won't amount to anything. :blush:

Binder 06-12-2017 02:52 PM

Yes
 
Yes and Bill Cosby once had the #1 tv show and sold lots of Jello pudding
Would he get those deals today ?

FantasticDan 06-12-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Binder (Post 2184037)
Yes and Bill Cosby once had the #1 tv show and sold lots of Jello pudding
Would he get those deals today ?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...abfb5aaf1c.jpg

Clocker 06-12-2017 03:15 PM

The issue here is not logic. Quite the contrary, it is all about image and partisan politics. Mueller's friendship with Comey is the perfect foundation for the usual charges of cronyism and bias for anyone that doesn't agree with the outcome of the investigation. Why start out handing that kind of ammo to the inevitable mob that will not accept the findings, no matter how well done?

But I look forward to the circus and to the resulting recriminations. :popcorn:

reckless 06-12-2017 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Show Me the Wire (Post 2184028)
A decision, which should be reversed due to Comey's actions. Hopefully, Rosenstein is asking Mueller to do the ethical thing and recuse himself.

And let us not never, ever forget that it was the Rosenstein Memo which really sunk the shameful, shameless, partisan, disgraced ex-FBI head little Jim Comey, the worm or all worms.

FantasticDan 06-12-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2184049)
The issue here is not logic. Quite the contrary, it is all about image and partisan politics. Mueller's friendship with Comey is the perfect foundation for the usual charges of cronyism and bias for anyone that doesn't agree with the outcome of the investigation. Why start out handing that kind of ammo to the inevitable mob that will not accept the findings, no matter how well done?

You're underestimating Mueller's reputation. The complaining of some Trump supporters and various outliers doesn't really impact the reality that he's "one of Washington's most indispensable men".

Even Trump wanted him! :lol:

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/09/532286...ist-to-run-fbi

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And the idea that Rosenstein, who had been criticized for his role in the dismissal of Comey, reached into the White House process to fill the FBI post and invited Mueller to serve as a Justice Department special counsel underscores the heavy pressure Rosenstein was under to find an independent law enforcement leader to take charge of the Russia probe. Rosenstein's selection won applause from Congress and Justice Department veterans, who said Mueller would do the job without fear or favor.

PaceAdvantage 06-12-2017 03:52 PM

I'll repeat myself.

They said the same thing about Comey at one time. Since then, he's been on both party's shit lists at one time or another...

Clocker 06-12-2017 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FantasticDan (Post 2184069)
You're underestimating Mueller's reputation.

You are overestimating the number of people who know or care about that reputation. How many "deplorables" outside the Beltway know the players involved in this little drama? All they will hear on talk radio or the alt-right web sites is that Trump fired Comey and Mueller and Comey were buddies.

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Even Trump wanted him!
In Trumpland, that has a useful life span about about the same as two scoops of ice cream.

reckless 06-12-2017 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2184084)
You are overestimating the number of people who know or care about that reputation. How many "deplorables" outside the Beltway know the players involved in this little drama? All they will hear on talk radio or the alt-right web sites is that Trump fired Comey and Mueller and Comey were buddies.

In Trumpland, that has a useful life span about about the same as two scoops of ice cream.

The "deplorables" are a lot more in touch with reality than all the progressives, pseudo conservatives and outright RINOs that criticize them combined.

Most 'deplorables' also get their information from many sources, some even come from mainstream venues, and most ignore the alleged 'alt-right' web sites that the know-it-alls love to mention solely to deride and insult real conservatives and Trump supporters.

Critically mentioning 'two scoops of ice cream' also tells most people the limitation and seriousness of all those Trump critics, as well. Just like blaming the 'Russians' or the Macedonians or even Netflix for Hillary losing to Trump all sounds good to the weak minded, but serious people have their heads high and feet on the ground. We do know better.

reckless 06-13-2017 02:20 PM

I hope Jeff Sessions un-recuses himself in all matters 'Russian' when he is questioned by the silly senators this afternoon. He was a fool to recuse himself in the first place.

I hope Jess Sessions calls for phony partisan heel Robert Mueller to end this Special Counsel b-shat immediately.

If none of this happens by the time I go to bed tonight I will regularly call for President Donald John Trump to fire the corrupt and compromised Mueller, ASAP!

These phony witch hunts need to end now. It is criminal what the DC doucebags are doing to this country. I will not allow this coup (If stupid Obama was saying this, he'd pronounce it 'Koop', like the idiot he is.) to happen on my watch.

Then I hope President Donald John Trump calls for the arrest of all America haters in the FBI and CIA -- and those that committed treason, notably Barry Obama, Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, Eric Holder, Jim Comey, James Clapper, John Brennan, Loretta Lynch, John Kerry and a few dozen more Democrats.

Most of this won't happen, sad to say, but a citizen and a patriot could only wish for a return to decency and law and order once again.

PaceAdvantage 06-13-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by reckless (Post 2184371)
but a citizen and a patriot could only wish for a return to decency and law and order once again.

I believe you're going to be accused of being a racist for these words (it's code, don't you know...:lol:)

reckless 06-13-2017 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2184378)
I believe you're going to be accused of being a racist for these words (it's code, don't you know...:lol:)

But it can't be as bad as being accused of being a ... horse player?? :lol:

Nutz and Boltz 06-13-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MargieRose (Post 2184033)
However, although I agree with Mr. Tom's opinion of RBG (as I do with most of his opinions), his choice of adjectives in that particular opinion certainly should be condemned, as well...HE, as are most of the conservatives posting here, is better than that!

I'm sure Mr.Ginsburg, if he were still around , would not appreciate his wife being called such names . Don't some people around here proof read some of their posts before submitting? Maybe someone , somewhere is describing their wife in the the same manner. :ThmbDown:

reckless 06-13-2017 08:54 PM

Once again I call for all decent American patriots and citizens to write and to call both President Donald J. Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions and demand that Democrat partisan Robert Mueller be fired as Special Prosecutor and end this investigation.

Mueller is a life-long hack who just yesterday hired four far left Democrat operatives, including one with deep insidious ties to the criminal Clinton Foundation.

These four were hired for one thing only -- to cover and protect the true villains in this 'Russian' hoax story: Barry Obama, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and Loretta Lynch, all guilty of treason and other illegal conduct.

Tom 06-13-2017 08:59 PM

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The Senate vote was 100-0. His initial appointment vote in 2001 was 98-0.
I would suggest that the senate is 100% scumbags.
Says a lot about Golden Boy.

Tom 06-13-2017 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutz and Boltz (Post 2184456)
I'm sure Mr.Ginsburg, if he were still around , would not appreciate his wife being called such names . Don't some people around here proof read some of their posts before submitting? Maybe someone , somewhere is describing their wife in the the same manner. :ThmbDown:

If my wife was as much of a useless turd as Darth Vader, I would call her out. Act like a scumbag,e expect to get called a scumbag.

Ruth is is an enemy of this country.
Treat her as such.

fast4522 06-13-2017 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Binder (Post 2184037)
Yes and Bill Cosby once had the #1 tv show and sold lots of Jello pudding
Would he get those deals today ?

Ah, using the BAL formula again.

Nutz and Boltz 06-13-2017 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2184517)
If my wife was as much of a useless turd as Darth Vader, I would call her out.

Enuff said . I loved my wife , RIP , for better or worse. You sir, are one sick individual !
:(

tucker6 06-14-2017 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Nutz and Boltz (Post 2184573)
Enuff said . I loved my wife , RIP , for better or worse. You sir, are one sick individual !
:(

Sick? Why, because he is more outspoken than you? That's not sick. That's foul-mouthed. I don't condone it, but he has the right to use such language without being called sick. If he is okay with how it reflects on him, then so be it.

incoming 06-14-2017 07:21 AM

I'm curious....what would you call people that are to sensitive to live in the REAL world?


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