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| PaceAdvantage |
04-17-2017 05:08 PM |
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Originally Posted by boxcar
(Post 2154354)
Of course, it is. The bible everywhere teaches there is only ONE God; yet at the same time this one God is in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit -- Three Persons in ONE godhead. Or another way to understand this is ONE divine essence in three persons or three personalities.
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Sounds like moving the goalposts to me... |
| boxcar |
04-17-2017 05:34 PM |
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
(Post 2154357)
Sounds like moving the goalposts to me...
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Call it what you will...but the 3 in 1 doesn't violate the law of non-contradiction. There is one divine essence in three distinct persons. God, then, is absolutely three and absolutely one. This is how Jesus could say, for example, "I and the Father are one." They are not the one and same person but they are one in their essence. |
| thaskalos |
04-17-2017 05:35 PM |
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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage
(Post 2154357)
Sounds like moving the goalposts to me...
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Sounds to me as if he is making things up as he goes along. |
| thaskalos |
04-17-2017 05:37 PM |
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Originally Posted by boxcar
(Post 2154364)
Call it what you will...but the 3 in 1 doesn't violate the law of non-contradiction. There is one divine essence in three distinct persons. God, then, is absolutely three and absolutely one. This is how Jesus could say, for example, "I and the Father are one." They are not the one and same person but they are one in their essence.
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Any idea of what Jesus meant...when he told his disciples that they were capable of more than even HE had accomplished? |
| thaskalos |
04-17-2017 05:41 PM |
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Originally Posted by boxcar
(Post 2154354)
Of course, it is. The bible everywhere teaches there is only ONE God;
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If there is only "one God"...then, who are these "other Gods" that our "jealous God" is warning us not to follow, in the Old Testament? |
| boxcar |
04-17-2017 07:26 PM |
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
(Post 2154371)
If there is only "one God"...then, who are these "other Gods" that our "jealous God" is warning us not to follow, in the Old Testament?
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The "gods" of people's vain and sinful imaginations. |
| boxcar |
04-17-2017 07:27 PM |
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
(Post 2154369)
Any idea of what Jesus meant...when he told his disciples that they were capable of more than even HE had accomplished?
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Maybe I'll come up with something tomorrow. |
| Actor |
04-17-2017 08:47 PM |
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Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.
* Bertrand Russell
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| thaskalos |
04-17-2017 08:50 PM |
That Bertrand Russell sure knew his potatoes.
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| boxcar |
04-18-2017 08:34 AM |
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
(Post 2154451)
That Bertrand Russell sure knew his potatoes.
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Yeah, he did. His specialty was cooking up rotten ones. |
| Greyfox |
04-18-2017 10:32 AM |
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Originally Posted by thaskalos
(Post 2154451)
That Bertrand Russell sure knew his potatoes.
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Bertrand Russell was a brilliant man, particularly in Mathematics when he was young.
His autobiography is a truly wonderful read wherein he confesses to various weaknesses and lusts in his flirtations with the opposite sex.
Having said that, I had a close friend years ago who was quite scholarly.
He found 14 errors in just one chapter of Russell's book The History of Philosophy. As that friend went on he found many more errors.
So while Russell was indeed very bright, there were some areas of his scholarship that were lacking.
Why didn't he stick to Mathematics?
As I recall he confessed to "burning out" in that area before he was 30. |
| Actor |
04-18-2017 01:49 PM |
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
(Post 2154557)
Having said that, I had a close friend years ago who was quite scholarly.
He found 14 errors in just one chapter of Russell's book The History of Philosophy.
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Were they really errors of just differences of opinion?
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
(Post 2154557)
Why didn't he stick to Mathematics?
As I recall he confessed to "burning out" in that area before he was 30.
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Quite common. Newton published Principles of Mathematics before he was 30. He went on to study alchemy and theology. Einstein published his Special Theory of Relativity at age 26 and the General Theory 10 years later. After that he contributed little to physics.
By the way, based on his Biblical studies Newton predicted the end of the world in 2060. |
| Greyfox |
04-18-2017 03:54 PM |
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Originally Posted by Actor
(Post 2154617)
Were they really errors of just differences of opinion?
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To be honest, I can't be certain as my friend is long dead.
I am of the opinion that he was referring to actual errors - dates, places, names, concepts etc. |
| Greyfox |
04-18-2017 03:59 PM |
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Originally Posted by Actor
(Post 2154617)
By the way, based on his Biblical studies Newton predicted the end of the world in 2060.
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Malthus said similar when he predicted "Standing Room Only" somewhere close to that date. |
| PaceAdvantage |
04-18-2017 04:08 PM |
A timely video...fast forward to 22:12
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