Penn St and NCAA
 

The two are in negotiations to review the sanctions against them. They are discussing reinstating the 111 losses to Joe Paterno. I think this is very appropriate. I would have had no problem with the death penalty but taking away wins in the past that was football related was just plain wrong. The kids who won those games did not deserve to have their official record torn apart. Not that they would have thought that way, but it needs to be reinstated.

Holier than thou Penn State and Joe Pa got what they deserved.

But that had nothing to do with the games on the field and certainly had nothing to do with the players who busted their tails to win those games.

Given that the NCAA has already backed away from the sanctions twice, with this potentially being the third back away, doesn't it strike you that maybe the NCAA overreached in the first place?? Thus making the sanctions undeserved?? I hope you realize that they are doing this in hopes of ending the Corman lawsuit, which is tantalizingly close to having the NCAA release internal emails which will show what a gangster organization they really are. And I haven't even mentioned the Paterno estate lawsuit, which could reap hundreds of millions from the NCAA coffers. You may laugh in your sleeve about PSU's discomfiture, but the Phoenix is rising my friend, and the stink may end up on Emmert's doorstep.

Lift the sanctions, for heaven's sake. Poor Penn State has suffered enough.

They benefited from covering up BIG TIME.
Huge +

The punishment was turned out to be extremely minimal considering the losses that proper conduct would have incurred (assuming that punishments were immediately handed out at that time, and assuming that fans weren't in denial, and that sponsorships were in fact lost/severed during the heyday).


It shows that a revenue vehicle like PSU College Football is more important than the rules, even when the broken rules and conduct were egregious.

If you take it for "face value" it makes the system look disgusting, and it makes the backers look like sad sheep that fall for anything that media broadcast tells them.

But if you look at it with an understanding of the system, it should be about what you expected. I already know that rules are not absolute, especially with corporate interests, governments, or banks. I shouldn't feel ill-will toward the public - they are simply humans. And the school and the sponsors are simply moving with the flow of the system. This isn't a charity (i mean an actual charity, or a 'figurative' charity, not the stuff we call charity).

Did PSU do wrong? Absolutely. The AD, police chief, and probably the president performed some coverup. My problem is with the Board of Trustees for the university and the NCAA/Emmert. They scapegoated an 80 year old coach who did exactly what the institutional rules required him to do. He reported the story from one of his assistant coaches to his boss and campus police about a former employee under the control of the AD. If any of us had done that, would we not consider the matter closed regarding our involvement? Where did Paterno perform a coverup? A single email found by Freeh without known subject or context where Paterno asks for more thought on next steps? Really?? We know that the AD and police guy did not do their jobs, and for that, PSU should be punished. Criminally and civilly!

Joe Paterno, after 56 years of exemplary service, was simply convenient flesh to throw at the wolves barking at the gates. PSU did not gain one ounce of competitive advantage by allowing a private citizen pervert to walk free. None. If you can explain why the NCAA took away victories from before the very first case of abuse showed up (well before PSU knew about it), I'd be happy to listen. That comes across as vindictive, and when the NCAA acknowledges someday that the entire meme against Paterno was false, you'll all be able see this as well. Every one of you should be asking to see the emails from the NCAA, because if the very risk of them seeing the light of day has the NCAA sputtering to give things back to PSU, what is in them must be very bad to Emmert and his gangster organization.

Give me a break. Joe and everybody else at Penn St knew what was going on and looked the other way for the "good" of Penn St football. The price was at least 10 years of sexually abused kids. Shame on anybody who thinks Penn St should get anything back. If Penn St had done the right thing and fired the low life Paterno 10 years earlier like a decent place, they might not have won all those games. But they did not. Ten years too late the truth came out. Now the best we can do is take away their ill gotten wins. The idea of them getting them back is offensive on every level. As for the players who played there during that time, they should be allowed to lie on their resume on where they went to school.

There is no doubt that Paterno knew long before anybody else. He made a choice. Now his legacy has to live with. He was the one who threw it all away. I hope he is having fun in Hell.

Glad to see you have all the answers despite your obvious lack of accurate information.

No doubt? Care to give ANY facts to support your position?

Couldn't say it any better myself, what went on there was a absolute disgrace

Is PA now a court of law?

Common sense is allowed here.

I don't believe that - I too would like to know what evidence exists that substantiates that Paterno knew of the abuse.

Joe Paterno is now again the wins leader. He had all the wins restored. Just announced.