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ReplayRandall 03-28-2017 10:35 PM

NYRA- The Best Circuit to Play, Everyday
 
Aqueduct main track opens back up Friday, March 31st thru April 23rd

Belmont Park opens Friday, April 28th - Closes Sunday, July 16th

Saratoga opens Friday, July 21st - Closes Monday, September 4th

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Opened this thread to anyone that would like to share their picks, advice and conversation for the NYRA circuit.....The best circuit to play, everyday.

thaskalos 03-28-2017 10:39 PM

Thanks for the NYRA date schedule. I didn't know where else to find it. :ThmbUp:

ReplayRandall 03-28-2017 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thaskalos (Post 2144764)
Thanks for the NYRA date schedule. I didn't know where else to find it. :ThmbUp:

Just trying to give you ample time to rebuild your bankroll, pal....After all, didn't you just tell me that your ADW balance is down to ?...I'm doing what I can to help you out.

Murph 03-28-2017 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by thaskalos (Post 2144764)
Thanks for the NYRA date schedule. I didn't know where else to find it. :ThmbUp:

http://www.equibase.com/live.cfm

All track code links show entry draw times, scratch time rule, time zone, standard race post times and link to the track profile. Equibase emailed this link to me in response to a question I had.

Belmont fall meeting begins right after Labor Day on Friday Sept. 8th, 2017. Pretty cool. I bookmarked it.

ReplayRandall 03-29-2017 12:37 AM

Entries and Past performances came out a few hours ago, will be back tomorrow with some possible live plays for Friday....

Secondbest 03-29-2017 08:02 AM

It's supposed to rain on friday

FakeNameChanged 03-29-2017 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Secondbest (Post 2144846)
It's supposed to rain on friday

Thank you Joe Btfsplk.

no breathalyzer 03-29-2017 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall (Post 2144763)
Aqueduct main track opens back up Friday, March 31st thru April 23rd

Belmont Park opens Friday, April 28th - Closes Sunday, July 16th

Saratoga opens Friday, July 21st - Closes Monday, September 4th

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Opened this thread to anyone that would like to share their picks, advice and conversation for the NYRA circuit.....The best circuit to play, everyday.

:jump::jump::jump::jump: now i can awake from my comma caused by that inner track meet

tophatmert 03-29-2017 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by no breathalyzer (Post 2144852)
:jump::jump::jump::jump: now i can awake from my comma caused by that inner track meet

Inner track meet gives me colon problems.

Inner Dirt 03-29-2017 09:44 AM

Am I the only one saddened by having to wait 8 more months till the inner track opens again? Isn't it strange how one man's trash is another man's treasure?

Cice 03-29-2017 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt (Post 2144861)
Am I the only one saddened by having to wait 8 more months till the inner track opens again? Isn't it strange how one man's trash is another man's treasure?


Change your name to Main Track, you will be all right :D

CincyHorseplayer 03-29-2017 10:29 AM

They going to start racing on the turf this week? That's when racing truly is back in NY!;)

Inner Dirt 03-29-2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer (Post 2144870)
They going to start racing on the turf this week? That's when racing truly is back in NY!;)

I challenge anyone in here to a contest to see who can be a worse turf handicapper than me. If a turf race is sandwiched in the middle of a pick 3 where I love the other two races to death I will go 3-4 deep and if I am lucky "catch" a 3-2 shot in the turf race. Are there any good reads on turf handicapping on USA tracks?

Exotic1 03-29-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt (Post 2144903)
I challenge anyone in here to a contest to see who can be a worse turf handicapper than me. If a turf race is sandwiched in the middle of a pick 3 where I love the other two races to death I will go 3-4 deep and if I am lucky "catch" a 3-2 shot in the turf race. Are there any good reads on turf handicapping on USA tracks?

You're running for second place only. I locked up the win slot on that one.

jay68802 03-29-2017 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt (Post 2144903)
I challenge anyone in here to a contest to see who can be a worse turf handicapper than me. If a turf race is sandwiched in the middle of a pick 3 where I love the other two races to death I will go 3-4 deep and if I am lucky "catch" a 3-2 shot in the turf race. Are there any good reads on turf handicapping on USA tracks?

I like Figure Handicapping By James Quinn

1st time lasix 03-29-2017 02:50 PM

As I have said before....I will return to look at the racing once the winter inner track at A is finished. Something about playing an outdoor game in the middle of a dreary winter that turns me off. Different strokes for different folks. I even own two NY breds but I do not race them up there in winter. I generally enjoy handicapping Belmont and Toga...simply stay way from NY the rest of the time. Look to Gulfstream, Tampa, Oaklawn in the East in the winter season. Keeneland should open soon. A big favorite of mine with large pools and low- takeouts. Good luck!

Dahoss9698 03-29-2017 04:01 PM

Aside from Saratoga the inner had been my 2nd favorite meet all year. Not after this year.

Very much looking forward to the main track and turf racing. Also can't wait to participate in this thread. Great idea Randall :ThmbUp:

ReplayRandall 03-29-2017 07:48 PM

Live plays for Friday, March 31st on AQU-Main:

AQU-R1- :2: ML 5-1 Snow Fighter

AQU-R2- :5: ML 10-1 Blarney Stones

AQU-R3- :3: ML 10-1 Bug Juice

AQU-R4- :5: ML 6-1 Brooklyn Gerty

AQU-R5- :3: ML 6-1 Abounding Spirit

AQU-R8- :2: ML 15-1 Brewing

EMD4ME 03-29-2017 08:54 PM

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Would you like cash or a check for that? And a bag too?

:pound::pound:E:pound:M:pound:D:pound:2¢:pound:

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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall (Post 2144792)
Just trying to give you ample time to rebuild your bankroll, pal....After all, didn't you just tell me that your ADW balance is down to ?...I'm doing what I can to help you out.

Went through my "stuff" and pulled 1st one that I could find so I could help you realize what a bank check from a racetrack looks like "sport" ;)

This a great idea for a thread :ThmbUp: Chee, I wonder where your innovative mind came up with it :kiss:;)



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EMD4ME 03-29-2017 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer (Post 2144870)
They going to start racing on the turf this week? That's when racing truly is back in NY!;)

April 8th Cincy!

https://www.equibase.com/premium/eqb...0331-20170409D

ReplayRandall 03-29-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EMD4ME (Post 2145159)
Went through my "stuff" and pulled 1st one that I could find so I could help you realize what a bank check from a racetrack looks like "sport" ;)

This a great idea for a thread :ThmbUp: Chee, I wonder where your innovative mind came up with it :kiss:;)



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You see, here's the deal....I deposit $20K in my non-US account and after a certain time I end up losing 3K. The rebates aren't what I'd thought they'd be, plus they're pressuring me to give them "sports action" to keep my rebates at the highest level. I eventually dump the account and they send me a check for $17K, same as you. Bottom-line, you never know where anybody truly is at when it comes to gambling, you get my drift? I'm sure you do.....Now back to the NYRA for Friday at AQU-Main.

EMD4ME 03-29-2017 09:41 PM

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You see, here's the deal....I deposit $20K in my non-US account and after a certain time I end up losing 3K. The rebates aren't what I'd thought they'd be, plus they're pressuring me to give them "sports action" to keep my rebates at the highest level. I eventually dump the account and they send me a check for $17K, same as you. Bottom-line, you never know where anybody truly is at when it comes to gambling, you get my drift? I'm sure you do.....Now back to the NYRA for Friday at AQU-Main.

Nice try RR. When are you going to realize who YOU'RE talking to? I never EVER lie.

THANK GOD FOR ADW TRANSACTION HISTORIES :pound::pound::pound::pound:

Lastly, before YOU or PA or CJ or ANYONE accuses me of derailing a thread (something that many people did to the BEST THREAD EVER 1000X), I was simply replying to YOUR post in THIS thread. (with the bank check and this post).

Enjoy your Friday everyone! By the way, you may want to hold off on your picks. Forecast calls for rain and you may want to readjust before off time...

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You may want to check the date of the bet (April 25th, 2015) and the date of the deposit (April 26th, 2015 ;))

thaskalos 03-29-2017 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EMD4ME (Post 2145159)
Went through my "stuff" and pulled 1st one that I could find so I could help you realize what a bank check from a racetrack looks like "sport" ;)

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Yes...but, how do we know that the check is YOURS? :)

EMD4ME 03-29-2017 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thaskalos (Post 2145180)
Yes...but, how do we know that the check is YOURS? :)

See POST 22, you and I were probably posting at the same time. I took $17,000 in a check and the rest in paper bags :pound::pound::pound::pound:

4 paper bags :pound::pound::pound::pound:

Unlike others (who tried to kill it every single day) in that other 35,000 a month view thread, I will leave the thread alone so it grow organically.

Dahoss9698 03-29-2017 10:03 PM

Still looking forward to this thread and talking horses with real horseplayers despite the very obvious attempts to derail it. Too bad. I'll have some thoughts for Friday tomorrow night.

NorCalGreg 03-29-2017 11:07 PM

Well that didn't take long......

Just wanted to mention...I have a thread going discussing maidens, handicapping firsters, what to look for, workout patterns....etc. Ya'all are welcome to contribute your maiden pick of the day (any track) as well.

I should warn ya...I've posted 3 maiden selections---all have won.

I'm pretty much top dog on the board when it comes to maiden 'capping :lol:

Okay I'm not--just lucky so far.

Please join in--NCG

ReplayRandall 03-29-2017 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg (Post 2145214)
Well that didn't take long......

Just wanted to mention...I have a thread going discussing maidens, handicapping firsters, what to look for, workout patterns....etc. Ya'all are welcome to contribute your maiden pick of the day (any track) as well.

I should warn ya...I've posted 3 maiden selections---all have won.

I'm pretty much top dog on the board when it comes to maiden 'capping :lol:

Okay I'm not--just lucky so far.

Please join in--NCG

Since you're here on this thread Greg, what's your opinion about this piece I gave out for Friday?

AQU-R5- :3: ML 6-1 Abounding Spirit

johnhannibalsmith 03-29-2017 11:29 PM

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Big deal we've all had our scores.

Mulerider 03-29-2017 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalGreg (Post 2145214)
Well that didn't take long......

...I have a thread going discussing maidens, handicapping firsters, what to look for, workout patterns....etc.

I should warn ya...I've posted 3 maiden selections---all have won...Please join in--NCG

Do I get no credit at all for the two firsters I redboarded on your thread? And after all that work...:)

PaceAdvantage 03-29-2017 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss9698 (Post 2145192)
Still looking forward to this thread and talking horses with real horseplayers despite the very obvious attempts to derail it. Too bad. I'll have some thoughts for Friday tomorrow night.

I agree. I'm looking forward to it too.

Once the racing starts, I implore cj to immediately delete any and all needless, senseless, ego-stroking pissing contest posts like the posting of checks and ADW screenshots...nobody gives a ****.

And I promise to do the same. Oh, and assess penalty points on any said deleted posts.

Thanks.

cj 03-29-2017 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2145223)
I agree. I'm looking forward to it too.

Once the racing starts, I implore cj to immediately delete any and all needless, senseless, ego-stroking pissing contest posts like the posting of checks and ADW screenshots...nobody gives a ****.

And I promise to do the same. Oh, and assess penalty points on any said deleted posts.

Thanks.

Got it. I'll finally get back home tomorrow night. I may not be able to participate Friday Handicapping wise but will soon enough.

NorCalGreg 03-30-2017 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall (Post 2145218)
Since you're here on this thread Greg, what's your opinion about this piece I gave out for Friday?

AQU-R5- :3: ML 6-1 Abounding Spirit

Randall....you really know how to rub it in---THAT HORSE was gonna win me the contest ....until he scratched :mad:

Next year I'm taking no prisoners ...enjoy your stay at the top, my friend :lol:

NorCalGreg 03-30-2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulerider (Post 2145221)
Do I get no credit at all for the two firsters I redboarded on your thread? And after all that work...:)

You get credit for participating lol.

Come on now, Mule...lets see a maiden pick or two up there.

You've already got the makings of a good method :ThmbUp:

There may be something at Santa Anita we can pick out of the coal mine.

CincyHorseplayer 03-30-2017 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by EMD4ME (Post 2145171)

The year is definitely off and running when that happens and Keeneland opens! Thanks.

CincyHorseplayer 03-30-2017 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt (Post 2144903)
I challenge anyone in here to a contest to see who can be a worse turf handicapper than me. If a turf race is sandwiched in the middle of a pick 3 where I love the other two races to death I will go 3-4 deep and if I am lucky "catch" a 3-2 shot in the turf race. Are there any good reads on turf handicapping on USA tracks?

Like j68802 said Quinn has some good turf thoughts in Figure Handicapping. But that is only a starting point. I focused in on that book and Mike Helm's Pedigree Handicapping in the winter of 12-13. I picked up tidbits about turf from other handicapping books. A lot of jockey trainer stuff out there. Dick Mitchell's A Winning turf strategy was a help and Bill Heller's 2 turf books. But most of the progress was slowly testing things on my own and doing pedigree research. Applying sabermetric concepts to pace figures to come up with new ratings. Tracing family bloodlines to 2 turfy sire lines on both sides of the pedigree can be better than merely up front sire/damsires themselves, especially at smaller tracks. I can send you some basic info I have scanned into my documents if you'd like. Just PM me. It took me about 3 painstaking years to get a really comprehensive turf approach. I don't mind sharing some things.

EMD4ME 03-30-2017 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2145223)
I agree. I'm looking forward to it too.

Once the racing starts, I implore cj to immediately delete any and all needless, senseless, ego-stroking pissing contest posts like the posting of checks and ADW screenshots...nobody gives a ****.

And I promise to do the same. Oh, and assess penalty points on any said deleted posts.

Thanks.

Well since the racing hasn't started, I'll reply to your thoughtful post with a thoughtful response:

1) you know EXACTLY why I posted the check and the ADW stats. RR insinuated that I never made a bank check withdrawal on track. Once that was proven, he insinuated it was for monies deposited. Hence, the post of the relatively cold Pick 6 hit the day before.

With that said....

Thank you very much for your fair and equal treatment of all posters in all threads... you're a gem :) of a leader.

Don't worry. I'm not like all of you guys (90% of the people who posted in this thread). I won't do what they did (try and derail a thread).

Best of luck at the new meet everyone :ThmbUp:

castaway01 03-30-2017 08:45 AM


While we're waiting for the interesting racing to start, Andy and the Mig did some fun looks back at classic Wood Memorials, including Bold Forbes in 1976 and Gulch just catching Gone West in 1987.


Worth taking a few minutes for the trip down memory lane.

NorCalGreg 03-30-2017 09:47 AM

Nice--enjoyed it, thanks. I couldn't get my mind off that car on the track in the Bold Forbes race....anyone see that? It was a civilian sedan just cruising down the track while the race was on and horses going by. Odd.

HuggingTheRail 03-30-2017 01:11 PM

I usually gravitate to maiden claimers, with a vulnerable or lukewarm favourite, so Friday's last race has caught my eye - and with a field of 10!! :jump:

Quick notes

1 - toss
2 - FTS
3 - ML Favourite - not really impressed by his last start...
4 - FTS
5 - plodder, possible for bottom of verticals
6 - beaten 2x favourite, rider change, wouldn't be surprised if this one goes off as post time fav. Could win, but expect this one to be an underlay. Wouldn't be suprised if this one becomes a double digit race maiden
7 - taking the drop from 2 non-descript MSW starts, though speed figs put him in the hunt. A threat, and maybe worth a shot if he goes off at his 5-1 ML
8 - FTS
9 - Decent race in debut. Off two months, took 4 weeks to work after debut, then off another 3 weeks before next work. A threat, but has question marks
10 - dropping slightly in price off a fair debut


None of the horses with previous starts jump off the page. If the 8 looks good in the paddock and on post parade, he's my pick

8 w 7,9,10

whodoyoulike 03-30-2017 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HuggingTheRail (Post 2145343)
I usually gravitate to maiden claimers, with a vulnerable or lukewarm favourite, ...

Quick notes

1 - toss
2 - FTS
3 - ML Favourite - not really impressed by his last start...
4 - FTS
5 - plodder, possible for bottom of verticals
6 - beaten 2x favourite, rider change, wouldn't be surprised if this one goes off as post time fav. Could win, but expect this one to be an underlay. Wouldn't be suprised if this one becomes a double digit race maiden
7 - taking the drop from 2 non-descript MSW starts, though speed figs put him in the hunt. A threat, and maybe worth a shot if he goes off at his 5-1 ML
8 - FTS
9 - Decent race in debut. Off two months, took 4 weeks to work after debut, then off another 3 weeks before next work. A threat, but has question marks
10 - dropping slightly in price off a fair debut


None of the horses with previous starts jump off the page. If the 8 looks good in the paddock and on post parade, he's my pick

8 w 7,9,10


Why do you gravitate to MC?

And, then you select or will favor a FTS, I just don't get it.


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