Mahoning Valley bad beat yesterday
 

Started a nice pick 3 yesterday singling a 15-1 shot in race 2. In the second leg (race 3) I had four pieces two of which were gate scratches. Post 1 & 7 scratched minutes apart although having nothing to do with each other. UNUSUALLY MHV does not give a consolation in the pick 3 rather assigns it to the post Time favorite. Well now I have two horses that go off at cofavorites the 2 and 5 horse. Naturally the 3 horse wins and I’m left with nothing. The 50 cent pick three paid 700.00 with a 15-1, 3-1. and even money. All of the money from the two gate scratches went to the post time fav which lost thus inflating the payoff. Why don’t they have a consolation ? Sour grapes.

dont know what to tell you,tough beat.we are in the 21st century and racing uses 100 year old technology to move millions of dollars.

I play pick 3's and 4's . I was victim to this recently as well but it is nothing new for me. Last week at Remington my single in the first leg hit and I was 5x5x6 in the final three legs . In 2nd leg I had two late scratches and now was x3 on the favorite who consequently ran up the track and my other two finished 2nd and 4th . I am not so much mad that I got stuck with favorite as I am it changed the whole complexity of the race hence lowering my chances of advancing .

There must be a better way to handle gate scratches ?

Most of the industry assigns the post time favorite on pick 4,5 and 6’s when the late scratches occur. Mahoning to my knowledge is the only track to not have a pick 3 consolation. I figured out based on my tickets yesterday I would have ended up with at least 100.00 in consolations. That’s what sucks.

Love betting this place. One week focused there-half my winter paid for. As I've posted before, this is the easiest track in America to beat. Just handicap, stay alert, and pounce when the public makes a glaring error. It won't take long.


I am locked in now and much enjoy going back to my roots as a player. It feels soooo liberating to not see the prices on my selections drop.

On a side note, the surface has some intrinsic quirks that can give astute handicappers an edge. Subtle things, but worth the time needed to process them.

Would like to hear feedback on your experiences there, fellow board members.

Be well, guys. And happy thanksgiving.

hope everyone is ok at the mountain

Thank you, sir.

Yeah i consider myself a pretty good handicapper at Mahoning but when you have multiple 70-1 shots win on the same card things get a bit dicey.

At least they weren't never 4 geldings running as mdn fillies ( at 50-1 and winning by 10) LOL. The legacy of that epic moment is the identifier REchecking each winner's tat-AFTER the race. Watch the guy in the ballcap holding the clipboard. He has to give stews a thumbs up before they can post official sign. That's Danny Hamilton. I trained him. One of the stews he signals is Lori Dinoto. I trained her, too. Both excellent officials.

BTW..Did you catch my anecdote abt your namesake when Jason Beem interviewed me for his podcast a few weeks ago?? I had never told it before in public.

A fantastic card is slated at MVRC on Monday Nov. 19. 10 Races with an average of almost 11 horses entered to run in each race. The total purses for the day will be close to a half million dollars. The Hollywood Gaming Mahoning Distaff has a 75K purse and The Steel Valley Sprint's purse is $250K. Joe Bravo, Tyler Gaffalione, Channing Hill, Eurico Da Silva, Brian Hernandez, and Jose Lezcano are all named to ride that day.


After a speed favoring bias for the meet's 1st 2 weeks ended, a day of illogical longshots lit up the totes. Since then, the track has played favorably to all. Horses sitting just off the pace seemed to have a slight advantage the last 2 days. That all could change of course. Freezing rain, followed by a cold steady rain, followed by about 2 inches of snow will make Saturday's card very interesting. It should be dry and fast by Monday. SO SEND IT IN!


RR

What the heck is an intrinsic quirk? Could you give an example of one??

I honestly don’t know who you are but would love to listen in on some horse racing podcasts . What are the better ones around? Can you provide a link to yours ? Also since I see you are connected to Mountaineer maybe you can answer me a question. The Mountaineer commentators ( I won’t mention names because I don’t want to offend ) seem to have been doing that gig for quite some time. Would it be unfair of me to say they are the most boring and monotone commentators ever in horse racing? I love Mountaineer horse racing but these two honestly bring zero excitement to the game. Tampa Bay had a similar issue with Margo for years and years then they replaced her with “ Shades”. It just cracks me up. Some of these tracks are stuck in the 70’s and 80’s and have a different audience since all those fans have been dying off.

Mark and Nancy do a great job providing insight regarding trainers, owners, shippers and the inner workings of the Mountaineer backstretch. Mark has incredible recall and seems to remember every horses past performance.

"I honestly don't know who you are..."

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"they are the most boring and monotone commentators ever in horse racing"

Troll warning, where is my siren?:ThmbDown: