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Lemon Drop Husker 12-15-2017 07:55 PM

Pegasus Cup
 
I haven't been the biggest fan of this race, as it never really made sense to me from a monetary standpoint.

Either way, this year's edition may well set up to be a really damn good race.

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...ontenders_123#

Likely contenders:

Gun Runner
Collected
West Coast
Gunnevera
Forever Unbridled
Seeking the Soul
Sharp Azteca
Toast of New York
War Story

Other possibles being Mind Your Biscuits and Stellar Wind

ronsmac 12-15-2017 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker (Post 2251115)
I haven't been the biggest fan of this race, as it never really made sense to me from a monetary standpoint.

Either way, this year's edition may well set up to be a really damn good race.

https://www.horseracingnation.com/ne...ontenders_123#

Likely contenders:

Gun Runner
Collected
West Coast
Gunnevera
Forever Unbridled
Seeking the Soul
Sharp Azteca
Toast of New York
War Story

Other possibles being Mind Your Biscuits and Stellar Wind

You don't like stakes races with 12 horse fields?

dilanesp 12-15-2017 09:10 PM

I am looking forward to seeing West Coast at 4. He was improving with every start at 3.

Lemon Drop Husker 12-15-2017 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dilanesp (Post 2251130)
I am looking forward to seeing West Coast at 4. He was improving with every start at 3.

Am as well. Could be a monster. :coffee:

Lemon Drop Husker 12-15-2017 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ronsmac (Post 2251122)
You don't like stakes races with 12 horse fields?

Yeah. Well..

I just didn't see it fitting in the calendar for top end horses that aren't in the breeding shed.

Now?

It makes sense.

Why not gear a great horse around a BC/Pegasus/World Cup payout extravaganza?

The new age older horse Triple Crown?

Redboard 12-15-2017 10:00 PM

Pegasus? Bring it on. Nothing else happening. I'll be watching. The only thing I'd like to see is Arrogate get another chance. I know Baffert said He's not the same horse and He's not going to run him again, but , I can't help thinking that We'll never know if it was the Delmar track. Maybe he didn't like those condos on the hill, I don't. The horse is not injured and it wouldn't devalue his stud value one penny. He is the defending champ and a horse people want to see.
And you could be damm sure he'd get some interest at the window, hey, I'd take him at 25-1.

Lemon Drop Husker 12-15-2017 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redboard (Post 2251140)
Pegasus? Bring it on. Nothing else happening. I'll be watching. The only thing I'd like to see is Arrogate get another chance. I know Baffert said He's not the same horse and He's not going to run him again, but , I can't help thinking that We'll never know if it was the Delmar track. Maybe he didn't like those condos on the hill, I don't. The horse is not injured and it wouldn't devalue his stud value one penny. He is the defending champ and a horse people want to see.
And you could be damm sure he'd get some interest at the window, hey, I'd take him at 25-1.

Don't do that to me.

I want to see Arrogate run again.

dilanesp 12-15-2017 11:33 PM

If Arrogate ran, I would bet everything in my pockets against him.

Lemon Drop Husker 12-16-2017 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dilanesp (Post 2251164)
If Arrogate ran, I would bet everything in my pockets against him.

Even the keys to your Jaguar?

onefast99 12-16-2017 07:46 AM

The Pegasus was designed to be a competitive race just like every other stakes race, but with the largest payout of any race in the world. Last year Arrogate was the top horse in the nation by far, California Chrome was on the return and the match race was on. The rest of the field was running for third and forth monies, Frank got the place with SG, after CC didn't take to the track. The media hype on CC vs Arrogate kept everyone glued to their TV that day. The t shirts and assorted fan gear at GP sold out the day of the race, the marketing was top notch!
Those who spent the 1 million for a starting spot or more have no remorse as it is evident they have that kind of money to spend.
This year the race will be a lot more competitive, just like how Frank planned it. The buzz is in the air at GP and throughout the racing world.

cj 12-16-2017 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onefast99 (Post 2251204)
The Pegasus was designed to be a competitive race just like every other stakes race, but with the largest payout of any race in the world. Last year Arrogate was the top horse in the nation by far, California Chrome was on the return and the match race was on. The rest of the field was running for third and forth monies, Frank got the place with SG, after CC didn't take to the track. The media hype on CC vs Arrogate kept everyone glued to their TV that day. The t shirts and assorted fan gear at GP sold out the day of the race, the marketing was top notch!
Those who spent the 1 million for a starting spot or more have no remorse as it is evident they have that kind of money to spend.
This year the race will be a lot more competitive, just like how Frank planned it. The buzz is in the air at GP and throughout the racing world.

Side note, I don't think the track had anything to do with California Chrome's race that day. You sound like a horseman! :)

dilanesp 12-16-2017 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2251255)
Side note, I don't think the track had anything to do with California Chrome's race that day. You sound like a horseman! :)

Agreed. CC shot his wad in the BC Classic.

cj 12-16-2017 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dilanesp (Post 2251300)
Agreed. CC shot his wad in the BC Classic.

He also had a pretty brutal trip in the Pegasus if memory serves.

onefast99 12-16-2017 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj (Post 2251255)
Side note, I don't think the track had anything to do with California Chrome's race that day. You sound like a horseman! :)

Per Sherman after the race he didn't cool out well, looked like fluid on the right knee. At the half mile marker CC folded, if it was the track or the weight he carried no one will ever know.
Arrogate wasn't getting beat that day.

letswastemoney 12-16-2017 09:10 PM

California Chrome's post position was brutal. He didn't clear on the first turn, and the pace wasn't slow, so it was too difficult to recover.


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