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Grits 01-11-2017 03:22 PM

Secretary of State hearing--Rex Tillerson
 
Have watched today, and still watching on CNN--with break for Trump's speech. I can easily see how this man rose to the top as CEO of Exxon Mobil having been with the corporation since 1975. He is brilliant. And most importantly, he is totally, completely unflappable as he's had decades of practice in the art of negotiation all over the world. Too, his demeanor is "less is more" with responses that are direct, and not to be misunderstood or misdirected. He politely made child's play out of Marco Rubio. Other Senators have seemed in awe of his manner under pressure.

I'm glad I have stock in Exxon Mobil. :lol:

I'm gonna tell you gentlemen like a friend, this is one strong, slow talking, easy going, sharp minded Texan. Wow. ;)

reckless 01-11-2017 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grits
Have watched today, and still watching on CNN--with break for Trump's speech. I can easily see how this man rose to the top as CEO of Exxon Mobil having been with the corporation since 1975. He is brilliant. And most importantly, he is totally, completely unflappable as he's had decades of practice in the art of negotiation all over the world. Too, his demeanor is "less is more" with responses that are direct, and not to be misunderstood or misdirected. He politely made child's play out of Marco Rubio. Other Senators have seemed in awe of his manner under pressure.

I'm glad I have stock in Exxon Mobil. :lol:

I'm gonna tell you gentlemen like a friend, this is one strong, slow talking, easy going, sharp minded Texan. Wow. ;)

Glad you started this thread, Grits. I figured that many of the PA OT-General posters would use the hearing to put the standard knock on him so I am glad to know he has at least two supporters here. :)

Also glad that you own stock in XOM too Grits. Rex Tillerson added over $200 billion in profits since he became the CEO in the early 2000s.

Please try to read this recent article out of Dallas about a side of Tillerson most of us do not know. A side that I am sure CNN will never mention.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/co...week-jury-duty

boxcar 01-11-2017 03:56 PM

Trump is a die-hard, successful businessman at heart. As such, I'm pretty confident that all his nominations are success-based nominees. There will be no affirmative action types in this administration. And if by chance, some nominee doesn't perform up to Trump's expectations, Trump will fire him -- literally! And that's the way it should be because this is the way the real world works.

JustRalph 01-11-2017 05:49 PM

The adults are back

FantasticDan 01-11-2017 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRalph
The adults are back

Trump's an adult? Do you mean, like, X-rated? :blush: :D

Greyfox 01-11-2017 05:56 PM

Tillerson is an excellent choice, hopefully Rubio doesn't break ranks here.

JustRalph 01-11-2017 06:03 PM

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Hmmm.....

ebcorde 01-11-2017 06:25 PM

Tillerson is the only guy I understand
 
yeah, He knows how to do whatever Trump wants. Problem is if its something bad, what will he do then? Eagle Scout or Oil yes man.

You have to answer CNN questions. You can't let Spicer/Conway on CNN then refuse Jim Acosta. CNN been waiting 6 months to ask the clown a question.

Media needs to grow balls.

trump approval rating below 40%

ebcorde 01-11-2017 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Trump's an adult? Do you mean, like, X-rated? :blush: :D


you know Putin;s buddies supplied him with hot babes, Melania types but 20 years younger over there?????!!!!!!! They got tape of the Dufus sex acts and Putin watches for fun and LOL.
man, they clown on him. They are Laughing at us

Trump kinda admitted it,...!!!!!??? he talked about little cameras!!??? hmmm?
The guy was nabbed by Billy Bush, so you know Putin got him. Its a real life Homeland.

germaphobe? with one exception Hot chicks a-okay.

ElKabong 01-11-2017 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grits
Have watched today, and still watching on CNN--with break for Trump's speech. I can easily see how this man rose to the top as CEO of Exxon Mobil having been with the corporation since 1975. He is brilliant. And most importantly, he is totally, completely unflappable as he's had decades of practice in the art of negotiation all over the world. Too, his demeanor is "less is more" with responses that are direct, and not to be misunderstood or misdirected. He politely made child's play out of Marco Rubio. Other Senators have seemed in awe of his manner under pressure.

I'm glad I have stock in Exxon Mobil. :lol:

I'm gonna tell you gentlemen like a friend, this is one strong, slow talking, easy going, sharp minded Texan. Wow. ;)

You're a sharp lady, Grits.

As I've posted before, I went to high school with his wife. Hands down she's the nicest human being I've ever known or come across.

Someone as nice as Renda, she wouldn't marry someone without scruples. Her background wouldn't allow it. And I can attest she wouldn't have married for money either. First, she was an intelligent gal who did well for herself in the business world. Second, she was "raised right". Money and status never impressed her. She didnt hang with any cliques, had friendships that crossed every boundary on a Very diverse campus. She was one of a kind.

Greyfox 01-11-2017 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ebcorde
you know Putin;s buddies supplied him with hot babes, Melania types but 20 years younger over there?????!!!!!!!

Unless you know that for a fact, and you don't, that is a horrible accusation to make about anyone! :ThmbDown:

Grits 01-11-2017 08:01 PM

Quote:

You're a sharp lady, Grits.

As I've posted before, I went to high school with his wife. Hands down she's the nicest human being I've ever known or come across.

Someone as nice as Renda, she wouldn't marry someone without scruples. Her background wouldn't allow it. And I can attest she wouldn't have married for money either. First, she was an intelligent gal who did well for herself in the business world. Second, she was "raised right". Money and status never impressed her. She didnt hang with any cliques, had friendships that crossed every boundary on a Very diverse campus. She was one of a kind.
How cool is that, ElKa!! Really cool that you went to school with Renda. We have something in common....she and myself. In my entire lifetime, I've never fit in with cliques. I've never been surrounded by other women, their clubs, their card games, etc. It's been solitary at times, but I'm real ok with that. I have my son, that's all I need. I'm strong that way. ;)

Quote:

Glad you started this thread, Grits. I figured that many of the PA OT-General posters would use the hearing to put the standard knock on him so I am glad to know he has at least two supporters here. :)

Also glad that you own stock in XOM too Grits. Rex Tillerson added over $200 billion in profits since he became the CEO in the early 2000s.

Please try to read this recent article out of Dallas about a side of Tillerson most of us do not know. A side that I am sure CNN will never mention.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/c...-week-jury-duty


Reckless, I've not yet, but I'll be sure to read this! Thanks for posting it.

UPDATE....Later, after I posted, Rubio came back again. He wanted Tillerson to admit or state, outright, that Putin, the Philippines leader, and others were guilty of war crimes. Calling them, war criminals. Tillerson didn't want to say this at this point in time as he's not had access to classified materials yet and to do this has legal implications. Too, for heaven sake, the man is not yet confirmed. Tillerson didn't turn a hair; told him exactly why he wouldn't call them war criminals. But, it wasn't enough for Rubio. Minutes after the exchange, Rubio appears in the hallway with his own press conference and goes on and on, refusing to state he will confirm him. It smacks of payback to Trump. .... Rubio is enchanted with his own mediocre importance. .... In closing, I'll note, CNN is all over it. Tillerson may have a way to go. But, I hope not. He's smarter than Trump and that was the goal for Trump to surround himself with the brightest. I'll give Trump credit, he did well today, until CNN's reporter pissed him off. :lol: Here's some Twitter comments I read, gentlemen.

https://twitter.com/i/moments/819220865208360960

letswastemoney 01-11-2017 08:23 PM

I like Marco Rubio. He endorsed Donald Trump after the primaries were over and didn't waver, even after the pussy grabbing video.

I think Rubio sincerely believes this is a questionable choice. We'll see.

chadk66 01-11-2017 08:33 PM

he will be cleared by congress quite easily. how awesome it must be following Clinton and Kerry into that office. you could only look like the greatest prospect in the world next to those two.

Grits 01-11-2017 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
I like Marco Rubio. He endorsed Donald Trump after the primaries were over and didn't waver, even after the pussy grabbing video.

I think Rubio sincerely believes this is a questionable choice. We'll see.

I wrote that a reporter pissed Trump off. The word's used here. You wrote p****, this word's not used here. It's common. From now on, how about you find another word when you're speaking of women.

Grits 01-11-2017 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chadk66
he will be cleared by congress quite easily. how awesome it must be following Clinton and Kerry into that office. you could only look like the greatest prospect in the world next to those two.

He's cleared by the committee. These appointments very, very rarely get held up, going to Congress.

CincyHorseplayer 01-11-2017 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grits
Have watched today, and still watching on CNN--with break for Trump's speech. I can easily see how this man rose to the top as CEO of Exxon Mobil having been with the corporation since 1975. He is brilliant. And most importantly, he is totally, completely unflappable as he's had decades of practice in the art of negotiation all over the world. Too, his demeanor is "less is more" with responses that are direct, and not to be misunderstood or misdirected. He politely made child's play out of Marco Rubio. Other Senators have seemed in awe of his manner under pressure.

I'm glad I have stock in Exxon Mobil. :lol:

I'm gonna tell you gentlemen like a friend, this is one strong, slow talking, easy going, sharp minded Texan. Wow. ;)

Have watched a few hours worth the last 2 days and both men have been solid. I wanted to listen to the interactions for myself after hearing and reading so much negative left fear mongering. No doubt they have the right stuff.

fast4522 01-12-2017 12:54 AM

Some of what is seen in these conformations are nothing more than the left making noise, but truthfully that noise will be steamrolled. Soon those who think they have the stones to go against Trump the President will feel the wrath for doing so. Sure Cory Booker and little Marco got some microphone today, and sure they will both be around for a while but sure as shooting they will be served some special sauce soon. No I am not saying the next time they eat Chinese food, but they will not enjoy it.

NJ Stinks 01-12-2017 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast4522
Some of what is seen in these conformations are nothing more than the left making noise, but truthfully that noise will be steamrolled. Soon those who think they have the stones to go against Trump the President will feel the wrath for doing so. Sure Cory Booker and little Marco got some microphone today, and sure they will both be around for a while but sure as shooting they will be served some special sauce soon. No I am not saying the next time they eat Chinese food, but they will not enjoy it.

What the hell does the above mean?

NJ Stinks 01-12-2017 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grits
Have watched today, and still watching on CNN--with break for Trump's speech. I can easily see how this man rose to the top as CEO of Exxon Mobil having been with the corporation since 1975. He is brilliant. And most importantly, he is totally, completely unflappable as he's had decades of practice in the art of negotiation all over the world. Too, his demeanor is "less is more" with responses that are direct, and not to be misunderstood or misdirected. He politely made child's play out of Marco Rubio. Other Senators have seemed in awe of his manner under pressure.

I'm glad I have stock in Exxon Mobil. :lol:

I'm gonna tell you gentlemen like a friend, this is one strong, slow talking, easy going, sharp minded Texan. Wow. ;)

I find the following disqualifying even if you don't, Grits:
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It was early in the nine-hour hearing when Tillerson said he might recommend revoking President Obama’s actions punishing Russia for its cyberattack during the American election, which Tillerson acknowledged was probably approved by Putin.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) followed that with a blunt question: “Is Vladimir Putin a war criminal?”

“I would not use that term,” the Russian Order of Friendship laureate replied.

Rubio offered to “help” Tillerson reach that conclusion, describing his targeting of schools and markets in Syria that have killed thousands of civilians, and his earlier attacks on Chechnya, where he killed 300,000 civilians using cluster munitions and bombs that kill by asphyxiation. “You are still not prepared to say that Vladimir Putin and his military . . . have conducted war crimes?”

“I would want to have much more information before reaching a conclusion,” the nominee replied.

Rubio went on to ask about the broadly held view that Putin has approved the killing of “countless” opponents, dissidents and journalists.

“I do not have sufficient information to make that claim,” Tillerson replied.

“Do you think that was coincidental?” Rubio pressed.

Tillerson said “these things happen” to “people who speak up for freedom,” but he would need to know more.

Rubio was angry. “None of this is classified, Mr. Tillerson,” he said. “These people are dead.”


link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.43d891d1e69a
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This may be "one strong, slow talking, easy going, sharp minded Texan" but I prefer somebody who I'm confident is negotiating in our behalf. Must be thousands of other candidates with less questionable motives who want the job. No?

JustRalph 01-12-2017 01:56 AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/_0Hour1__...97628542746624

Watch Washington Post reporter take surrepticeous photos of Tillerson's notes, while he is away on break

NJ Stinks 01-12-2017 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRalph
https://mobile.twitter.com/_0Hour1__...97628542746624

Watch Washington Post reporter take surrepticeous photos of Tillerson's notes, while he is away on break

Let's see if I've got this straight. Trump fans want the press to hack DNC computers (so the Russians don't have to!) to find and disclose all the bad stuff. But you don't want the press to take pictures of a Trump guy whose notes are sitting in the open on a table - just in case there is something bad to be found and disclose in those notes.

Got it. :rolleyes:

CincyHorseplayer 01-12-2017 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
I find the following disqualifying even if you don't, Grits:
__________________________________

It was early in the nine-hour hearing when Tillerson said he might recommend revoking President Obama’s actions punishing Russia for its cyberattack during the American election, which Tillerson acknowledged was probably approved by Putin.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) followed that with a blunt question: “Is Vladimir Putin a war criminal?”

“I would not use that term,” the Russian Order of Friendship laureate replied.

Rubio offered to “help” Tillerson reach that conclusion, describing his targeting of schools and markets in Syria that have killed thousands of civilians, and his earlier attacks on Chechnya, where he killed 300,000 civilians using cluster munitions and bombs that kill by asphyxiation. “You are still not prepared to say that Vladimir Putin and his military . . . have conducted war crimes?”

“I would want to have much more information before reaching a conclusion,” the nominee replied.

Rubio went on to ask about the broadly held view that Putin has approved the killing of “countless” opponents, dissidents and journalists.

“I do not have sufficient information to make that claim,” Tillerson replied.

“Do you think that was coincidental?” Rubio pressed.

Tillerson said “these things happen” to “people who speak up for freedom,” but he would need to know more.

Rubio was angry. “None of this is classified, Mr. Tillerson,” he said. “These people are dead.”


link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.43d891d1e69a
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This may be "one strong, slow talking, easy going, sharp minded Texan" but I prefer somebody who I'm confident is negotiating in our behalf. Must be thousands of other candidates with less questionable motives who want the job. No?

He's not going to sit there with the information we all read in the newspaper and put out a decisive war plan after condemning Putin on the spot without knowing all there is to know. What is it you want? Trump and Co. get accused of having an unfit disposition and itchy trigger finger and everybody is scared but the opposition is demanding absolute action on Russia mainly because of losing an election because nothing was bandied about much when this all went down. That's crap!

Tom 01-12-2017 07:35 AM

Oh, you fell that Rubio nonsense, huh? :lol:

Greyfox 01-12-2017 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
I find the following disqualifying even if you don't, Grits:
__________________________________

[I]It was early in the nine-hour hearing when Tillerson said he might recommend revoking President Obama’s actions punishing Russia for its cyberattack during the American election, which Tillerson acknowledged was probably approved by Putin.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) followed that with a blunt question: “Is Vladimir Putin a war criminal?”

“I would not use that term,” the Russian Order of Friendship laureate replied.

Rubio and you NJStinks are wrong.
In an earlier century you would have hung rustlers without a trial.
Tillerson's response was what should qualify him as Secretary of State and Rubio's is one that should disqualify him from ever being President.
For Putin to be declared a war criminal, a fair trial at The Hague would have to be held.
For Rubio to want Tillerson to declare Putin a "war criminal" would be unjust and idiotic.

boxcar 01-12-2017 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
I find the following disqualifying even if you don't, Grits:
__________________________________

It was early in the nine-hour hearing when Tillerson said he might recommend revoking President Obama’s actions punishing Russia for its cyberattack during the American election, which Tillerson acknowledged was probably approved by Putin.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) followed that with a blunt question: “Is Vladimir Putin a war criminal?”

“I would not use that term,” the Russian Order of Friendship laureate replied.

Rubio offered to “help” Tillerson reach that conclusion, describing his targeting of schools and markets in Syria that have killed thousands of civilians, and his earlier attacks on Chechnya, where he killed 300,000 civilians using cluster munitions and bombs that kill by asphyxiation. “You are still not prepared to say that Vladimir Putin and his military . . . have conducted war crimes?”

“I would want to have much more information before reaching a conclusion,” the nominee replied.

Rubio went on to ask about the broadly held view that Putin has approved the killing of “countless” opponents, dissidents and journalists.

“I do not have sufficient information to make that claim,” Tillerson replied.

“Do you think that was coincidental?” Rubio pressed.

Tillerson said “these things happen” to “people who speak up for freedom,” but he would need to know more.

Rubio was angry. “None of this is classified, Mr. Tillerson,” he said. “These people are dead.”


link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.43d891d1e69a
______________________________

This may be "one strong, slow talking, easy going, sharp minded Texan" but I prefer somebody who I'm confident is negotiating in our behalf. Must be thousands of other candidates with less questionable motives who want the job. No?

Good Morning, Mr. Joiesy:

I have a few questions for you about Putin's alleged war crimes:

1. Has Obama ever condemned Putin as a war criminal?
2. Has Nurse Wratchet (Hillary) ever condemned Putin as a war criminal?
3. Has any leading Democrat ever condemned Putin as a war criminal?

Finally, an observation about the Washington Post reporter who "hacked" Tillerson's notes: You don't find it a wee bit hypocritical that the MM who has been running with the Russian hack story and condemning it has engaged in the very activity that it has been condemning? And look at yourself for that matter! You, too, have condemned the alleged Russian hacks but now run to the defense of the hypocritical reporter? Truly, you and the reporter give affirmation to what most of us have known about leftists -- that all is fair in war and love -- all is fair in the game of politics -- any end justifies the means.

davew 01-12-2017 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxcar
Good Morning, Mr. Joiesy:

I have a few questions for you about Putin's alleged war crimes:

1. Has Obama ever condemned Putin as a war criminal?
2. Has Nurse Wratchet (Hillary) ever condemned Putin as a war criminal?
3. Has any leading Democrat ever condemned Putin as a war criminal?

.


Don't you wonder if they have done the same thing being alleged about Putin? just with the opposition forces...

boxcar 01-12-2017 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davew
Don't you wonder if they have done the same thing being alleged about Putin? just with the opposition forces...

I certainly wouldn't be shocked out of of my socks if I learned they had.

NJ Stinks 01-12-2017 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxcar
Good Morning, Mr. Joiesy:

I have a few questions for you about Putin's alleged war crimes:

1. Has Obama ever condemned Putin as a war criminal?
2. Has Nurse Wratchet (Hillary) ever condemned Putin as a war criminal?
3. Has any leading Democrat ever condemned Putin as a war criminal?

Finally, an observation about the Washington Post reporter who "hacked" Tillerson's notes: You don't find it a wee bit hypocritical that the MM who has been running with the Russian hack story and condemning it has engaged in the very activity that it has been condemning? And look at yourself for that matter! You, too, have condemned the alleged Russian hacks but now run to the defense of the hypocritical reporter? Truly, you and the reporter give affirmation to what most of us have known about leftists -- that all is fair in war and love -- all is fair in the game of politics -- any end justifies the means.

Dear I can't see the forest for the trees,

Have Obama, Clinton, or any other leading Dem ever been awarded Putin’s Order of Friendship award?

Do you or any of your other Trump fans here wonder what this upstanding Texan did to earn such an award?

Tillerson should have to jump through more hoops because of his relationship with Putin. A 5 year old can understand in seconds that this is one of the last guys we want to represent us when dealing with Putin.

Finally, no matter what the Washington Post does, conservatives will find fault. 5 year olds can detect that truth in seconds too. :rolleyes:

Greyfox 01-12-2017 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
A 5 year old can understand in seconds that this is one of the last guys we want to represent us when dealing with Putin.

So now you're advocating for 5 year olds to sit on Jury trials? :rolleyes: :lol:
No wonder you'd hang Tillerson high no matter what his credentials.

Tom 01-12-2017 12:20 PM

Hey stinky, if you are so bent on calling Putin a war criminal, why don't you go after OBAMA?


He is the president still and it would not be proper for a civilian to make that accusation. That is the POTUS/CNC should be doing.

Oh, wait, I forgot....the CNC is a sniveling COWARD. :lol:

Man, you make no sense whatsoever.

boxcar 01-12-2017 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Dear I can't see the forest for the trees,

Have Obama, Clinton, or any other leading Dem ever been awarded Putin’s Order of Friendship award?

Do you or any of your other Trump fans here wonder what this upstanding Texan did to earn such an award?

Tillerson should have to jump through more hoops because of his relationship with Putin. A 5 year old can understand in seconds that this is one of the last guys we want to represent us when dealing with Putin.

Finally, no matter what the Washington Post does, conservatives will find fault. 5 year olds can detect that truth in seconds too. :rolleyes:

I know you can't see. You can't see the blatant double standard of all Trump-haters! I bet you'd be very hard-pressed to find even Rubio calling for condemnation of Russia prior to yesterday. Since the U.S. has not officially condemned Putin for war crimes, then why should Tillerson?

Further, I thought Obama was to you lefitists holier-than-thou -- the world's savior -- the "second coming" himself!? If Obama was so righteous, I'm more than amazed that he has not unleashed his righteous anger upon Putin by condemning him as a war criminal.

FantasticDan 01-12-2017 12:40 PM

Maddow did a masterful segment last nite detailing how Tillerson/Exxon/Putin etc have hundreds of billions to gain by opening up Exxon's vast and expansive drilling rights in Russia that have been up to now precluded by sanctions:

http://www.towleroad.com/2017/01/exxon-russia/

Tom 01-12-2017 12:50 PM

Quote:

Have Obama, Clinton, or any other leading Dem ever been awarded Putin’s Order of Friendship award? What they ever do to earn it?

Do you or any of your other Trump fans here wonder what this upstanding Texan did to earn such an award? Why don't you tell us. specifically, what that was?
Or are you just throwing shit against the wall hoping something sticks?

Tom 01-12-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Maddow did a masterful segment last nite detailing how Tillerson/Exxon/Putin etc have hundreds of billions to gain by opening up Exxon's vast and expansive drilling rights in Russia that have been up to now precluded by sanctions:

http://www.towleroad.com/2017/01/exxon-russia/

How do you figure Tillerson will gain anything from this?
Forgive me for not reading it, but I make it a point never read crap written by idiots.

boxcar 01-12-2017 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom
Or are you just throwing shit against the wall hoping something sticks?

Ahh...sticky stinky. I get it. Sounds like something some unsavory character might do in his undies.

FantasticDan 01-12-2017 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom
How do you figure Tillerson will gain anything from this?
Forgive me for not reading it, but I make it a point never read crap written by idiots.

So you never go back and read what you wrote? :lol: :cool:

It's more about the huge economic boon it would be for Russia..

http://www.vox.com/energy-and-enviro...nctions-russia

Tom 01-12-2017 01:31 PM

1. Ha ha! I deserved that! :mad::D
2. What is wrong with an economic boom for Russia? Don't you think that will make them more friendly to us than denying it to them?

ElKabong 01-12-2017 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks
Dear I can't see the forest for the trees,

Have Obama, Clinton, or any other leading Dem ever been awarded Putin’s Order of Friendship award?

Do you or any of your other Trump fans here wonder what this upstanding Texan did to earn such an award?

Tillerson should have to jump through more hoops because of his relationship with Putin. A 5 year old can understand in seconds that this is one of the last guys we want to represent us when dealing with Putin.

Finally, no matter what the Washington Post does, conservatives will find fault. 5 year olds can detect that truth in seconds too. :rolleyes:

So, Obama and Clinton never called Putin a war criminal. Is that correct? You were asked directly but deflected

Under Obama we'v killed scores of people via drone attacks. Many would look at THAT as an act of a war criminal

ElKabong 01-12-2017 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FantasticDan
Maddow did a masterful segment last nite detailing how Tillerson/Exxon/Putin etc have hundreds of billions to gain by opening up Exxon's vast and expansive drilling rights in Russia that have been up to now precluded by sanctions:

http://www.towleroad.com/2017/01/exxon-russia/

Poor Rachel didn't get in on the act! Someone must payyyyyy (whine whine, cry , cry)


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