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classhandicapper 12-07-2022 09:59 AM

Oswald was a CIA Asset
 
Here's something that's not a shock.

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A corps of researchers looking into the 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy say they have unearthed proof his alleged assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, was involved in an operation by the CIA mere months before the killing, reigniting questions about whether the Oswald truly was alone in his decision to kill the youngest man ever elected president.
https://www.newsweek.com/new-documen...oswald-1765105

ranchwest 12-07-2022 10:32 AM

I don't believe Oswald shot anyone.

Look for more truth to emerge on the assassinations of the 60's in coming months.

PaceAdvantage 12-07-2022 10:40 AM

It all started going downhill much faster once Kennedy was assassinated.

That should be obvious to any adult with a functioning brain.

They saw exactly what they could get away with and exactly how gullible the American population was...and just ran with it...

Eisenhower tried to warn everyone...

OntheRail 12-07-2022 11:24 AM

The Fed's deep state have their fingers stirring in many plots right up the their elbows. In recent years... from Whitmer plot to spurring Jan 6th... they pull... guide and push then pin blame on the patsies. Would not be surprised if they are involved with the sub station grid attacks. :coffee:

Inner Dirt 12-07-2022 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ranchwest (Post 2845786)
I don't believe Oswald shot anyone.

Look for more truth to emerge on the assassinations of the 60's in coming months.


Come on man, he fired the magic bullet, :lol::lol::lol:
I think he could of fired the shot through Kennedy's neck, and back. Since he wasn't a skilled marksman, he aimed at JFK's head, and bullet trajectory drop and a target moving away, he ends up hitting him in the neck and back. He needed to aim over Kennedy's head to land a kill shot, no matter what Oswald didn't land the kill shot. The back and neck shot seem to logically come from the same location and shooter as they are on the same horizontal plane, the head shot doesn't fit due to that, let alone his head snapping backward and Jackie climbing on the trunk to collect skull pieces and brains. The secret service agent on the trunk is still alive. Everything he says points to the kill shot coming from the front.

xtb 12-07-2022 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt (Post 2845803)
Come on man, he fired the magic bullet, :lol::lol::lol:
I think he could of fired the shot through Kennedy's neck, and back. Since he wasn't a skilled marksman, he aimed at JFK's head, and bullet trajectory drop and a target moving away, he ends up hitting him in the neck and back. He needed to aim over Kennedy's head to land a kill shot, no matter what Oswald didn't land the kill shot. The back and neck shot seem to logically come from the same location and shooter as they are on the same horizontal plane, the head shot doesn't fit due to that, let alone his head snapping backward and Jackie climbing on the trunk to collect skull pieces and brains. The secret service agent on the trunk is still alive. Everything he says points to the kill shot coming from the front.

The question of whether or not there was a conspiracy ends with the magic bullet alone. A round designed to tumble upon impact cannot cleanly pierce two bodies and end up unscathed. The only plausible explanation is that it was planted by someone who knew the type of rifle Oswald used.

Inner Dirt 12-07-2022 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xtb (Post 2845806)
The question of whether or not there was a conspiracy ends with the magic bullet alone. A round designed to tumble upon impact cannot cleanly pierce two bodies and end up unscathed. The only plausible explanation is that it was planted by someone who knew the type of rifle Oswald used.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-bullet_theory


Much more than piercing two bodies. Hey at least the magic bullet had rifling marks on it.

FakeNameChanged 12-07-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt (Post 2845803)
Come on man, he fired the magic bullet, :lol::lol::lol:
I think he could of fired the shot through Kennedy's neck, and back. Since he wasn't a skilled marksman, he aimed at JFK's head, and bullet trajectory drop and a target moving away, he ends up hitting him in the neck and back. He needed to aim over Kennedy's head to land a kill shot, no matter what Oswald didn't land the kill shot. The back and neck shot seem to logically come from the same location and shooter as they are on the same horizontal plane, the head shot doesn't fit due to that, let alone his head snapping backward and Jackie climbing on the trunk to collect skull pieces and brains. The secret service agent on the trunk is still alive. Everything he says points to the kill shot coming from the front.

Actually it's the other way around when shooting uphill or downhill, depending on the angle. Your point of impact will land higher than expected than your POA. When shooting down a steep angle, aim lower. But the angle from the book depository wasn't that steep; I'm guessing maybe 15-20 degrees? Works the same way in archery hunting, only more exaggerated.

Tom 12-07-2022 02:27 PM

Was it Martians?
 
https://potus-geeks.livejournal.com/1317663.html

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Lester believes the document to be authentic and claimed that the memo provides the "missing link" in a conspiracy theory surrounding another document, one which many conspiracy theorists argue shows that the CIA killed Kennedy to prevent his involvement in a UFO cover-up. This document, called the "burned memo," was allegedly passed to the some members of the non-mainstream media in 1999 by an anonymous source who claimed to be a former CIA operative. The alleged leaker claimed to have worked for the CIA between 1960 and 1974. He said that he pulled the memo from a fire when the agency was burning some of its most sensitive files. In the "burned memo," the CIA director at the time llegedly wrote: "Lancer [the CIA's codename for JFK] has made some inquiries regarding our activities, which we cannot allow. Please submit your views no later than October. Your action to this matter is critical to the continuance of the group."

Inner Dirt 12-07-2022 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FakeNameChanged (Post 2845836)
Actually it's the other way around when shooting uphill or downhill, depending on the angle. Your point of impact will land higher than expected than your POA. When shooting down a steep angle, aim lower. But the angle from the book depository wasn't that steep; I'm guessing maybe 15-20 degrees? Works the same way in archery hunting, only more exaggerated.


I would think that over again, I think you are wrong.

PaceAdvantage 12-07-2022 03:27 PM

sounds like an x-files episode

Which reminds me...

this is TOTALLY appropriate today:


FakeNameChanged 12-07-2022 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt (Post 2845859)
I would think that over again, I think you are wrong.

Have done it many times with a rifle and bow at targets, deer, no moving limos. It's a moot point for an assassin with even a minimum amount of training. He'd recon the exp target for range, angles, etc. and sight his rifle scope in for xx degrees at xxx yards. Then no need to aim high, low, maybe account for a cross wind, and how much to lead a target moving laterally at something like 6-10 MPH?

This problem really plagues bowhunters when shooting from a tree stand, who've only practiced standing on the ground. Misses almost always go high.

Here's a short blurb from rifleshootermag:
Here's where it gets really tricky. Because you've got your rifle sighted in at 200 yards, your point of impact is typically 1.30 inches high at 75 yards, and when pointed at 80 degrees angle, gravity isn't going to pull your bullet back down to meet your line of sight at 200 yards. Nope: that bullet is going to continue to deviate away from your line of sight and will hit considerably higher than anticipated.


https://www.rifleshootermag.com/edit...gle-shot/83768

Inner Dirt 12-07-2022 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by FakeNameChanged (Post 2845861)
Have done it many times with a rifle and bow at targets, deer, no moving limos. It's a moot point for an assassin with even a minimum amount of training. He'd recon the exp target for range, angles, etc. and sight his rifle scope in for xx degrees at xxx yards. Then no need to aim high, low, maybe account for a cross wind, and how much to lead a target moving laterally at something like 6-10 MPH?

This problem really plagues bowhunters when shooting from a tree stand, who've only practiced standing on the ground. Misses almost always go high.

Here's a short blurb from rifleshootermag:
Here's where it gets really tricky. Because you've got your rifle sighted in at 200 yards, your point of impact is typically 1.30 inches high at 75 yards, and when pointed at 80 degrees angle, gravity isn't going to pull your bullet back down to meet your line of sight at 200 yards. Nope: that bullet is going to continue to deviate away from your line of sight and will hit considerably higher than anticipated.


https://www.rifleshootermag.com/edit...gle-shot/83768


I was going under the assumption he had not sighted the rifle for that shot,
so we end up talking apples and oranges. From what I have researched Oswald was not an expert marksman. I have a customer who makes parts to restore vintage foreign rifles, I make screws and firing pins for him and make round blanks for him to further work on. He actually buys non functional rifles by the pallet load, he actually has a couple Caranos
of the model Oswald used. He claims they are junk and says Oswald was lucky to hit anything at that distance. He sounds like he believes there were 3 shooters.

boxcar 12-07-2022 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2845860)
sounds like an x-files episode

Which reminds me...

this is TOTALLY appropriate today:


And biblical! :ThmbUp:

ranchwest 12-07-2022 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Inner Dirt (Post 2845803)
Come on man, he fired the magic bullet, :lol::lol::lol:
I think he could of fired the shot through Kennedy's neck, and back. Since he wasn't a skilled marksman, he aimed at JFK's head, and bullet trajectory drop and a target moving away, he ends up hitting him in the neck and back. He needed to aim over Kennedy's head to land a kill shot, no matter what Oswald didn't land the kill shot. The back and neck shot seem to logically come from the same location and shooter as they are on the same horizontal plane, the head shot doesn't fit due to that, let alone his head snapping backward and Jackie climbing on the trunk to collect skull pieces and brains. The secret service agent on the trunk is still alive. Everything he says points to the kill shot coming from the front.

There was only one hole on the rear (other than the head). That hole was at the third thoracic vertebrae.


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