This almost sums up my entire approach to public handicappers. I would have to add David Aragona to the short list with Andy. Between the two of them I get a lot of information useful in betting NYRA races.

Amen, JimG !

If I made my selections for Belmont and Santa Anita available for purchase do you think there would be a market?

no

sorry

David had a stellar day yesterday.

You'd have a better chance of getting a track to pay you to post your handicapping advice/picks on their website, though knowing how things go that would probably just be an additional duty they'd tack on wherever you were calling races rather than something you'd get paid more for.

I watch TVG maybe 2 hours a week. I couldn't name any of them, or pick them out of a line up. Its the general Horse chitter and chatter that I enjoy in the background when I play..

They're all good , most of them have been there forever, and I appreciate what they do. To do what they do is not easy at all.

The best guest they ever had was me, 15 years ago. I put them on the Map:lol:.

As far as picks..who needs other peoples picks when you have BB & W?

I was badly traumatized :)by west coast racing. Russel Baze riding glorified quarter horses on Ice at Bay Meadows. I turned away from the west coast and never went back.

Andy Serling is my go-to. I listen closely to him. Andy is selective who he has on so his guest's get a running start with me too.

Footnote: To much of a good thing having industry people here. All they do is lurk and Peacock themselves at any chance.

I don't lurk. I don't Peacock.

Didn't mean to precisely include you at all. I saw you on an interview and thought you were a pretty sharp horse player. That's all I need , that's the only test I give.

The other stuff you get down with, cat fights, twitter feuds, that's boring and strange to me. But as a horse player I give you props.

I, personally, would love it if MORE "industry people" posted here...even if they mostly "Peacocked" themselves. It could only add to the interest generated by our discussions...IMO.

Its not like it can be controlled anyway right? We'd need a doorman checking credentials... :)

Its all good. I'm not invested in my own opinion at all. Just jabbering.

Frontsiders are the only people at the racetrack not being paid to be there. And traditionally, old days, Frontsiders kept a distance from backsiders and vis versa. It was culture I guess. Circled in the same orbit but not touching.

You can hurt a trainer talking shit about his horses.
You hurt a gambler by talking shit about his bets.

Also, I hate to think the beautiful sweet likes of Gaby Gaudet and Maggie Wolfendale would see some of my off color remarks. Frontsiders misbehave. Sorry girls.

No upside to it and it could end up costing them their jobs. That's why most don't

thats not true ,ive seen guys like vic and peter berry posting without losing their jobs.

Well YOU would have to be our "greeter."
Who knows more race track people than YOU do? :D