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elysiantraveller 01-13-2018 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by boxcar (Post 2260571)
Newsflash of Common Sense: When something is broken beyond repair, the reasonable and sensible thing to do is walk it out to the curb or easement on garbage pick up day and then replace it with something better. By the way, this was exactly the argument the Demwits used to justify the takeover of the Health Care Industry. They claimed the system was broken beyond repair. Just sayin'.... :coffee:

The system was broken then and it is now.

I completely agree with everything you said. The issue is we failed to replace it with something better. Obamacare was terrible. It's even more terrible now. That isn't a victory.

It will be interesting in upcoming elections how Healthcare is viewed by the general electorate. Since the GOP is now responsible for the ACA.

Tom 01-13-2018 09:57 AM

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When something is broken beyond repair, the reasonable and sensible thing to do is walk it out to the curb or easement on garbage pick up day and then replace it with something better.
You are singing to the choir! :pound:

fast4522 01-13-2018 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2260575)
The system was broken then and it is now.

I completely agree with everything you said. The issue is we failed to replace it with something better. Obamacare was terrible. It's even more terrible now. That isn't a victory.

It will be interesting in upcoming elections how Healthcare is viewed by the general electorate. Since the GOP is now responsible for the ACA.


Best way forward is more jobs with health care insurance, and just get rid of it completely.

upthecreek 01-13-2018 10:38 AM


elysiantraveller 01-13-2018 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fast4522 (Post 2260595)
Best way forward is more jobs with health care insurance, and just get rid of it completely.

That is definitely part of the solution but there are a lot of entrepreneurs and self employed people out there with pre-existing conditions.

Clocker 01-13-2018 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2260609)
That is definitely part of the solution but there are a lot of entrepreneurs and self employed people out there with pre-existing conditions.

Before ObamaCare, most states had high-risk pools, where people with pre-existing conditions could get health insurance with state subsidies.

In a high-risk pool, the subsidy comes from general tax revenues. Under ObamaCare, the subsidy comes from the young and healthy who are forced to pay for more coverage than they want or need.

tucker6 01-13-2018 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2260640)
who are forced to pay for more coverage than they want or need.

At least I have coverage for my future pregnancy. (54 year old guy)

boxcar 01-13-2018 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2260575)
The system was broken then and it is now.

I completely agree with everything you said. The issue is we failed to replace it with something better. Obamacare was terrible. It's even more terrible now. That isn't a victory.

It will be interesting in upcoming elections how Healthcare is viewed by the general electorate. Since the GOP is now responsible for the ACA.

And the Demwits don't want to fix what they created. I can only hope and pray that ObamaCare suffers an agonizing death and fades rapidly into the category of a bad nightmare of one broken promise after another.

boxcar 01-13-2018 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2260587)
You are singing to the choir! :pound:

:lol::lol::lol: You're already in the running for post of the year. :coffee:

boxcar 01-13-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2260609)
That is definitely part of the solution but there are a lot of entrepreneurs and self employed people out there with pre-existing conditions.

Let those people do what the folks in KY are going to do -- pay into Medicaid and get their health needs met with that system.

Clocker 01-13-2018 01:10 PM

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Let those people do what the folks in KY are going to do -- pay into Medicaid and get their health needs met with that system.

Last I heard, about 75% of doctors don't accept Medicaid.

boxcar 01-13-2018 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2260674)
Last I heard, about 75% of doctors don't accept Medicaid.

And easy fix. Two things: The government needs to find out why are so many doctors anti-medicaid. Then fix what's wrong.

elysiantraveller 01-13-2018 01:32 PM

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And easy fix. Two things: The government needs to find out why are so many doctors anti-medicaid. Then fix what's wrong.

It doesn't pay.

boxcar 01-13-2018 01:39 PM

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It doesn't pay.

Sounds like a bureaucratic problem. Just need to cut through that nonsense.


Shirley, you don't want to axe medicaid when millions upon millions upon millions of poor people's lives depend on that system of quality health care, do you?

Clocker 01-13-2018 01:42 PM

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And easy fix. Two things: The government needs to find out why are so many doctors anti-medicaid. Then fix what's wrong.

The government knows why so many doctors are "anti-Medicaid". It's because Medicaid payments are much lower than Medicare or any insurance, and don't cover the cost of care. Doctors have this irrational opposition to losing money on patients.

The fix is easy. The feds and the states need to spend a lot more money propping up Medicaid. :rolleyes:


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