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RacingFan1992 02-25-2023 02:52 AM

Upcoming Justify vs Mick Ruis. March 22, 2023
 
Old Article but the case is going to be interesting.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...ed-for-hearing

RacingFan1992 05-31-2023 02:57 PM


RacingFan1992 09-09-2023 11:03 AM

Update

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...lifornia-court

They are going back to court. I'm rooting for them to disqualify Justify from the SA Derby.

PalaceOfFortLarned 12-01-2023 05:24 PM

Ruh roh.


RacingFan1992 12-01-2023 11:30 PM

Well you could say Mick Ruis was finally Justified! lol

I'm waiting for them to say he didn't qualify for the Kentucky Derby which in this case he didn't. I think there may be grounds for fraud because they presented him as the winner of the Santa Anita Derby but in actuality he wasn't and didn't have enough points.

I've been waiting for this decision since it was first reported on in 2019.

PalaceOfFortLarned 12-02-2023 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingFan1992 (Post 2915986)
Well you could say Mick Ruis was finally Justified! lol

I'm waiting for them to say he didn't qualify for the Kentucky Derby which in this case he didn't. I think there may be grounds for fraud because they presented him as the winner of the Santa Anita Derby but in actuality he wasn't and didn't have enough points.

I've been waiting for this decision since it was first reported on in 2019.

Well PETA demands as much.

https://www.peta.org/media/news-rele...-derby-titles/

RacingFan1992 12-02-2023 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalaceOfFortLarned (Post 2915989)

My issue is he should be stripped of his Kentucky Derby title which would ultimately take away the Triple Crown title but if they want his Preakness and Belmont wins taken away then I think that's not right because Justify didn't violate any rules in regards to his qualification entry into those two races.

affirmedny 12-02-2023 10:08 AM


RacingFan1992 12-02-2023 10:55 AM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That's actually an awesome response to this whole story! lol :):lol:

classhandicapper 12-03-2023 04:38 PM

I know this matters historically and it certainly matters when it comes to purses, but Justify is looking like a kick ass sire, possibly on two surfaces. I don't think any of this is going to impact his stud fee or value.

Ruffian1 12-04-2023 08:35 AM

Five years after Justify wins the Santa Anita Derby, he is finally disqualified from the win for an overage that was not allowed.


Let's see, as I remembered it, when a horse had a positive, that horse was disqualified and the purse money redistributed.

It didn't matter WHAT was in the blood and or urine. If it was not allowed it was NOT allowed. But that was way back in the day and well before we were so insightfully told that the overage was only a few, a dozen or 29 picograms. The quote, if I'm not mistaken was, "Do you know how small that is"?

Let's not even go into the fact that had Justify not won the Santa Anita Derby, he would have not been able to race in the Ky. Derby.

But ah, details, details.

So the biggest winners here are... nobody.

And the biggest losers? Justify who as great a horse as he was and still is simply deserved better. And right behind him , the fans, who are asked to trust and support the racing product that has obvious problems. The game also gets yet another black eye or asterisk. Whichever suits the narrative I suppose.

Someday Silent 12-05-2023 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruffian1 (Post 2916250)
Five years after Justify wins the Santa Anita Derby, he is finally disqualified from the win for an overage that was not allowed.


Let's see, as I remembered it, when a horse had a positive, that horse was disqualified and the purse money redistributed.

It didn't matter WHAT was in the blood and or urine. If it was not allowed it was NOT allowed. But that was way back in the day and well before we were so insightfully told that the overage was only a few, a dozen or 29 picograms. The quote, if I'm not mistaken was, "Do you know how small that is"?

Let's not even go into the fact that had Justify not won the Santa Anita Derby, he would have not been able to race in the Ky. Derby.

But ah, details, details.

So the biggest winners here are... nobody.

And the biggest losers? Justify who as great a horse as he was and still is simply deserved better. And right behind him , the fans, who are asked to trust and support the racing product that has obvious problems. The game also gets yet another black eye or asterisk. Whichever suits the narrative I suppose.

💯💯💯

And honestly, is the sport any better off with Good Magic and Chad “Choke ‘em Out” Brown as official winners of the 2018 Kentucky Derby?


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