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VigorsTheGrey 08-31-2017 03:38 AM

New "Jockey 7 Wager" at Kentucky Downs
 

Dahoss9698 08-31-2017 08:29 AM

One of the dumber ideas I've seen in awhile. The only good thing is a percentage of the wager goes to the PDJF.

VigorsTheGrey 08-31-2017 01:24 PM

I think the bet is rather interesting...I have a jockey in mind already and he may go off at 10-1 each day...

He only has to win one of 5 days for at least a 100 percent return on my combined wagers...

What is so dumb about that...?

RedMeansGo 09-01-2017 07:38 AM

Why limit it to jockeys? Can we get down on trainers, owners, groomers?

Agree with dahoss here, this is silly.

Lemon Drop Husker 09-01-2017 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss9698 (Post 2214323)
One of the dumber ideas I've seen in awhile. The only good thing is a percentage of the wager goes to the PDJF.

Sorry, but I don't get your complaint.

They are trying a new, different, and interesting idea. One that could create fan interest and more money into the game.

And yes, a percentage does go to the guys they/we/I will be wagering upon. Sounds like a win/win to me. :ThmbUp:

Dahoss9698 09-01-2017 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker (Post 2214721)
Sorry, but I don't get your complaint.

They are trying a new, different, and interesting idea. One that could create fan interest and more money into the game.

And yes, a percentage does go to the guys they/we/I will be wagering upon. Sounds like a win/win to me. :ThmbUp:

My first question is why? Why do we need another wager? Are there not enough already?

If the goal is Fan interest I suggest teaching fans how to bet is a much better way of generating interest than a jockey bet.

I actually love betting on Kentucky Downs. One of my favorite meets of the year. I just won't be betting on jockeys.

Lemon Drop Husker 09-01-2017 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss9698 (Post 2214722)
My first question is why? Why do we need another wager? Are there not enough already?

If the goal is Fan interest I suggest teaching fans how to bet is a much better way of generating interest than a jockey bet.

I actually love betting on Kentucky Downs. One of my favorite meets of the year. I just won't be betting on jockeys.

Obviously it isn't for you.

Creating fan interest isn't about W/P/S or Exactas. It is about "interest". Find a single jockey for the next 7 races and root them on while enjoying friends, family, food, and the atmosphere.

But hey, damn them for trying something different. Everything else horse racing has done has created so much of a buzz we have to keep the newbies from spoiling our riches. We don't need to invent or find something new or different.

Dahoss9698 09-01-2017 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker (Post 2214727)
Obviously it isn't for you.

Creating fan interest isn't about W/P/S or Exactas. It is about "interest". Find a single jockey for the next 7 races and root them on while enjoying friends, family, food, and the atmosphere.

But hey, damn them for trying something different. Everything else horse racing has done has created so much of a buzz we have to keep the newbies from spoiling our riches. We don't need to invent or find something new or different.

I'm for educating newbies. Educate them and then maybe they become followers of the sport.

You seem to be against educating and instead feel like following a jockey and enjoying the atmosphere will lead to people becoming followers.

Good luck with that.

Lemon Drop Husker 09-01-2017 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss9698 (Post 2214731)
I'm for educating newbies. Educate them and then maybe they become followers of the sport.

You seem to be against educating and instead feel like following a jockey and enjoying the atmosphere will lead to people becoming followers.

Good luck with that.

I've "educated" some of my most well to do and intelligent friends. They don't care. They are looking for an outlet of easy and don't want to have to go through the rigors of handicapping to find a winner or two.

Betting on a single jockey for 7 races is easy.

Dahoss9698 09-01-2017 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker (Post 2214732)
I've "educated" some of my most well to do and intelligent friends. They don't care. They are looking for an outlet of easy and don't want to have to go through the rigors of handicapping to find a winner or two.

Betting on a single jockey for 7 races is easy.

So is betting on a name.

But I guess since educating your friends didn't work we should just forget the whole thing. Good idea!

Lemon Drop Husker 09-01-2017 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss9698 (Post 2214733)
So is betting on a name.

But I guess since educating your friends didn't work we should just forget the whole thing. Good idea!


Yes. Pretty much. That would be 95% of the people I know.

Hand them a racing form, or try to teach them little tidbits of handicapping is too much. Way too much work. Much easier to go to the casino and not have to think. Not too mention, they don't have to wait 30 minutes between races to push a button or take a hit in Blackjack.

Dahoss9698 09-01-2017 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker (Post 2214737)
Yes. Pretty much. That would be 95% of the people I know.

Hand them a racing form, or try to teach them little tidbits of handicapping is too much. Way too much work. Much easier to go to the casino and not have to think. Not too mention, they don't have to wait 30 minutes between races to push a button or take a hit in Blackjack.

Interesting.

Do your friends play fantasy football?

Dahoss9698 09-01-2017 09:49 AM

Looks like you guys are going to hold off betting on jockeys until Wednesday.

Lemon Drop Husker 09-01-2017 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss9698 (Post 2214742)
Interesting.

Do your friends play fantasy football?

Yep.

I do as well. So do 80% of the people that pay taxes.

Can I assume that you don't?

Dahoss9698 09-01-2017 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker (Post 2214757)
Yep.

I do as well. So do 80% of the people that pay taxes.

Can I assume that you don't?

I do. I just find it odd they don't mind the thinking and work involved in fantasy football but can't be bothered to learn how to handicap.


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