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Actor 12-14-2018 12:02 AM

Robots
 

chadk66 12-14-2018 08:29 AM

Heck my wife's Irobot is worth every dollar we paid for it :pound:

sammy the sage 12-14-2018 08:36 AM

Waiting for type of ads to show up here....:eek:


Actor 12-14-2018 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sammy the sage (Post 2406606)

Resistance is futile!


Tom 12-14-2018 09:58 AM

What I want is a Roomba that has a "get beer from fridge and deliver" option.

Actor 12-15-2018 02:48 AM

Watch the video on my OP and you get some interesting predictions. The thing about these predictions is that unlike some other predictions, e.g., global warming, where consequences are decades down the road, these predictions are for the next 10 years. In 2019 (17 days away) GM is going to market a completely automated car, no steering wheel. The job of truck driving may be gone in 5 years. The video predicts that by 2030 73,000,000 jobs in the U.S. will be gone forever. The U.S. Department of Labor says the labor force was 160,000,000 in January 2018. The loss of 73,000,000 jobs would mean an unemployment rate of 45%. If you are replaced by a robot it's unlikely that you can retrain yourself to do something else because that something else is probably already being done by a robot.

During the great depression the unemployment rate hit 35%. The problem was that the unemployed were not buying, ergo, there were fewer potential customers, ergo, there was less investment, ergo, there were fewer jobs, ergo, unemployment went up, ergo, people bought less, ergo, ... It was a vicious circle.

The cycle is being set to begin again. Robots may work for nothing, but they also buy nothing.

So what's going to happen? I don't know. But I will make some predictions.
  • The crime rate is going to go up drastically.
  • Gun sales will go up.
  • The big issue in the 2028 elections (maybe in 2024) is going to be the robot problem.
Think I'm wrong? Fine! We'll know in the next 10 years, and that's not that far away.

TJDave 12-15-2018 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Actor (Post 2406997)

So what's going to happen? I don't know. But I will make some predictions.
  • The crime rate is going to go up drastically.
  • Gun sales will go up.
  • The big issue in the 2028 elections (maybe in 2024) is going to be the robot problem.
Think I'm wrong? Fine! We'll know in the next 10 years, and that's not that far away.

My guess is that we will find a way to pacify those who are displaced. Probably paying them.

chadk66 12-15-2018 06:03 AM

displacement of that nature is never going to happen. hell it would take 35 million just to fix the damn things.

Actor 12-15-2018 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TJDave (Post 2407000)
My guess is that we will find a way to pacify those who are displaced. Probably paying them.

A definite possibility. Universal Guaranteed Income. The government pays you $15,000 per year in return for your vote. The robots do all the work. After a generation the work ethic is a thing of the past.

davew 12-15-2018 11:54 AM

I found Katie Couric's piece interesting with the segment showing in Japan they have 'virtual dates' through their smart phones.

TJDave 12-15-2018 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Actor (Post 2407008)
A definite possibility. Universal Guaranteed Income. The government pays you $15,000 per year in return for your vote. The robots do all the work. After a generation the work ethic is a thing of the past.

Gonna take more than 15k. We’re working our way toward utopian socialism...or total anarchy.

Whichever comes first. ;-)

davew 12-15-2018 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Actor (Post 2407008)
A definite possibility. Universal Guaranteed Income. The government pays you $15,000 per year in return for your vote. The robots do all the work. After a generation the work ethic is a thing of the past.

So the people milking the system for $40K+, would that be in addition to or instead of?

ultracapper 12-17-2018 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sammy the sage (Post 2406606)
Waiting for type of ads to show up here....:eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cN8sJz50Ng


Atlanta Rhythm Section"s Imaginary Lover come to life.

Bobby Hill's dreams become real.

ultracapper 12-17-2018 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Actor (Post 2406997)
Watch the video on my OP and you get some interesting predictions. The thing about these predictions is that unlike some other predictions, e.g., global warming, where consequences are decades down the road, these predictions are for the next 10 years. In 2019 (17 days away) GM is going to market a completely automated car, no steering wheel. The job of truck driving may be gone in 5 years. The video predicts that by 2030 73,000,000 jobs in the U.S. will be gone forever. The U.S. Department of Labor says the labor force was 160,000,000 in January 2018. The loss of 73,000,000 jobs would mean an unemployment rate of 45%. If you are replaced by a robot it's unlikely that you can retrain yourself to do something else because that something else is probably already being done by a robot.

During the great depression the unemployment rate hit 35%. The problem was that the unemployed were not buying, ergo, there were fewer potential customers, ergo, there was less investment, ergo, there were fewer jobs, ergo, unemployment went up, ergo, people bought less, ergo, ... It was a vicious circle.

The cycle is being set to begin again. Robots may work for nothing, but they also buy nothing.

So what's going to happen? I don't know. But I will make some predictions.
  • The crime rate is going to go up drastically.
  • Gun sales will go up.
  • The big issue in the 2028 elections (maybe in 2024) is going to be the robot problem.
Think I'm wrong? Fine! We'll know in the next 10 years, and that's not that far away.

And the last thing, the very last thing, any of us could ever want, is for the authorities to respond to this by arming the robots. When the soldiers no longer have mothers or wives or children and exist only for the needs of the commanders, you can arm yourself all night and day long. You blow away 25 armed bots, they'll just send 25 more tomorrow, and just keep sending them.

sammy the sage 12-17-2018 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ultracapper (Post 2407873)
And the last thing, the very last thing, any of us could ever want, is for the authorities to respond to this by arming the robots. When the soldiers no longer have mothers or wives or children and exist only for the needs of the commanders, you can arm yourself all night and day long. You blow away 25 armed bots, they'll just send 25 more tomorrow, and just keep sending them.

Well unfortunately...Drones/robots ARE THE wave of future...for wars...


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