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Stillriledup 06-02-2013 05:12 PM

The Bad Beat thread.
 
I want to cry about a horrendous beat i just took, but wasnt sure where to do it. So, maybe we can have this 'bad beat' thread and whenever you take a bad one, you can come here and find a shoulder to cry on. :(

Just got nosed for a ton of money at Pimlico in the 6th race, i had a 4 dollar tri needing the 8 horse for 3rd. It looked to the naked eye like he was up for show, with the jock on the 1-2 favorite 'standing up' at the wire, but somehow i lost a dirty bob and got nada. Not even a saver. And, i usually would have had the superfecta there, but never got around to betting supers, the 8 horse was the horse i was keying in there.

Tri with the heavy fave 3rd paid 1500 for a buck, so, i have to imagine mine would have paid at least 2k for a buck (times 4).

:bang:

wiffleball whizz 06-02-2013 05:48 PM

Sounds like a baseball bat to the computer if you ask me...that's why I can't bet from my house....6 years ago bought a laptop took a nasty beat online poker the laptop went out the 2nd floor window....I closed the window took a shower got dressed went to casino.....when I returned home if it wasn't broken already the 2 inches of rain that fell out it out of its misery

Back to topic at hand there's been so many for me it jut rolls off my back...

700 place Barbaro
$3 pick 6 ending with big brown in Belmont

$300 win bet on curlin in Preakness that when I got home and looked at ticket it was $300 place....that was fun

20/40 holdem game I got 6-7 clubs flop is 8-9-10 clubs....turn J clubs river Q clubs......the jag off had the king clubs...retArded beat

Being born = bad beat in its own respect

Stillriledup 06-02-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wiffleball whizz
Sounds like a baseball bat to the computer if you ask me...that's why I can't bet from my house....6 years ago bought a laptop took a nasty beat online poker the laptop went out the 2nd floor window....I closed the window took a shower got dressed went to casino.....when I returned home if it wasn't broken already the 2 inches of rain that fell out it out of its misery

Back to topic at hand there's been so many for me it jut rolls off my back...

700 place Barbaro
$3 pick 6 ending with big brown in Belmont

$300 win bet on curlin in Preakness that when I got home and looked at ticket it was $300 place....that was fun

20/40 holdem game I got 6-7 clubs flop is 8-9-10 clubs....turn J clubs river Q clubs......the jag off had the king clubs...retArded beat

Being born = bad beat in its own respect

I've lost a laptop or 2 due to frustration and i smashed my phone on a desk (but luckily Apple replaced the broken speaker free of charge, of course, they didnt know the speaker died a gambling related death!)

Beachbabe 06-02-2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiffleball whizz
Sounds like a baseball bat to the computer if you ask me...that's why I can't bet from my house....6 years ago bought a laptop took a nasty beat online poker the laptop went out the 2nd floor window....I closed the window took a shower got dressed went to casino.....when I returned home if it wasn't broken already the 2 inches of rain that fell out it out of its misery

Back to topic at hand there's been so many for me it jut rolls off my back...

700 place Barbaro
$3 pick 6 ending with big brown in Belmont

$300 win bet on curlin in Preakness that when I got home and looked at ticket it was $300 place....that was fun

20/40 holdem game I got 6-7 clubs flop is 8-9-10 clubs....turn J clubs river Q clubs......the jag off had the king clubs...retArded beat

Being born = bad beat in its own respect

Didn't you win the "bad beat" Jackpot ? Sometimes that's not too shabby.

Fwizard 06-02-2013 07:04 PM

Most places both players must use both cards in their hand for the bad beat--so the winner would have to had king and ace of clubs....

dilanesp 06-02-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fwizard
Most places both players must use both cards in their hand for the bad beat--so the winner would have to had king and ace of clubs....

At any rate, if you are good enough to be playing 20/40, you are good enough to know that thinking about bad beats in poker is grossly -EV.

wiffleball whizz 06-02-2013 08:17 PM

Bad beat is your a 7 day a week player about 80 a week...

Nobody wants bad beat jackpot

Longshot6977 06-02-2013 08:45 PM

About 7 years ago, I had a nice $1 super going at Balmoral when my first 3 horses crossed the wire. My 4th horse was in a very close photo. All my horses had long odds(none in the top 4 choices) in a field of ten. I waited quite long for the photo result and was at least hoping for a dead heat. But no, they declared the other horse beat mine. My 4th place horse was 13-1. The other was about 6-1 or 7-1. It paid $31,000.
If I had it with my 13-1 shot, it may have paid a little more. To make matters worse, the photo looked like a dead heat. It took me just one race to get over it though. Just turn the page.

Stillriledup 06-02-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longshot6977
About 7 years ago, I had a nice $1 super going at Balmoral when my first 3 horses crossed the wire. My 4th horse was in a very close photo. All my horses had long odds(none in the top 4 choices) in a field of ten. I waited quite long for the photo result and was at least hoping for a dead heat. But no, they declared the other horse beat mine. My 4th place horse was 13-1. The other was about 6-1 or 7-1. It paid $31,000.
If I had it with my 13-1 shot, it may have paid a little more. To make matters worse, the photo looked like a dead heat. It took me just one race to get over it though. Just turn the page.

Ugh, LS, i feel your pain.

I could fill up pages of posts with similar beats, dq's and the like. If i had one tenth of the bad beat money i've lost over the years, i'd be sunning somewhere warm while sipping a pina colada that was handed to me by a pretty girl in a skimpy outfit. :D

CincyHorseplayer 06-03-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stillriledup
I want to cry about a horrendous beat i just took, but wasnt sure where to do it. So, maybe we can have this 'bad beat' thread and whenever you take a bad one, you can come here and find a shoulder to cry on. :(

Just got nosed for a ton of money at Pimlico in the 6th race, i had a 4 dollar tri needing the 8 horse for 3rd. It looked to the naked eye like he was up for show, with the jock on the 1-2 favorite 'standing up' at the wire, but somehow i lost a dirty bob and got nada. Not even a saver. And, i usually would have had the superfecta there, but never got around to betting supers, the 8 horse was the horse i was keying in there.

Tri with the heavy fave 3rd paid 1500 for a buck, so, i have to imagine mine would have paid at least 2k for a buck (times 4).

:bang:

I'm pretty even keel but I had so many bad trips and gate face planters at Belmont Saturday you could have put on the yellow outfit on me because I was on suicide watch!I'm not joking,even my winner in the 10th had a bad gate break.I was so rattled,when I went to my cousin's graduation party I made myself a drink and my hands were shaking.Not from alcohol.Not from physical degeneration of any sort.But just pure adrenalin.Were some tough hombres but at some point it's going to get to us.I feel ya brother.

wiffleball whizz 06-03-2013 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer
I'm pretty even keel but I had so many bad trips and gate face planters at Belmont Saturday you could have put on the yellow outfit on me because I was on suicide watch!I'm not joking,even my winner in the 10th had a bad gate break.I was so rattled,when I went to my cousin's graduation party I made myself a drink and my hands were shaking.Not from alcohol.Not from physical degeneration of any sort.But just pure adrenalin.Were some tough hombres but at some point it's going to get to us.I feel ya brother.

Going tO graduation parties/bday parties after gambling is never fun.....how about my gf was having her daughters party on a October Saturday night....earlier in the day was at Foxwoods from 5am-11:50am just in time to get home and fire in college football action...

Was home sweating games all day then had to go to this party cold turkey with no action at 7pm......well I wasn't having that there were 2 tv at the bar at the Italian American club and they were on football...besides they're was 250 people at the party I wasn't making it or breaking it!!

CincyHorseplayer 06-03-2013 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiffleball whizz
Going tO graduation parties/bday parties after gambling is never fun.....how about my gf was having her daughters party on a October Saturday night....earlier in the day was at Foxwoods from 5am-11:50am just in time to get home and fire in college football action...

Was home sweating games all day then had to go to this party cold turkey with no action at 7pm......well I wasn't having that there were 2 tv at the bar at the Italian American club and they were on football...besides they're was 250 people at the party I wasn't making it or breaking it!!

Not really wanting to distract from this thread but my family is a tight unit,we have a great time.Sorry to hear your family functions stink.Graduation party for my cousin Max was great.14 year old kid heading into a great high school in Elder,where the family experience is of utmost importance.These might be kids but these are landmarks.My horseplaying game only interfered because I was late watching Arlington!Beyond that we had a blast.

1st time lasix 06-03-2013 03:41 PM

bad beat? I once had the only winner in the pick six at Arlington Park ....only to be "taken down" because the jock brushed a horse he didn't see on his rear flank with his whip. He didn't even need the darn thing..... He won by at least four or five lengths or so.....but the take down carried the $17 k into the next day pool. :bang:

wiffleball whizz 06-03-2013 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer
Not really wanting to distract from this thread but my family is a tight unit,we have a great time.Sorry to hear your family functions stink.Graduation party for my cousin Max was great.14 year old kid heading into a great high school in Elder,where the family experience is of utmost importance.These might be kids but these are landmarks.My horseplaying game only interfered because I was late watching Arlington!Beyond that we had a blast.

Wasn't my family function.....

wiffleball whizz 06-03-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1st time lasix
bad beat? I once had the only winner in the pick six at Arlington Park ....only to be "taken down" because the jock brushed a horse he didn't see on his rear flank with his whip. He didn't even need the darn thing..... He won by at least four or five lengths or so.....but the take down carried the $17 k into the next day pool. :bang:

I wouldnt be able to stomach that......having your number flashing for big money is as hopeless a feeling there is....for 17k I'd explode and that could be a understatement

BlueShoe 06-03-2013 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stillriledup
I could fill up pages of posts with similar beats, dq's and the like. If i had one tenth of the bad beat money i've lost over the years, i'd be sunning somewhere warm while sipping a pina colada that was handed to me by a pretty girl in a skimpy outfit. :D

Amen Brother. :( If I could do so, I would gladly exchange every time I have ever been moved up by a dq with those I have had set down. Would also trade the photos that have gone my way with those that did not. These things are supposed to even out over the years and decades, but 'tain't so. Could fill several pages with bad beat tales, if I could remember them all, which I cannot, but then again, so could all of us, not just me. Every time I visit my otb site and wager on races all over the country I experience bad beats, we all do. All we can do is shrug it off, say that it is just part of racing, forget it and go on.

wiffleball whizz 06-03-2013 04:08 PM

Hows this for a bad beat and one I wouldn't believe if I saw it with my own eyes....before I say this I want everybody to know I think when there is a bad beat in poker it's because the shuffle machine didn't shuffle cards properly...

Foxwoods on derby night 2 years ago I was having a good day there and wanted to take a knee and run out the clock and lock up a win I drove with the gf and she was stuck and didn't wanna leave so I walk into a 20/40 game cold which I don't like doing I always want to be at a game when it opens....I'm happily even before I hear noise that's resembles when a fight breaks outs or there is a ugly situation developing....

In a 1/2nl game I I hear yelling after the turn card is dealt...

Player A has pocket 10s
Player b has pocket 9s

Flop 9 hearts 9 clubs 10 hearts

Turn Q hearts......

3 way all in and u don't have to turn over your cards in this situation...

Dealer turns the big black 10 of clubs...,.now at this point the guy with pocket 9s slams down and says quad 9s baby ship the cash....the other guy with 10s says to player with the 9s WE HIT THE BAD BEAT!!!!! The whole time nobody sees the guy with KJ of hearts for the straight flush I don't think the guy even knew abort the about bad beat jackpot....

At this point the guy with the 9s us running around the room like a chicken with head cut off high fiving not knowing the guy has a straight flush....I'm sure he hears the commotion going on but he figures it's just the crowd reacting to his bad beat hit

I see 2 guys trying to flag him down in the corner but he's zooming like a busy bee.....

It's gotta be 3 minutes elapsed time he makes his way to the table to I guess give his id to get paid then I literally see through the crowd the moment he found out he was third man on the totum pole he literally turned white as a ghost....he lost about 700 in the pot and basically got 240k ripped out of his hands.......sure he got the table share of 2100 or so but it was so classic to see this.....

240k is in my opinion a life changing score...not that u can retire but u can
Do whatever u want and take lots of time off of work....


I felt like Walking over to this guy and laugh right in his face

wiffleball whizz 06-03-2013 04:12 PM

Has anybody ever suffered a bad beat and considered it a blessing in disguise when the smoke cleared? Example u got 100 win on a 7/2 he gets taken down or nosed out now your furious and u put in a $200 pick 4 ticket out of being on tilt and it hits and pays like $1300 and u wouldn't have had it if u werent furious from the bad beat?

Those stories happen 1 time out of 350 Hahahahaha

SharpCat 06-03-2013 05:06 PM

Easy. 1994 Big Cap $500 exacta The Wicked North over Stuka.

appistappis 06-03-2013 08:56 PM

if horseracing had a bad beat jackpot I'd buy everybody here dinner every night for a year.

PhantomOnTour 06-03-2013 09:04 PM

It wasn't a bad beat - it just sucked:

Played a puny P6 ticket on the BrCup at GP (1999?) the year Cat Thief won the Classic.
It was literally a fix six style ticket...all singles until the Classic where I went a whopping 4 deep...singled Silic, Soaring Softly, Daylami, Anees (yes at 32-1) and Forestry (oops).
Never even got a call in the Classic...think I had Behrens, River Keen, Ecton Park maybe and some other sucker. I was only alive for five but it would have paid thousands and easily been the biggest score I ever had up to then.

What a letdown man...the Gods couldn't even give me a thrill for a few seconds (like the Captain Bodgit guys got in the Derby :D )...none of them even picked up their feet.

Stillriledup 06-03-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
It wasn't a bad beat - it just sucked:

Played a puny P6 ticket on the BrCup at GP (1999?) the year Cat Thief won the Classic.
It was literally a fix six style ticket...all singles until the Classic where I went a whopping 4 deep...singled Silic, Soaring Softly, Daylami, Anees (yes at 32-1) and Forestry (oops).
Never even got a call in the Classic...think I had Behrens, River Keen, Ecton Park maybe and some other sucker. I was only alive for five but it would have paid thousands and easily been the biggest score I ever had up to then.

What a letdown man...the Gods couldn't even give me a thrill for a few seconds (like the Captain Bodgit guys got in the Derby :D )...none of them even picked up their feet.

Did any of your 4 horses finish 2nd?

I know personally, when i'm alive for boatloads with a specific horse in the last leg, depending on situation, i might make an exa part wheel of some horses i'm scared of, over my big hit horse, that way if i get nailed for a fortune and the horse who does the nailing is someone i think has a shot, i might have a nice exacta for my troubles. But, it all depends on the situation and that determines if i make backup exas/tris or not.

PhantomOnTour 06-03-2013 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Did any of your 4 horses finish 2nd?

I know personally, when i'm alive for boatloads with a specific horse in the last leg, depending on situation, i might make an exa part wheel of some horses i'm scared of, over my big hit horse, that way if i get nailed for a fortune and the horse who does the nailing is someone i think has a shot, i might have a nice exacta for my troubles. But, it all depends on the situation and that determines if i make backup exas/tris or not.

None of them lifted a foot - all out of the top 4
Behind Cat Thief was Budroyale, Golden Missile and some Euro I think.

Stillriledup 06-03-2013 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour
None of them lifted a foot - all out of the top 4
Behind Cat Thief was Budroyale, Golden Missile and some Euro I think.


Geez, that's rough, you go from the high of highs thinking you have a shot at a life changer and they pull the rug out from you at the end.

thespaah 06-03-2013 10:51 PM

Two of them.....1981 Saratoga....My buddy and I were just killing it. We never bet Triples( as they were called then) but we had a just a few bucks to fart around with. We had doubles going so we decide to bet some triples.
We had 4-5-9 straight as well as boxed...
Mid stretch the 4 leads by a bunch... then the 5 by 3-4 lengths. then the 9 is third by the distance it would take to walk to Yaddo.....The 9 decides it no longer wishes to run and jumps the friggin hedge 50 yards from the wire.
We have no idea what this thing would have paid. All three were 5-1 and up.
Second one....During the days of the OTB Pick 4 on the saturday night racing from Roosevelt show..
I have the first three legs. We watch the race at my house on tv. My selection wins the 4th leg. The will pay was $1200...I am counting the cash. Stop right there pal...The judges put up an inquiry. My horse gets taken down for altering course in the stretch.. BYE BYE $1200.
The tv survived. I am not a destructive person and always think of the conseuqences. Besides, I was living at home and my mother would have found a weapon to hit me then my dad would have taken out his 7.62MM or 30.06 rifle and finished off the kid. That is why the tv came out unharmed. The only reason.

thespaah 06-03-2013 11:16 PM

To lighten things up a bit..Reverse bad beat. 1984 BC CLassic for the first time in my life I get pulled UP in a DQ.
I loved Wild Again. HP was like concrete and I thought speed would hold up.
Anyway, the "Hooded Monster" my buddy's moniker for Gate Dancer looks like he's split my exacta...Hold ALL Tickets.....I think the entire city population of Los Angeles claimed foul on each other. I thought they were gonna DQ Wild Again...I was wrong. Gate Dance got two minutes for interference( A little hockey humor there) and I walk into a 2X $168 exacta. Thank you very much!

NJ Stinks 06-04-2013 03:43 AM

First bad beat I remember. I'm in college and head for Charles Town with about $30 in my pocket. So I bet $10 to win on somebody and box two horses in an exacta. My win bet runs second at 13-1 and the other horse in my box beat him at around 9-1. I'm not letting my losing win bet get me down because with the exacta I now have gambling money! :jump:

What's that? It just got better! The jockey on the second place finisher has lodged an objection against the winner! OH BABY!!

After about 10 minutes they took down the second place finisher and placed him 4th for interference around the far turn. What the f*%#! :mad:

Not sure I even saw the film/reason for the DQ. It was around 1969 after all. (I think I would remember if I did. :( )

fiveouttasix 06-04-2013 08:35 AM

Very dangerous to do....but sometimes necessary..pairing down a pick-6 ticket.
I was young & stupid..(now old & stupid) 1992 Saratoga I lost some cash in the 1st & 2nd races, so the P6 ticket went from $144 to $72. Instead of going 2 deep, I singled the 5th leg. Of course the Horse I took off the ticket won...The P6 paid $17,000....The worst part is I have never lived it down with my A- hole track buddies..The horse I eliminated was Fourstardave "The Sultan of Saratoga"
I have been known as Five outta Six ever since! When I see one of them at the Track to this day - it's" Hey remember Fourstardave"

precocity 06-04-2013 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StillRiledUp
Geez, that's rough, you go from the high of highs thinking you have a shot at a life changer and they pull the rug out from you at the end.

had 60$ across on Budroyale he was a grinding type horse and I think he went off 20 something to 1.

precocity 06-04-2013 09:06 AM

Breeders' Cup Classic 1999


6 Cat Thief 41.00 17.00 9.60
9 Budroyale 21.20 12.80
4 Golden Missile 30.20

Final Time: 1:59.52

$2 Trifecta $39,031.20
$2 Exacta $1,209.60
$1 Superfecta $692,907.00 :eek: :eek: :eek:

Stillriledup 06-04-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by precocity
Breeders' Cup Classic 1999


6 Cat Thief 41.00 17.00 9.60
9 Budroyale 21.20 12.80
4 Golden Missile 30.20

Final Time: 1:59.52

$2 Trifecta $39,031.20
$2 Exacta $1,209.60
$1 Superfecta $692,907.00 :eek: :eek: :eek:

Do you know why that super paid so much? Because you had to bet 1 dollar to get it. No dime boxes were available. ;)

Stillriledup 06-07-2013 07:12 PM

How's this for a beat. I need Gia IsaBElla to get 4th at Hollywood in the 5th race. I save all the ground, Brice Blanc rides a good race, i'm knifing for the last check and the 6 horse, some other 30-1 shot, who was stalking and dropping back, appears, SOMEHOW, on the far outside to 'come again' and nail me for 4th.

I can't get over this type of beat, this just doesnt make any sense to me.

thespaah 06-07-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stillriledup
How's this for a beat. I need Gia IsaBElla to get 4th at Hollywood in the 5th race. I save all the ground, Brice Blanc rides a good race, i'm knifing for the last check and the 6 horse, some other 30-1 shot, who was stalking and dropping back, appears, SOMEHOW, on the far outside to 'come again' and nail me for 4th.

I can't get over this type of beat, this just doesnt make any sense to me.

Or the 7-1 shot you have leads by 5 with 100 yds to go you start that walk to the windows and while looking over your shoulder, your 7-1 shot wilts like a tomato in the hot sun and gets nailed at the wire. Worse yet, with a bad head bob....

wiffleball whizz 06-07-2013 11:01 PM

$40 win 9 pimlico today race 8........judges posted the wrong number....9 nailed him 100 percent at 4/1...he hit the superimposed wire first why have it of it don't count?!???

thespaah 06-07-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiffleball whizz
$40 win 9 pimlico today race 8........judges posted the wrong number....9 nailed him 100 percent at 4/1...he hit the superimposed wire first why have it of it don't count?!???

I don't understand..

SharpCat 06-07-2013 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiffleball whizz
$40 win 9 pimlico today race 8........judges posted the wrong number....9 nailed him 100 percent at 4/1...he hit the superimposed wire first why have it of it don't count?!???


They posted the photo for the race. He got beat by piece of paper.

Phantombridgejumpe 06-07-2013 11:18 PM

???
 
So your theory is the posted an incorrect number so they made up a photo?

Until prices go up why not make the correction?

wiffleball whizz 06-07-2013 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharpCat
They posted the photo for the race. He got beat by piece of paper.

I got right up next to the tv at pimlico and saw no space between the wire....

Walked in to watch stretch drive replay thougt 9 nailed him easy walk bask outside they take the photo down and put up the ugly 8ball....I was livid...zero space between wire and 9 In photo

Stillriledup 06-08-2013 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiffleball whizz
I got right up next to the tv at pimlico and saw no space between the wire....

Walked in to watch stretch drive replay thougt 9 nailed him easy walk bask outside they take the photo down and put up the ugly 8ball....I was livid...zero space between wire and 9 In photo

Thank god for the Bad beat thread! :ThmbUp:

JohnGalt1 06-08-2013 09:09 AM

I've had bad beats, like the $2.5 million pool pick six loss at Santa Anita years ago where my only losing horse was three lengths in front, but was passed at the finish. Winners got $72k, I got $950 for five.

But it was the horse I meant to play that lost.

But the worst bad beats are when I beat myself.

Some by missing or overlooking something in my handicapping. That's sloppy work and unacceptable to me.

But worse than that is NOT RECHECKING MY TICKET, or online ticket. Which I usually do.

Except Friday June 7th.

I played a $64 pick six ticket at AP with 2 horses in the 8th race. I meant to play the 4, 6, instead I played the 6,9. (In the pick 4 and pick five I played the 4,6,9, the 9 who I thought might win but didn't want to include it the pick six.)

You know what happened, the 4 won the 8th race and my intended pick 6 ticket won and paid $5600.

I went to the betting page of Twin Spires and saw that I made a $650 profit for the day, having won the late pick 3, pick 4 and pick five. Where the &*% is my $5600? It was then I looked at my ticket and saw the mistake.

My first example with the SA miss was a bad beat.

Yesterday's was a me-beat-me bad beat where my handicapping won.


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