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Tape Reader 02-24-2017 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall (Post 2126071)
You know as well as I do that the only day to play those options is on a Friday...:coffee:

Not so. They now have Wednesday expiration. "Time decay" is a thing of the past.

ReplayRandall 02-24-2017 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tape Reader (Post 2126079)
Not so. They now have Wednesday expiration. "Time decay" is a thing of the past.

Meant to infer that Friday is the BEST day to play this option......You agreed in the past with this post:

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...56&postcount=1

Tape Reader 02-25-2017 11:32 AM

I don’t think that they had the Wednesday expiration when I typed that. Now “Friday” comes twice a week.

AltonKelsey 02-27-2017 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tape Reader (Post 2126024)
I love the action of penny stocks.

However, for those that are interested in real leverage I would suggest SPY twice-weekly options.

Thousand percent gains are possible on almost a daily basis with limited risk.


slight exaggeration at best. and you'll lose 15 times before you cash once.

ps, is it leverage we seek or edge?

lamboguy 02-27-2017 04:54 PM

SFOR down 6% today on very light volume.

still waiting for .0087 for a re-entry

highnote 02-27-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by highnote (Post 2056036)
My prediction is that the is S&P will hit a high somewhere between 2367 and 2474 between now and January 12. That is a 10% to 15% gain over the July 14, 2016 close of 2152.

S&P closed at 2369.75 today. That is right at the low end of my prediction from July 14 and that I posted here a few months ago.

The last time I made a 6 month prediction here and posted it, I was correct about the direction of the S&P and the target price, but got the timing wrong.

I'm a little closer this time. I got the direction right and hit the low end of the target, but missed it by 5 weeks.

That's not a hole in one, but close enough for a birdie or maybe even an eagle. :)


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Originally Posted by highnote (Post 2056036)
A major "buy" indicator was triggered on July 8 when the Up Volume to Down Volume ratio on the NYSE exceeded 9 to 1. Two days later another "buy" indicator was triggered when the Up Stocks to Down Stocks ratio on the NYSE exceeded 2 to 1. This indicator is very rare, but is an extremely powerful momentum indicator. It happened 11 times from 1953 to 1993, but every time the market rose by nearly 10% over the next 6 months. The average gain was 15%. (I will calculate from 1993 to present and see if it holds true.)

The S&P closed today at 2150 -- right where it was back on July 12. Considering that September is one of the weakest months of the year. The market has plenty of upside.

The presidential election is a big factor. The market traditionally does better under democratic presidents than republicans. If Clinton wins the market should continue higher. Probably because the Fed will keep interest rates low and continue its policy of quantitative easing.

If Trump wins then all bets are off. :confused:


lamboguy 02-27-2017 05:13 PM

the equity markets have been up 12 days in a row now. if there is anything i have learned in life, anything that keeps on going straight up is usually a precursor to some type of crash, usually within a year of making these extended highs.

highnote 02-27-2017 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lamboguy (Post 2127822)
the equity markets have been up 12 days in a row now. if there is anything i have learned in life, anything that keeps on going straight up is usually a precursor to some type of crash, usually within a year of making these extended highs.

Agreed. We are getting near the top. However, the trend is your friend. I'm keeping a close eye on my portfolio and have tight stops in place.

As this slightly out of date chart shows, the S&P has gone 36 days without a 1% intra day move. It's actually up to about 50 days now.

Calm before the storm. Sell in May and go away.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau..._whatever1.jpg

AltonKelsey 02-27-2017 09:23 PM

a) cant keep going up

b) trend is your friend


Someone is guaranteed to look smart, if only for a brief moment.

highnote 02-27-2017 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AltonKelsey (Post 2127935)
a) cant keep going up

b) trend is your friend


Someone is guaranteed to look smart, if only for a brief moment.

Sometimes, nobody is wrong.

The key is knowing when to follow the wisdom of either statement.

reckless 02-27-2017 09:55 PM

It usually serves the individual well when he is a contrarian and goes against the crowd.

But said individual must also be cognizant of the fact that sometimes the crowd is simply correct. Many do not know this.

highnote 02-27-2017 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by reckless (Post 2127947)
It usually serves the individual well when he is a contrarian and goes against the crowd.

But said individual must also be cognizant of the fact that sometimes the crowd is simply correct. Many do not know this.

Agreed. Blair Hull made hundreds of millions as a trend follower.

Some of the most successful futures traders are trend followers.

I think John Henry, owner of the Boston Red Sox, made a lot of his money as a trend follower. I'd have to double-check that, though.

Parkview_Pirate 03-01-2017 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by highnote (Post 2127821)
...That's not a hole in one, but close enough for a birdie or maybe even an eagle. :)

Well, I'd give you an eagle for the direction and numbers, but even you must admit the prediction of Hillary winning the election being good for the market was - well, not so accurate. That's assuming of course that Trump winning the election would be bad for the market.

Which begs the question, did the election results really affect the market anyway?

I was completely fooled by the melt up, and was hoping to make a swing trade on the election results, assuming there would be a big move, then a bounce back. But I thought that move would occur over several days, and not several hours, as those who went long on election eve made a killing.

But the market, unlike horse racing, only goes up, down or stays the same. It's easier to be "right" about a prediction, regardless of whether or not your logic was correct. This of course happens with the ponies too - though it takes more dumb luck to stumble on the accidental winner.

So what I have learned, or the conclusion that I have reached since the election, is that the dynamics of the market are still clearly in favor of the bulls. This defies some of the fundamentals, IMHO, but as the bulls have pointed out, you can't fight the tape. I'm not sure if the money is coming in from overseas, from the Feds, or from some alien source, but the dynamics to create any selling pressure at all are obviously not present.

It will be interesting to see how the debt ceiling and budget talks go in Congress in a couple of weeks, and how the market reacts. Trump has indicated that Federal spending is "out of control", which it is, but then he talks out of the other side of his mouth and wants to increase defense and infrastructure spending AND provide a huge tax break to the middle class. Until proven otherwise, I'm assuming his arithmetic skills are along the same lines as the magical thinking Bernanke and Yellen.

AltonKelsey 03-01-2017 02:00 PM

Those SPY call options did one of those rare 15 bagger moves if you bought last night,

Easy game!

AltonKelsey 03-01-2017 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highnote (Post 2127936)
Sometimes, nobody is wrong.

The key is knowing when to follow the wisdom of either statement.

If someone can do that reliably they would eventually have all the money in the world.

Clearly, easier said than done


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