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cj 11-09-2016 06:40 PM

Breeders' Cup Wrap Up

https://www.tvg.com/blog/2016/11/09/...-breeders-cup/

Top 10 Speed Figures by Eclipse Division to date

https://timeformusblog.com/2016/11/0...-year-to-date/

mannyberrios 11-22-2016 06:06 PM

Thank you, CJ

VigorsTheGrey 11-22-2016 09:32 PM

In the turf sprint, Obviously garnered a 126, and Om garnered a 117 figure, yet the winning margin was a nose if I remember correctly... Is the large spread due to the fact that Om was a deep closer that race, and the figure is geared to pace horses...?

cj 11-22-2016 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by VigorsTheGrey
In the turf sprint, Obviously garnered a 126, and Om garnered a 117 figure, yet the winning margin was a nose if I remember correctly... Is the large spread due to the fact that Om was a deep closer that race, and the figure is geared to pace horses...?

It is because the pace was fast. There are times when closers get better figures than speed horses too, just depends on the set up.

cj 11-23-2016 10:30 PM

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Here is the chart which shows the pace and speed figures for the top three horses of the Turf Sprint. The overall figure is a mixture of the second call pace figure (half mile in this race)and the final time figure. The mix is the part that varies. Each horse's mixture is based on his figures, his early position, the distance, the surface, and the "race shape"...the race pace figure compared to the winning final time figure.

I'll be honest, don't think I've ever seen a spread as big as Om's before, and especially considering it was a sprint race. He was so far behind a pace that was a little faster than average that his overall number was docked 6 points. As a comparison, if he were a front running winner with those same pace and final time figures, he'd be docked at least 15 points.

mannyberrios 11-26-2016 01:00 PM

One question, are these speed ratings, and pace ratings universal. If a horse earned a 117 speed rating at Remington Park, does that 117 count at Aqueduct?

cj 11-26-2016 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mannyberrios
One question, are these speed ratings, and pace ratings universal. If a horse earned a 117 speed rating at Remington Park, does that 117 count at Aqueduct?

Yes. I hope this isn't related to Unbridled Mo---she stunk today regardless of what her previous figure was. The Remington Oaks has been a very strong race for all the others that exited that contest.

If it wasn't, consider that an FYI on the Remington Oaks. :)

mannyberrios 11-26-2016 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cj
Yes. I hope this isn't related to Unbridled Mo---she stunk today regardless of what her previous figure was. The Remington Oaks has been a very strong race for all the others that exited that contest.

If it wasn't, consider that an FYI on the Remington Oaks. :)

Thank you, CJ. The truth is that it was related to that 6 horse. Hahahaha, he looked much the best, but ran poorly today. Have a great day

cj 11-26-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mannyberrios
Thank you, CJ. The truth is that it was related to that 6 horse. Hahahaha, he looked much the best, but ran poorly today. Have a great day

Shippers worked out well in the Cigar :)

mannyberrios 11-26-2016 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cj
Shippers worked out well in the Cigar :)

Yessssssss, but not today, next time

cj 11-29-2016 09:02 PM


mannyberrios 11-29-2016 09:39 PM

Thank you, CJ

cj 12-13-2016 09:47 PM


FakeNameChanged 12-14-2016 07:58 AM

CJ, Does your blog work on Chrome OS? here is the message I get.

{"serverTime":"2016-12-14 12:56:52"}

cj 12-14-2016 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Whosonfirst
CJ, Does your blog work on Chrome OS? here is the message I get.

{"serverTime":"2016-12-14 12:56:52"}

Maybe TVG site was down? It came right up for me in Chrome.


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