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dilanesp 09-29-2018 06:00 PM

guess Irad doesn't have a stopwatch in his head
 
22 and change, 45 and change, 1:09 and change going 10 furlongs at Belmont?????

Mintano 09-29-2018 06:05 PM

Anyone else notice the winner looked lame after the outrider let him go to jog back to the winners circle? Outrider quickly grabbed him again and they walked the rest of the way back...

cj 09-29-2018 06:08 PM

Think that horse is pretty headstrong. He was outside the 3 though, probably could have just stayed on his flank. In any case Mendelssohn was the better horse of the two today so not sure it would have mattered.

dirty moose 09-29-2018 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dilanesp (Post 2377394)
22 and change, 45 and change, 1:09 and change going 10 furlongs at Belmont?????

Can these jocks tell the difference between 22 and 24 seconds?

Afleet 09-29-2018 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mintano (Post 2377398)
Anyone else notice the winner looked lame after the outrider let him go to jog back to the winners circle? Outrider quickly grabbed him again and they walked the rest of the way back...

he has been vanned off before. They run the piss out of that horse

Afleet 09-29-2018 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mintano (Post 2377398)
Anyone else notice the winner looked lame after the outrider let him go to jog back to the winners circle? Outrider quickly grabbed him again and they walked the rest of the way back...

that would be horrible if he broke down in the BC classic

turfnsport 09-29-2018 07:38 PM

Irad cant adapt during a race. He should have sat off Ryan under those circumstances. Doubt Violette moves on to the Classic.

bobphilo 09-29-2018 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2377406)
Think that horse is pretty headstrong. He was outside the 3 though, probably could have just stayed on his flank. In any case Mendelssohn was the better horse of the two today so not sure it would have mattered.

I think Moore tried to repeat his ride in the Travers where he hustled to the lead and then slowed. However, in the Travers Catholic Boy just tracked him and didn't try to pass him until the stretch. Stupid Ortiz had to increase the insane pace and dummy Moore chased close behind. With the top 4 finishers being in reverse order of finish at the pace calls, pace truly made the race. The pace and final figures should be very interesting.

bobphilo 09-29-2018 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dirty moose (Post 2377409)
Can these jocks tell the difference between 22 and 24 seconds?

I sometimes wonder. I think that exercise riders have a better sense of pace (clock in their head) than the hot shot jockeys.

bobphilo 09-29-2018 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2377406)
Think that horse is pretty headstrong. He was outside the 3 though, probably could have just stayed on his flank. In any case Mendelssohn was the better horse of the two today so not sure it would have mattered.

Headstrong is right. Maybe the explanation is that we had 2 need the lead speed types in a speed duel, which stretched out over 10 furlongs can be deadly.

Augenj 09-29-2018 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bobphilo (Post 2377499)
I sometimes wonder. I think that exercise riders have a better sense of pace (clock in their head) than the hot shot jockeys.

Bingo :ThmbUp:

bobphilo 09-29-2018 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by turfnsport (Post 2377464)
Irad cant adapt during a race. He should have sat off Ryan under those circumstances. Doubt Violette moves on to the Classic.

He sure didn't show that quality today. Ideally he should have stayed well back off Mendelssohn, if he kept up that pace, like the top 2 finishers. But then, maybe he was just on a horse who will not be rated.

bobphilo 09-29-2018 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2377406)
Think that horse is pretty headstrong. He was outside the 3 though, probably could have just stayed on his flank. In any case Mendelssohn was the better horse of the two today so not sure it would have mattered.

However, Mendellsohn backed off the suicidal pace in the middle stages and got a better ride pace-wise.

GMB@BP 09-29-2018 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bobphilo (Post 2377520)
However, Mendellsohn backed off the suicidal pace in the middle stages and got a better ride pace-wise.

he wasnt that far off it, at most like 2 lengths? I have not been Mendellsohns biggest fan but today he ran like a real race horse. If he is loose on the lead in the classic, given how weak the field is, wont shock me to see him in the thick of it down the stretch.

turfnsport 09-29-2018 11:42 PM

Brown was not happy with Irad's ride on Robert Bruce too.


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