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LoneF 04-11-2018 09:11 AM

Exchange wagering with Betfair
 
I don’t live in New Jersey so not too familiar with it, but until recently I was under the impression that if you did live in NJ that you could bet through the exchange on any track that was running, but apparently each individual track has to approve it before you can bet on races there using the exchange and I guess the two biggest companies that combined own a lot of tracks won’t allow exchange betting .

So I was just curious is there a decent amount of tracks that you can choose from if your able to bet on the exchange or are you stuck being only able to play a few tracks ?

biggestal99 04-11-2018 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneF (Post 2301283)
I don’t live in New Jersey so not too familiar with it, but until recently I was under the impression that if you did live in NJ that you could bet through the exchange on any track that was running, but apparently each individual track has to approve it before you can bet on races there using the exchange and I guess the two biggest companies that combined own a lot of tracks won’t allow exchange betting .

So I was just curious is there a decent amount of tracks that you can choose from if your able to bet on the exchange or are you stuck being only able to play a few tracks ?

Here are the tracks for this coming Saturday:

US Flat Tracks
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1. Parx
2. Penn National
3. Tampa Bay Downs
4. Remington Park
5. Turf Paradise
6. Charles Town
7. Hawthorne
8. Sunland Park
9. Sam Houston
10. Will Roger Downs
11. Evangeline Down

US and Canadian Harness Tracks
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1. Meadowlands
2. Freehold
3. Mowhawk
4. Fraser Downs

UK flat tracks
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1. Lingfield
2. Newcastle
3. Wolverhampton

Australia Flat tracks
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1. Randiwick
2. Caulfield

Allan

LoneF 04-11-2018 12:06 PM

Hey Allan appreciate the info. That seems like a fairly good amount of tracks to bet on.

Does anybody bet using the exchange ? And if you do than how do you like it compared to traditional betting ?

biggestal99 04-11-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneF (Post 2301331)
Hey Allan appreciate the info. That seems like a fairly good amount of tracks to bet on.

Does anybody bet using the exchange ? And if you do than how do you like it compared to traditional betting ?

Since I am the biggest advocate on Exchange wagering on this forum. You can just run a search on key words "exchange wagering" and poster is biggestal99. You will find 4 years of posts on the subject from yours truly.

I live in Jersey and bet the X on a daily basis.

Allan

AstrosFan 04-25-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2301345)
Since I am the biggest advocate on Exchange wagering on this forum. You can just run a search on key words "exchange wagering" and poster is biggestal99. You will find 4 years of posts on the subject from yours truly.

I live in Jersey and bet the X on a daily basis.

Allan

How is the handle on X wagering ?

biggestal99 04-25-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AstrosFan (Post 2307437)
How is the handle on X wagering ?

Great for uk races, 1,000,000+ Matched per race

Not so much for us races. Usually 30,000 - 50,000 on the tracks I play.

I am playing Tampa bay today. I will post the matched bets at the end of the card.

Allan

AltonKelsey 04-25-2018 11:46 AM

You can see the major ovals are scared sh**less to be on the list

green80 04-25-2018 12:06 PM

How liquid are the markets on betfair? Can you usually get better odds, even on longer shots. How much can you usually get down at these better odds?

biggestal99 04-25-2018 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AltonKelsey (Post 2307482)
You can see the major ovals are scared sh**less to be on the list

It’s stronach and Churchill, they fear the x and losing pm handle.

Smaller tracks welcome the x, knowing they will get exposure.

Allan

biggestal99 04-25-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by green80 (Post 2307490)
How liquid are the markets on betfair? Can you usually get better odds, even on longer shots. How much can you usually get down at these better odds?

In the Uk races no problem any sized bet

I will post Tampa today.



Allan

biggestal99 04-25-2018 02:45 PM

Most of Tampa is running today with 12,000-15,000 matched bets

Allan

AstrosFan 04-26-2018 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2307578)
Most of Tampa is running today with 12,000-15,000 matched bets

Allan

Does the actual track get a cut?

Mike_412 04-26-2018 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AstrosFan (Post 2307920)
Does the actual track get a cut?

Yes but the actual percentage I'm unsure of. The only number I've seen was in a DRF article about Kentucky Downs wanting to allow their races on the exchange last year. The stated percentage in the article was 2%. I'm unaware of the accuracy of that number.

The exchange is great and has changed the way I approach wagering on horses. The main disappointment for me personally is a lack of NYRA on the exchange. I had hoped after nearly 2 years of Betfair up and running in Jersey that an agreement would have been reached by now. Hopefully one day.


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