Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2408014)

Thats an extra 130,000 in purses per racing date for 2019.


Monmouth asked for 56 racing dates at monmouth (approved)


Monmouth asked for 20 racing dates in the fall at the meadowlands (not approved--subject to Meadowlands and Monmouth hashing out a deal--Harness and TB asked for some of the same dates)


Allan

Originally Posted by ronsmac (Post 2408041)

Hasn't live racing handle dropped since they've started taking sports bets?

Originally Posted by Afleet (Post 2408321)

NJ breeding industry has to be about dead. PA breeding incentives are second to none.

Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2408381)

20 mares bred in 2017. Tying Missouri and two ahead of Utah.


Those 2 years old Jersey breds races will come up a bit light at the entry box.


:)



Allan

Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2408381)

20 mares bred in 2017. Tying Missouri and two ahead of Utah.


Those 2 years old Jersey breds races will come up a bit light at the entry box.


:)



Allan

Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2442491)

Total sports betting hold for 2019 up to 2/28/2019

Meadowlands 15,000,000
Monmouth 2,700,000

Will hill sports book had a particularly tough super bowl result.

Allan

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro (Post 2373149)

Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2442491)

Total sports betting hold for 2019 up to 2/28/2019

Meadowlands 15,000,000
Monmouth 2,700,000

Will hill sports book had a particularly tough super bowl result.

Allan

Originally Posted by horses4courses (Post 2444785)

Do these numbers refer to profit, or $ amount handled in wagers?

Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2444969)

Profits.

Meadowlands (betfair) is doing very well.

Monmouth (will hill) got killed in the super bowl. They should do better with March madness.

Allan

Originally Posted by onefast99 (Post 2457900)

Those numbers you posted are a direct result of one thing, marketing. William Hill was asleep at the switch while Fanduel advertised in every major sporting event and continues to do so. Combine that with the TVG FanDuel show during football season a great marketing campaign offering a free up to $500 bet match and your so called competition is in a sleepy little NJ shore town awaiting the shore crowd to come by and bet. What Monmouth Park failed to do was market their product that failure created a monster at the Meadowlands. As more and more bettors open online accounts FanDuel will continue to crush William Hill.

Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2484309)

Total sports betting hold for 2019 up to 5.31

Meadowlands 53,400,000 huge month in May, esp on the internet side.
Monmouth 9,300,000 not the best May



Allan

Originally Posted by deelo (Post 2484955)

seen it roll across the ticker on ESPN this morning

"NJ handles more sports betting than NV for month of May"

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2509797)

Legal today in NY.
Del Largo casino opened it's sports room today at noon.

Originally Posted by Canarsie (Post 1728102)

Who are these people? Can you please provide a few links so i can educate myself. I would really like to see the quote "the judge is wrong here". Can you provide me some of your credentials so this entire conversation can be grasped better from someone who is not too smart like me.

I'm pretty amazed at your expertise considering you haven't been right on exchange (still waiting) and sports wagering. It's one thing to offer an opinion on any subject but facts need to be presented. When you declare that you're smarter than the judge and other people in the legal field some credibility needs to be shown. Just stating something isn't going to sway neutral people on this or any subject.

Originally Posted by coachv30 (Post 2518213)

I guess you have to bet BIG to win BIG....

I spent $6.00 a month ago and hit a $.10 SFC for $2400.

I put $75 last week on a two game NFL parlay that returned $$165...I just don't see where the thrill is in sports betting....that's just me though.

Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2522239)

LOL. I hate to drudge up an old argument but I will.


Judge Shipp was indeed wrong.


He wrongfully enjoined Monmouth from offering Sports wagering way back in 2014.



so says the 3rd circuit.


https://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/183550p.pdf


it has been remanded back to the district court to determine how much monmouth will collect in damages.


Allan

Originally Posted by dilanesp (Post 2522312)

That's a slightly facile rendering of what happened.

It isn't that Judge Shipp did a terrible thing or anything. Judge Shipp was acting based on the confused state of the law at the time.

However, there's a rule that says when you seek an injunction against someone, you generally have to post a bond to cover the expenses they may incur during the pendency of the injunction, if they win the case in the end. That's what happened here. It wasn't a personal comment on Judge Shipp's competence or the original injunction ruling, but a ruling that the injunction was "wrongful" in the sense that it was "later reversed", meaning that the New Jersey Thoroughbred Association gets to collect on the bond as partial compensation for the time they were subject to the injunction. It's more akin to collecting on an insurance policy.

Originally Posted by biggestal99 (Post 2522683)

LOL. Shipp wrongfully enjoined Monmouth. He was absolutely wrong on the TRO. Monmouth should have been allowed to accept sports wagers in 2014 as the case winded though the courts. TRO



Now its back at the district court to determine how much Monmouth is owed.


could be any amount the court deems necessary not just the original bond.


did you read the opinion that I posted?


Allan