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wallstplyr 05-01-2007 09:10 AM

Betting on Superfectas in the KD
 
Well, a friend and I are seriously considering betting $2,000 on strictly $1 superfectas on the KD boxing up a whole bunch of numbers (approx. 83 boxes on this bankroll). We would do our top 10 selections and mix them up along with series of boxes with some far fetched selections since anything can happen in the Derby.

Are we crazy to do so? We normally bet anywhere between $200-$700 on the KD, but this year we want to swing for the fences by focusing only on the superfectas with a $2k bankroll.

Thanks for your thoughts!:jump:

uncbossfan 05-01-2007 09:39 AM

If that was me I would go

6 x 8 x 9 x 10 = $2,058

boomman 05-01-2007 09:48 AM

Superfecta plays on the Derby
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallstplyr
Well, a friend and I are seriously considering betting $2,000 on strictly $1 superfectas on the KD boxing up a whole bunch of numbers (approx. 83 boxes on this bankroll). We would do our top 10 selections and mix them up along with series of boxes with some far fetched selections since anything can happen in the Derby.

Are we crazy to do so? We normally bet anywhere between $200-$700 on the KD, but this year we want to swing for the fences by focusing only on the superfectas with a $2k bankroll.

Thanks for your thoughts!:jump:

I agree with the poster who suggested the part wheel approach, as in this case that gives you the "best bang for your buck". Of course, in their infinite wisdom, Churchill announced that dime supers will be available AFTER the Derby, which is their vain attempt to put more $ in the superfecta pools by hanging on to the $1 minimum! WRONG Steve Sexton!! Let me say it again for you guys, but more slowly this time: T-h-e l-o-w-e-r t-h-e d-e-n-o-m-i-n-a-t-i-o-n, t-h-e- m-o-r-e- t-h-a-t- i-s w-a-g-e-r-e-d!! And if they don't believe me, ask 'em to explain what happened when Santa Anita went from the dinosaur $5 exacta miminum down to the $1 minimum several years ago! DUH! LOL:D

Boomer

Ron 05-01-2007 09:48 AM

There's 3 scenarios.


You don't hit.
You hit and it doesn't even pay $2000.
You hit and it pays big.

DirtTrack 05-01-2007 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomman
Churchill announced that dime supers will be available AFTER the Derby, which is their vain attempt to put more $ in the superfecta pools by hanging on to the $1 minimum! WRONG Steve Sexton!! Let me say it again for you guys, but more slowly this time: T-h-e l-o-w-e-r t-h-e d-e-n-o-m-i-n-a-t-i-o-n, t-h-e- m-o-r-e- t-h-a-t- i-s w-a-g-e-r-e-d!! And if they don't believe me, ask 'em to explain what happened when Santa Anita went from the dinosaur $5 exacta miminum down to the $1 minimum several years ago! DUH! LOL:D
Boomer

Boomer nailed this one :eek:

Betting from the poor mans angle for years and betting at smaller tracks I can fully attest to this theory:
Normally under the $1 min a better would bet 2 over 2 for a $4 bet or 1 over 3 for a $6 bet
Under the dime min same better is likely to bet 1 over 5 for $12 - better value for the buck

wallstplyr 05-01-2007 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncbossfan
If that was me I would go

6 x 8 x 9 x 10 = $2,058


too much of a risk to do that... there are like 10 (or even more) horses who are very capable of getting first. can't limit such a deep talent pool of horses to only 6 to get the win...

what do most experienced bettors do on big races like this? like what's the average bankroll, etc.

thanks again! :cool:

chickenhead 05-01-2007 03:08 PM

you are talking about playing "quick picks" essentially. Lottery tickets. Which is fine, but not to be confused with handicapping and wagering for a long term profit.

Good luck

Ron 05-01-2007 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallstplyr
too much of a risk to do that... there are like 10 (or even more) horses who are very capable of getting first. can't limit such a deep talent pool of horses to only 6 to get the win...

what do most experienced bettors do on big races like this? like what's the average bankroll, etc.

thanks again! :cool:

I think the most experienced players can pick the winner to be one of 6 horses.

uncbossfan 05-01-2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallstplyr
too much of a risk to do that... there are like 10 (or even more) horses who are very capable of getting first. can't limit such a deep talent pool of horses to only 6 to get the win...

what do most experienced bettors do on big races like this? like what's the average bankroll, etc.

thanks again! :cool:

Interesting - I guess that just goes to show how many differing opinions there are in the handicapping game...I thought I was going to get bashed for buying 30% of the field on top.

JPinMaryland 05-01-2007 04:23 PM

errh: 6 x 8 x 9 x 10= $4320 doesnt it?

uncbossfan 05-01-2007 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPinMaryland
errh: 6 x 8 x 9 x 10= $4320 doesnt it?

It does but if you use the same horses all the way through, you calculate it
6 x 7 x 7 x 7 = $2,058

how cliche 05-01-2007 06:15 PM


gIracing 05-01-2007 08:56 PM

I have 1 superfecta in my head that I am going to play, because it has been in my head for the last 2 weeks, it's like the race just unfolds in my head.

Other than that I am playing the race just like i would play any other race.

Edward DeVere 05-01-2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron
There's 3 scenarios.


You don't hit.
You hit and it doesn't even pay $2000.
You hit and it pays big.

And as Woody Hayes would say: "Two of 'em are bad."

Edward DeVere 05-01-2007 09:09 PM

Two thoughts immediately spring to mind:

1.) I can't see putting $2000 into the superfecta trying to hit it once.
2.) You have to hate the chances of the two favorites - Curlin and Street Sense - in order to put $2000 into the super.


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