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Blenheim 04-20-2018 10:28 PM

Kentucky Derby Workout Report
 

Racetrack Playa 04-20-2018 10:54 PM

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Video link needed . . .[/QUOTE]
:ThmbUp:good video stuff @ xbtv

http://www.xbtv.biz/video/tc18/1_ozioiyb6/

Lemon Drop Husker 04-20-2018 11:09 PM

Would be absolutely fantastic if all Workouts were housed in this single link.

Maybe a pin to the top of the Triple Crown board? :ThmbUp:

MNslappy 04-21-2018 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Racetrack Playa (Post 2305607)
:ThmbUp:good video stuff @ xbtv

http://www.xbtv.biz/video/tc18/1_ozioiyb6/

How bout the work by Audible with his mate, Patch. :ThmbUp:

BlueChip@DRF 04-21-2018 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Racetrack Playa (Post 2305607)
:ThmbUp:good video stuff @ xbtv

http://www.xbtv.biz/video/tc18/1_ozioiyb6/

Thank you!

Vinnie 04-21-2018 03:03 PM

Check out Justify today at Santa Anita (04-21) A nice 6 furlongs in 1:13 and change. What a beautiful horse and such a smooth action and way of going.

https://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/j...ril-21th-2018/

papillon 04-21-2018 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinnie (Post 2305877)
Check out Justify today at Santa Anita (04-21) A nice 6 furlongs in 1:13 and change. What a beautiful horse and such a smooth action and way of going.

https://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/j...ril-21th-2018/


Check out Rayya's work on the same tab with Abel Tasman, 6f in 1:12, fresh out of quarantine, and after a 20-30 hour flight.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...derby-and-oaks

Baffert usually works his horses fast, which this is not, and I cannot recall a single Baffert front running speed of the speed horse he has ever tried to teach rate behind horses as he is doing with Justify, esp out of the blue to a horse who has only raced 3 times in his life on the eve of the biggest race in his life.

Justify's 6f are getting slower, and his being tired carries no weight: Rayya just ran 1 3/16, twice in a row, carrying more weight than Justify ever has. I supposed now SA has lost 4 seconds, and Rayya gets some sort of hocus pocus to make her work slower and less impressive than his, when she just knocked the socks off of everyone watching. Justify dwarfs Rayya, his stride alone should have made his work faster.

He may win. He may make Secretariat look like a tin can. But he is running like a horse who is afraid of 6f. Two 1:09s in a row can do that to you, especially if given the 3 second conversion, he really ran two 1:06s.

The derby looks like it will be a merry-go-round race of basically equally fast horses, whose position going into the back stretch will be determinitive of their position in the home stretch, in which case who crosses the line first is the one furthest to the front, who hits the wall last. It seems unproductive to try to teach your horse to lose position in that scenario.

Vinnie 04-21-2018 03:55 PM

When watching his work does it appear that he is at any moment all out to you? He just goes by his workmate whenever he feels the compulsion to do so.

LoneF 04-21-2018 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by papillon (Post 2305927)
Check out Rayya's work on the same tab with Abel Tasman, 6f in 1:12, fresh out of quarantine, and after a 20-30 hour flight.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...derby-and-oaks

Baffert usually works his horses fast, which this is not, and I cannot recall a single Baffert front running speed of the speed horse he has ever tried to teach rate behind horses as he is doing with Justify, esp out of the blue to a horse who has only raced 3 times in his life on the eve of the biggest race in his life.

Justify's 6f are getting slower, and his being tired carries no weight: Rayya just ran 1 3/16, twice in a row, carrying more weight than Justify ever has. I supposed now SA has lost 4 seconds, and Rayya gets some sort of hocus pocus to make her work slower and less impressive than his, when she just knocked the socks off of everyone watching. Justify dwarfs Rayya, his stride alone should have made his work faster.

He may win. He may make Secretariat look like a tin can. But he is running like a horse who is afraid of 6f. Two 1:09s in a row can do that to you, especially if given the 3 second conversion, he really ran two 1:06s.

The derby looks like it will be a merry-go-round race of basically equally fast horses, whose position going into the back stretch will be determinitive of their position in the home stretch, in which case who crosses the line first is the one furthest to the front, who hits the wall last. It seems unproductive to try to teach your horse to lose position in that scenario.

Your going to make the true believers mad lol

Lemon Drop Husker 04-21-2018 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneF (Post 2306075)
Your going to make the true believers mad lol

You can keep trying to tell yourself that there is "multiple" Justify fanboys on this board.

Only problem is, if there ever was one, you'd lap the bunch in your Mendelssohn fanboyism.

SkunkApe 04-21-2018 06:39 PM

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MNslappy 04-21-2018 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinnie (Post 2305877)
Check out Justify today at Santa Anita (04-21) A nice 6 furlongs in 1:13 and change. What a beautiful horse and such a smooth action and way of going.

https://www.xbtv.com/video/workout/j...ril-21th-2018/

Man he looks good.

Vinnie 04-22-2018 03:24 AM

He is a Big, Beautiful Guy that travels effortlessly. No doubt that is the way that a horse is supposed to move. :)

LoneF 04-22-2018 07:03 AM

I heard Justify just got outworked by Raaya the horse Mendelssohn just crushed by 18 lengths lol

jay68802 04-22-2018 02:20 PM

If you think that the work by Justify is slow, you need to pay closer attention to the trainer. Baffert usually has a "slow" work, followed by a "typical" fast work, going into Stakes races. If you want to judge a work on this horse, wait till the next one. I don't know how far the next work will be, but it should be at, or slightly below a 12 sec clip.


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