Stillriledup |
12-27-2014 03:48 AM |
NYRA to Vegas: Pay us double
Looking like the NYRA signal in Vegas (starting on Jan 1) is a longshot at this point. NYRA wants to double the fee from approx 5-6 percent to 10-12 percent.
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Robert Goren |
12-27-2014 06:53 AM |
I would hazard a guess that Vegas is not the only ones.
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grimm7 |
12-27-2014 08:25 AM |
It's never ending nonsense for the player. Do they realize they are ruining the game with greed?
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alydar |
12-27-2014 09:42 AM |
Just curious if anyone can provide recent handle numbers, has the drop off continued?
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jballscalls |
12-27-2014 10:59 AM |
I was told a long time ago that vegas charges much more to take the signal than most everyone else. was told by former GM but this was in 2006
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Saratoga_Mike |
12-27-2014 11:10 AM |
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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Looking like the NYRA signal in Vegas (starting on Jan 1) is a longshot at this point. NYRA wants to double the fee from approx 5-6 percent to 10-12 percent.
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Do you have a link for these stats? Thx
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ReplayRandall |
12-27-2014 11:24 AM |
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Saratoga_Mike |
12-27-2014 12:03 PM |
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Originally Posted by ReplayRandall
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Thank you - NYRA (and other tracks) never should have sold their signal at such bargain-basement prices to begin with, to state the obvious
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burnsy |
12-27-2014 12:19 PM |
New "Futures" wager in Vegas:
Which track entity and region receiving the signal will have the next shut down?
Vegas, NYRA even money favorite
Field, 8-5 second choice
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therussmeister |
12-27-2014 12:55 PM |
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Originally Posted by grimm7
It's never ending nonsense for the player. Do they realize they are ruining the game with greed?
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Are you talking about LV's greed wanting NYRA's signal for only 5-6%, or NYRA's greed wanting 10-12%
Personally, I think 10-12% is about right for a bet taker that is not using simulcast revenue to subsidize live racing purses.
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Originally Posted by therussmeister
Are you talking about LV's greed wanting NYRA's signal for only 5-6%, or NYRA's greed wanting 10-12%
Personally, I think 10-12% is about right for a bet taker that is not using simulcast revenue to subsidize live racing purses.
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If you've been getting 5-6%, and business is down, who with any sense would RAISE prices? This goes against everything taught in every business school in the world.
But, this is horse racing...
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JustRalph |
12-27-2014 01:46 PM |
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Originally Posted by cj
If you've been getting 5-6%, and business is down, who with any sense would RAISE prices? This goes against everything taught in every business school in the world.
But, this is horse racing...
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you might even offer a cut........ but
This is horse racing............
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Saratoga_Mike |
12-27-2014 01:50 PM |
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Originally Posted by cj
If you've been getting 5-6%, and business is down, who with any sense would RAISE prices? This goes against everything taught in every business school in the world.
But, this is horse racing...
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I understand exactly where you're coming from, but it's always bothered me that the entity "putting on the show" was paid so little for the effort. In most businesses, the OEM (i.e., the manufacturer/creator of the product) earns a richer margin than the distributor of the product.
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Saratoga_Mike |
12-27-2014 01:53 PM |
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Originally Posted by JustRalph
you might even offer a cut........ but
This is horse racing............
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Let's say NYRA agreed with you and cut the signal price to 2.5% to Vegas casinos. What would the casinos do for their horse book customers?
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Originally Posted by Saratoga_Mike
I understand exactly where you're coming from, but it's always bothered me that the entity "putting on the show" was paid so little for the effort. In most businesses, the OEM (i.e., the manufacturer/creator of the product) earns a richer margin than the distributor of the product.
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I totally understand what they are trying to do, and I don't disagree the product was priced too low. Of course, racing is the ones that priced it at 3% to begin with so they get a lot of the blame.
It just seems an odd time to try to boost prices given that handle is in the tank. Vegas also isn't really the smartest target, they don't need racing.
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