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TheOracle 05-30-2017 07:57 AM

What happened to W I Mott -- just 3 Stakes wins since 2016
 
W I Mott has just 3 wins in Stakes races going back to April 30th, 2016

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/imag...ottbelstks.jpg


His horses aren't even hitting the board his Allowance races are just as bad

I don't like avoiding Trainers but I will have to avoid his horses in Stakes races

Prof.Factor 05-30-2017 11:56 AM

That is Belmont only stakes? At non-Belmont stakes I have him at 16% (30/187).

PaceAdvantage 05-30-2017 12:27 PM

Probably what happened was he changed his name from Bill to W I

just kidding

:pound:

TheOracle 05-30-2017 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prof.Factor (Post 2177490)
That is Belmont only stakes? At non-Belmont stakes I have him at 16% (30/187).

Hey Prof

Yes, I only have Belmont data but 16% across tracks for Stakes is still pretty low

I wish I knew what happened to his barn

n.c 05-31-2017 07:49 PM

Chad Brown dominates turf
 
so it is possible that he gets the good horses...

CincyHorseplayer 05-31-2017 08:47 PM

16% stakes wins isn't low.

whodoyoulike 05-31-2017 09:03 PM

I like your database.

Just recently, someone else was complaining about Mott and I provided some stats from Equibase where his 2017 stats ITM% and average per $ start were almost the same as his career ITM% and average $ per start. Considering the span of his career, that's still pretty good.

You can verify on the Equibase website by searching trainer.

Does anyone know where he also has a stable besides NY?

Prof.Factor 05-31-2017 10:50 PM

Kentucky .... CD/KEE not ELP

Inner Dirt 06-01-2017 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CincyHorseplayer (Post 2178143)
16% stakes wins isn't low.

No kidding, that would be average if a stakes race had an average of 6.25 entrants and I am taking a wild guess it is much higher than that.

jimmyb 06-01-2017 08:58 AM

16% against the best trainers and horses is very commendable

menifee 06-01-2017 09:13 AM

I think Mott is one of the most patient trainers I have ever seen. He really takes his time with his horses. I have a feeling come summer and fall, his horses will start doing better than so far in 2017.

Arapola 06-02-2017 04:49 PM

Bet him on his birthday at Saratoga. He usually wins one.

TheOracle 06-03-2017 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arapola (Post 2178852)
Bet him on his birthday at Saratoga. He usually wins one.

Hey Arapola

Mott has a horse entered in a Stakes race on the Turf at Belmont

9th race
#9 Good Samaritan

Let's see if he can get his 4th Stakes race win in almost a year!!!

I have my doubts!!!

TheOracle 06-04-2017 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOracle (Post 2179021)
Hey Arapola

Mott has a horse entered in a Stakes race on the Turf at Belmont

9th race
#9 Good Samaritan

Let's see if he can get his 4th Stakes race win in almost a year!!!

I have my doubts!!!


Well it looks like my suspicions were correct as #9 Good Samaritan finished 2nd and Mott has not won a Stakes race at Belmont since June 11th 2016

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/imag...emdnbeltdy.jpg

The losing streak for Mott continues as his horses have gone 0 for 18 in Stakes races at Belmont

Tough times continue for the Mott barn

n.c 06-05-2017 10:47 PM

0-8 on 3-1 and under
 
:popcorn:


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