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JustRalph 01-01-2018 04:35 PM

Scandal....Obama’s Scandals
 

davew 01-01-2018 04:45 PM

those can't be true - I remember mostpost declaring 0bama was the first scandal free president in a long time


AND Illinois has declared August 4th Barack 0bama day - (the greatest president to spend time there since Ronald Reagan)

boxcar 01-01-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRalph (Post 2256243)

Tripping on bad LSD would probably be a better experience than taking a trip down the memory lane of Obama.

mostpost 01-01-2018 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JustRalph (Post 2256243)

SOLYNDRA
Treasury Department Inspector General issued a report saying that Solyndra lied to federal officials, independent market analysts and a credit agency in order to obtain the loan guarantees.

There is no credible evidence that anyone in the administration benefitted from the loan guarantees.

Despite the Solyndra loss and a few other defaults the program has shown a profit as of 2014 of over $30B. Since I have heard no "Scandals" since, I suspect that profit has grown. Plus clean energy continues to expand.
Phony Scandal #1 debunked.

Veteran Affairs Scandal.
This is a scandal all right, but not an Obama scandal. Problems at the VA hospital have been going on forever.

The Wikipedia page on this states that six different investigations of this problem were taken after it came to light, including one by the White House.

Among the problems cited by one or more of those investigations were:
Unrealistic wait time goals.
Insufficient staffing
Migration of aging veterans to Sun Belt states causing an excess of veterans in those areas.

All of this led to VA schedulers falsifying data to appear to be meeting the goals. Then there was the lack of controls to prevent this from happening and the lack of oversight by higher officials to identify the problem.

Operation Chokepoint Scandal.
Right. The ideological difference of being opposed to money laundering.
Not surprising that Trump has ended the program. I'm sure it was hurting his pals in the payday loan industry.

davew 01-01-2018 09:05 PM

We need more people like mostpost in the schools teaching kids how to disregard FAKE news

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...y-schools.html

Tom 01-01-2018 09:57 PM

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SOLYNDRA
Treasury Department Inspector General issued a report saying that Solyndra lied to federal officials, independent market analysts and a credit agency in order to obtain the loan guarantees.
Like Obama lied to get ACA passed.
Lots of lies surround the Kenyan Kommie.

Fager Fan 01-02-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2256303)
SOLYNDRA
Treasury Department Inspector General issued a report saying that Solyndra lied to federal officials, independent market analysts and a credit agency in order to obtain the loan guarantees.

There is no credible evidence that anyone in the administration benefitted from the loan guarantees.

Despite the Solyndra loss and a few other defaults the program has shown a profit as of 2014 of over $30B. Since I have heard no "Scandals" since, I suspect that profit has grown. Plus clean energy continues to expand.
Phony Scandal #1 debunked.
.

Actually, Phony Defense debunked.

$30b profit? No way, I thought, so did some searching. As expected, you're so far off the mark that it's comical. Did you mean $30m? Even that isn't correct, though, given the interest the gov has to pay on the loan to international investors.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.82527bb119c8

davew 01-02-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fager Fan (Post 2256383)
Actually, Phony Defense debunked.

$30b profit? No way, I thought, so did some searching. As expected, you're so far off the mark that it's comical. Did you mean $30m? Even that isn't correct, though, given the interest the gov has to pay on the loan to international investors.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.82527bb119c8


Who cares about profit when you can make up for it with volume?

mostpost 01-02-2018 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fager Fan (Post 2256383)
Actually, Phony Defense debunked.

$30b profit? No way, I thought, so did some searching. As expected, you're so far off the mark that it's comical. Did you mean $30m? Even that isn't correct, though, given the interest the gov has to pay on the loan to international investors.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.82527bb119c8

Yes, $30,000,000 is correct. My Mistake on the $30B.
The same article says this; Relative to the massive scale of the loans, the program is close to breaking even either way, but there's still a difference between profit and loss.
Dawn Selak, an Energy Department spokeswoman, said the goal of the agency's loan program was "not to make a profit," but that officials were managing the program in a fiscally responsible way.
and:
While Marron rejects what he calls the agency's "spin," he essentially agrees. He says the loans were intended to encourage private-sector research into clean technology. By the government's reckoning, the loan program has prevented some 14 million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions. The fact that the loans are losing money is, in itself, "not an indictment" of the program, he said in an interview.

The fact is there were a few loans which went bad-particularly Solyndra-but there were many more which have been paid off with interest. If we lose a few million dollars, that is nothing compared to the benefits of a clean energy program.

davew 01-03-2018 12:44 AM

Million Billion Trillion Quadrillion Septillion its all relative



I wonder how many million metric tons of carbon dioxide emissions would be prevented if illegal residents did not live in the USA?

OntheRail 01-03-2018 10:41 AM

MoPo goes from 30mil in profit... to gonna breakeven... to we never expected a profit... to we knew we'd lose tons of cash... but we guesstimated the tons of hot air to be very high. Way to sqare that circle Cliff... :pound:

JustRalph 01-03-2018 01:23 PM

Obama donors absconded with millions

woodtoo 02-10-2018 01:56 PM

Obama's official campaign paid $972,000.00 to law firm Perkins Coie to fund GPSFusion Steele dossier since April 2016.
So we have FBI ?$, DNC $5.4 million Hilary $5.1 million and Obama paying $million$ for fake Russian based dossier, this adds up to collusion and obstruction by all.
Someone got rich.:pound:

boxcar 02-10-2018 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by woodtoo (Post 2274686)
Obama's official campaign paid $972,000.00 to law firm Perkins Coie to fund GPSFusion Steele dossier since April 2016.
So we have FBI ?$, DNC $5.4 million Hilary $5.1 million and Obama paying $million$ for fake Russian based dossier, this adds up to collusion and obstruction by all.
Someone got rich.:pound:

Someone, Shirely, got rich and the dimwits didn't get the result they so desperately wanted. Not much value for all that heavy spending... :coffee:

PaceAdvantage 02-10-2018 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by woodtoo (Post 2274686)
Obama's official campaign paid $972,000.00 to law firm Perkins Coie to fund GPSFusion Steele dossier since April 2016.
So we have FBI ?$, DNC $5.4 million Hilary $5.1 million and Obama paying $million$ for fake Russian based dossier, this adds up to collusion and obstruction by all.
Someone got rich.:pound:

Why were these guys so afraid of Trump back then? I thought they were all prancing around under some delusion that Hillary was a lock...but here they are paying tons of cash for some dossier...strange...guess all that deluded confidence was just a front, if they were all scrambling to pay big money for oppo research...


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