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PoloUK6108 06-10-2018 03:59 PM

He was crap. Luckily I did so bad on the undercard that I only had a small WP on him. Even without the blocker, no one was beating Justify.

Andy Asaro 06-10-2018 04:36 PM

As for Castellano’s surprising willingness to track Justify after hustling Noble Indy out of the gate, Repole said of his conversation with him:

“He decided to call an audible, and that’s not the way we wanted the race run. I am baffled by the audible.”



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Tom 06-10-2018 05:49 PM

The horse got what, a 78 TF fig?
That is roughly az 58 Beyer.

We do better than that at Finger Lakes! :lol:
Hey, Mike, I90 West, exit 44. On your left, can't miss it!
Maybe you keep up with our 3 yos.
Too bad we just stopped the 4.5 Furlong races last week.

classhandicapper 06-10-2018 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy Asaro (Post 2327742)
As for Castellano’s surprising willingness to track Justify after hustling Noble Indy out of the gate, Repole said of his conversation with him:

“He decided to call an audible, and that’s not the way we wanted the race run. I am baffled by the audible.”



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I'm not sure what he expected.

There were common connections between Noble Indy and Justify.

Did he really want and expect to use Noble Indy as a rabbit?

The thing he should potentially be mildly upset about was the ride on Vino Rosso. I know everyone is going to disagree with me "because he was going for the win", but Vino Rosso was moved prematurely trying to put pressure on Justify. That almost certainly cost him 3rd. If he rode his race and moved when he was supposed to, he gets 3rd and he might have even been in a battle for 2nd other than Gronkowski got that perfect cut the corner trip.

The very idea that you can pressure Justify and beat him that way is so comical I can't believe anyone anywhere believes it. You can pressure him and get him beat, but you will beat your own horse even worse.

You have one hope when you are in Vino Rosso's position. You ride your horse as efficiently as possible for him and you hope Justify has a bad day or someone else is stupid enough to tangle with him prematurely.

Redboard 06-10-2018 06:15 PM

It became completely obvious to Javier that Noble Indy wanted no part of out-dueling Justify in the first quarter mile. What was he supposed to do? start whipping the horse 100 times out of the gate? He made the right call.
Ridiculous.

clicknow 06-11-2018 01:02 PM

There weren't even any G1 winners in the race besides FDB.....nobody was going to beat justify. (I'm not saying that to belittle his accomplishment....he really magnificently towered over everyone else)

I had to put 2 other horses in the key spot since I was looking for a price just in case....it's horse racing, stuff happens. My brother liked Noble, so I threw him in cuz we were going to split the profit if it happened, though I had no confidence at all in Indy and never would have used him based on pedigree distance.

I expected Tenfold who I really liked to do better.

GMB@BP 06-11-2018 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by clicknow (Post 2328090)
I expected Tenfold who I really liked to do better.

Tenfold, it was too far, and I would say he had a poor trip, every decision that Santana made didnt work out for him.

I still think he can develop and win some races, though I doubt he is ever top tier.


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