Patriots vs Eagles
 

Who do you like to win the SB?

I like the Vikings, is the game on delay:)

What game? Vikings are getting killed in Philly.

Give me a line
 

Patriots have to be favorite.
Somewhere between 3.5 and 7 - total 48.


I'm wrong all the time, though. :lol:

Pats -6 is about right, I'm thinkin'

I was thinking Pats open 6.5 points favorite with an over of 51 but what do I know?

Anything over 4...and I am taking out a second mortgage on my home.

I think you're very close.
My total was too low - has to be at least 50.

I hope you guys are right. Philly had to beat Atlanta and Minnesota. New England had to beat Tennessee and Jacksonville. It almost looks too easy. I hope they get points and they probably have to for an even spread..........I'll be back in action on Philadelphia. If NE is the fave I'll take the points and the money line, vacation time is coming in February.......:D

NE has not even played a team that's this good all year long.

I mean isn't this the same game as today's early one?

Eagles are better than the Jags in all phases of the game except maybe on the ground but Belichek gets another week to prepare.

They are better in every aspect, they would be 15 point faves vs Jacksonville. They are even better on the ground because they throw short passes to their back. Jacksonville is a one trick pony on offense and Bortles can't come close to Foles. People forgot that Foles can air it out he's like the best "back up" in this league. If he was on Jacksonville, he would be the starter. That defense gave up 17 points in the playoffs and 10 of them came off turnovers vs Atlanta. Its not even close between them and Jacksonville. Turnovers are the only way i see them losing.

New England Patriots -5 1/2 total 48 1/2

this game t urns out to be a very old owner's rivalry game. Lurie is the Eagle owner and he comes from Newton,Ma. Kraft is from Brookline, Ma. those 2 high schools are one of the oldest Thanksgiving day football rivals in the country.

I just can't believe you will ever hear "The Super Bowl Winning QB, Nick Foles."

I said the same about hearing "The President of the United States, Donald Trump". But the unlikely sometimes occurs.

Apples and Oranges. POTUS keeps winning and Dick Vermiel ain't around anymore.

You got your wish, they are 5.5 underdogs. If you need help with a second mortgage my rates are avoidable.

No team could have beaten the Eagles today...and a repeat performance two weeks from now is a distinct possibility. Foles started off slowly after Wentz's injury...but he has improved steadily as he has gotten more work. Today, he was near-perfect...against the league's most stifling defense.

I'll take the Eagles against the Pats all day...especially with the spread at 5.5 points.

Bookmaker has the line Patriots -5. Seems like a lot of points, the Eagles are probably more talented, but the Patriots have often beat teams that are faster and more athletic than them. But still, the Eagles just destroyed a very good team, and the Falcons are also very talented. I bet the Eagles already but my NFL picks have been lousy this year.

Well than good luck!!

Jeff Hosteleter, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Mark Rypien, Doug Williams....

I appreciate the good wishes. :ThmbUp:

And the worst of all...the Peyton Manning of Super Bowl 50.

I agree completely.

Like I said before I see this as just a better jags team. I wouldn't bet the straight if for no other reason but Brady/Bill but you give me more than three points?

Eagle's all day.

Eagles ! Disgruntled Jets fan :lol:

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Gotta root for my boy Jim Schwartz! I think the Giants are hiring the wrong defensive coordinator to be their next coach.

Correct!! Don't understand why Schwartz wasn't hired by any team, much less the Giants.

They're going the OC route, hiring Shurmur

I know Pat Schumur is respected highly and at the margin is a 'good' hire but, the real problems with the Giants are ... (1) a bad clubhouse. A complete attitude adjustment is needed; (2) they need an offensive line that can block; (3) a running back or two with ability will help big time; (4) a young back-up for Eli Manning is required. Eli is not finished but a rookie QB from UCLA is better than what they have now.

I hope you have a lot of equity built up, the Eagles plus 5.5 is a steal. Borrow as much as you can from your friends and neighbors. Damn, rob a bank if you can get away with it. All in!

Didn't that also apply to Flacco?

Anyway, I'm feeling the Eagles in an upset.

It is a steal, for the bookmakers taking action on the Eagles! Many people are falling into the trap of betting off of one good game for Foles. Kind of like a horse running 15 points better than their lifetime best speed figure. Foles has every reason to regress and little to suggest that he is up to the task of providing the necessary leadership at QB. Philadelphia has a very good team. Solid lines both offensively and defensively. I expect a low scoring game with NE winning in a score of about 24-13. Take NE and the under. You're welcome.

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Jags-Pats: Jacksonville came out swinging and scored an early knockdown. They caught the champs dry and flat-footed. They weren't prepared to finish the fight, and the Patriots were very fortunate to win out with class and experience.


Eagles-Pats: It's a mistake to take the AFC and NFC championship rounds at face value. Eagles are not as good as they looked, Pats are not as bad as they look. Foles is the real deal, and I'm not sure that he isn't better than Wentz. I'm picking the Patriots in a snooze-fest, but I wouldn't be surprised if either team opened up early and dominated. I don't expect a close game in this Super Bowl.


Gronk: So what's the deal? Was he actually so severely concussed that he couldn't continue to play in the 2nd Half of the biggest game to date, or was it 'protocol'? If it's the latter, it is complete bullshit. Every other snap a lineman smacks his head (albeit repeatedly @ 5mph instead of once at 20). Every 5 carries a running back takes a blow to the head. Every 15 plays or so a peripheral player smacks their head into the turf while attempting to make a play... If the rules were universally enforced, we'd need 300 man rosters. If the Gronk concussion was truly unusually severe, there's NO WAY he should be allowed to play in 2 weeks!! However, something tells me he will be 'cleared'...

Its the opposite, they know every homer, chowder head and fan that can't gauge a football team will bet on Tom Brady. If you gotta squeak by Jacksonville at home and can barely stop Bortles. This team is going to be a handful for you. If Jacksonville can put you on the ropes, if Philly plays their "A" game....this will be a knock out. I already bet while i could, before the whales hammered the spread and lowered it to 5.5 almost Immediatly. They are playing to the public on Super Bowl day. Every fool that hardly bets will make a rare bet that day. It doesn't work every year but they are going to take a shit load on the Patriots in hopes they lose. But the big and smart money went in on that 7 in a flash. Regular folk don't bet right after the bell.

There's no way on Gods green earth I would lay 7 to this team after watching the season and these playoff games. NE will need their luck to even be in this one. They have not faced a team like this yet. The AFC was loaded with pretenders and bad teams. Some of them even made the playoffs. If it weren't the Patriots i would for see a blow out in this game. If they get behind like last year.......there is no coming back against this defense. Sure they can win if Philly screws up, but 7 points on an even playing field ain't going to happen. The people that got in at +7 are feeling pretty good right now. I know i am. What games do people watch? :lol:

It reminds me of the Denver vs Seattle game....."old Peyton Manning, he can't lose." He got his head handed to him and the bookies made about 20 million in Vegas. That's the goal here.

The Pats have two things no one else has. Best second half adjustments. Officiating.

This is how they pull it off! Short memories. The spread started higher and waned.


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The exact opposite of what Andy C is preaching! Thanks for nothing!

This is a good post.

I think New England has big problems in their secondary. They made Bortles look like the second coming of Joe Montana, and they compounded the problem with bad tackling.

We see so many of these Patriot comebacks, but many times, EVERYTHING has to break just right. They have to convert a 3rd and 18, they have to get a 45 yard PI penalty, they see two key Jax defenders go down with injuries late in the game, and then Amendola does a great tightrope act to come down with the ball in the end zone. I won't rehash everything from last year's Super Bowl; we already know that everything broke perfectly for them.

Philly is the better balanced team.

I agree, Patriots do get the best of outcomes but Philly is just better. This notion that Foles isn't good.........he's just gotten better in the playoffs. He pretty much smoked Atlanta too with first downs....didn't people watch that game? The guy has had two 100+ QBR's in a row and led the league with a 119.2 in 2013. He's no bum on a good team. He had a bad season on the Rams when they sucked but he's a damn better QB than people think.....heads and tails better than Bortles has ever proven. People listen to these bafoons on TV. How many bets does Terry Bradshaw win? He's on there saying he can't believe he played that good.....lol Look at his stats.....

http://www.nfl.com/player/nickfoles/2532842/careerstats

Yeah, its awful.....:lol::lol::lol:

Ditto Trent Dilfer, and even Jeff Hostetler.

All the Pats super bowls are close games. Last year they won by 6 but in OT. All the other games were 3-4 pts either way. They play these games close. Thats why to me anyway the points are attractive. Eagles and the points looks like a good bet.