Andy Asaro |
07-31-2018 09:45 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by alhattab
(Post 2349508)
I don't know enough about rules/regs but wouldn't be within the leagues' rights to negotiate for the video rights? Charging the gambling dens higher prices- which I think happens now in commercial establishments like bars- is how the leagues extract their pound(s) of flesh.
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They get paid by increased viewership.
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GMB@BP |
07-31-2018 10:58 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
(Post 2349509)
They get paid by increased viewership.
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something the NBA clearly understands
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Hambletonian |
08-01-2018 07:24 AM |
MGM becomes the first to launch mobile by the end of this week.
Wondering what the heck is up with William Hill... they were first out of the box at Monmouth but there has been precious little word as to why they have not gone live with their mobile app.
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alhattab |
08-01-2018 10:14 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
(Post 2349509)
They get paid by increased viewership.
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Understand that's one way they get paid. They want more. Is there some reason why they couldn't pursue more? The leagues control the content which would seem to put them in a strong negotiating position absent some legal or regulatory constraint. Not advocating their position just wondering if anyone knows what constraints exist that would limit the leagues from exploiting this negotiating position.
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upthecreek |
08-02-2018 08:40 AM |
DraftKings launches online wagering
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Inner Dirt |
08-02-2018 10:13 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by alhattab
(Post 2349508)
I don't know enough about rules/regs but wouldn't be within the leagues' rights to negotiate for the video rights? Charging the gambling dens higher prices- which I think happens now in commercial establishments like bars- is how the leagues extract their pound(s) of flesh.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
(Post 2349509)
They get paid by increased viewership.
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Exactly, if it wasn't for gambling late season games between teams out of the play-off race would get little viewer ship and the value of selling time slots for commercials would be pennies on the dollar. I wonder how much fantasy sports has increased viewer ship of late season meaningless games?
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upthecreek |
08-02-2018 11:11 AM |
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alhattab |
08-03-2018 10:23 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
(Post 2349509)
They get paid by increased viewership.
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According to the article upthecreek linked, the deal is worth $25 million. I presume MGM paid the NBA for the rights. If that is the case, the NBA is also getting paid for the licensing/IP. A relatively paltry amount for the NBA I guess, but they got paid nonetheless.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alhattab
(Post 2350567)
According to the article upthecreek linked, the deal is worth $25 million. I presume MGM paid the NBA for the rights. If that is the case, the NBA is also getting paid for the licensing/IP. A relatively paltry amount for the NBA I guess, but they got paid nonetheless.
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The NBA wants access to population-level data about bettors. They don't necessarily need personal information; they want to know which teams generate the most interest and other related info at the population level. That's the thing they want most I think.
The world is now about getting access to data and profiting from it.
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RunForTheRoses |
08-08-2018 12:14 PM |
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upthecreek |
08-10-2018 08:11 AM |
Sports Betting Opens Up New Possibilities for Horse Bettors
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upthecreek |
08-14-2018 02:25 PM |
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Mike_412 |
08-14-2018 04:48 PM |
Question for exchange players. Anyone think with the ability to now bet sports in Jersey tracks previously not on the exchange will now allow their races to be on it in order to compete for our gambling dollar? Probably a pipe dream that I know the answer to just frustrating that after 2 1/2 years NYRA and Keeneland are still not on it in Jersey but are in England.
Follow up question, but has anyone used the Draftkings online platform yet? If so, any pros and cons? Thanks guys.
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Hambletonian |
08-14-2018 06:08 PM |
DraftKings mobile platform is fairly well designed and offers betting on a million things. You can bet in play on pretty much everything, and you can cash out your wager at any time for a prescribed price.
Unlike FanDuel, you can bet baseball 5 inning and three inning lines, and alternate run lines up the wazzoo.
Unfortunately, the vig is excessive for money lines.
And they want you to lay 12-10 for football, which is downright criminal.
I imagine the vig will go down when they get some company on the mobile betting front. Can't imagine what is holding up William Hill....
PS
It can be a pain to use in areas with poor cell service. I live in NY and drive 15 minutes to cross the border, any bad reception can make entering wagers a hassle. It continues to check your location throughout, so you get knocked off the system again and again.
Still, better than driving to the Meds.
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Mike_412 |
08-14-2018 06:15 PM |
Thank you for the review Hambletonian much appreciated. Best of luck.
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upthecreek |
09-06-2018 02:51 PM |
New TVG show
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biggestal99 |
09-06-2018 04:46 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hambletonian
(Post 2355440)
DraftKings mobile platform is fairly well designed and offers betting on a million things. You can bet in play on pretty much everything, and you can cash out your wager at any time for a prescribed price.
Unlike FanDuel, you can bet baseball 5 inning and three inning lines, and alternate run lines up the wazzoo.
Unfortunately, the vig is excessive for money lines.
And they want you to lay 12-10 for football, which is downright criminal.
I imagine the vig will go down when they get some company on the mobile betting front. Can't imagine what is holding up William Hill....
PS
It can be a pain to use in areas with poor cell service. I live in NY and drive 15 minutes to cross the border, any bad reception can make entering wagers a hassle. It continues to check your location throughout, so you get knocked off the system again and again.
Still, better than driving to the Meds.
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Will hill finally up on line for desktop and android, still no on IOS, maybe one day.
Allan
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Mike_412 |
09-06-2018 06:10 PM |
Pretty impressed so far with the Fanduel site. Only negative is not being able to deposit and withdraw at the Meadowlands like William Hill allows you to at Monmouth.
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biggestal99 |
09-07-2018 06:27 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike_412
(Post 2366977)
Pretty impressed so far with the Fanduel site. Only negative is not being able to deposit and withdraw at the Meadowlands like William Hill allows you to at Monmouth.
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I am going next Friday for opening day for meadowlands TB. Hopefully better than last year, when they canceled x betting after the first race.
Should be a nice time. And of course I will check out betfair sportsbook there.
Fanduel such a cheesy name. I ain’t fighting fans...lol
Allan
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Mike_412 |
09-07-2018 01:27 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
(Post 2367200)
I am going next Friday for opening day for meadowlands TB. Hopefully better than last year, when they canceled x betting after the first race.
Should be a nice time. And of course I will check out betfair sportsbook there.
Fanduel such a cheesy name. I ain’t fighting fans...lol
Allan
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LOL. It's a nice book that I believe they've finished the renovations for now so should be more spacious with additional tellers. Enjoy.
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biggestal99 |
09-14-2018 08:13 AM |
Fanduel at the Meadowlands is king of the sportsbooks raking in 3,000,000 in August.
William Hill at Monmouth 800,000
Draft Kings (Resorts casino) leading in internet hold with almost 3,000,000
https://www.nj.gov/oag/ge/docs/Finan...August2018.pdf
we shall see how mush the NFL boosts income.
Allan
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Thomas Roulston |
09-14-2018 10:30 AM |
Anyone know when Freehold's sportsbook will be starting up?
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Mike_412 |
09-14-2018 01:02 PM |
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upthecreek |
09-18-2018 03:13 PM |
FanDuel refuses to pay large bet
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GMB@BP |
09-18-2018 03:29 PM |
Clearly a mistake, no sports book would pay that out. He should have taken the offer.
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thespaah |
09-18-2018 03:33 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by upthecreek
(Post 2372118)
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Not sure where I sit on this one.
Sure, the odds posted should be the odds paid.
If the booking company makes an error, they are liable.
It is not up to the one placing the wager to ask "gee, is this line correct?"....
On the other hand, it does appear the line was obviously an error, and the one making the bet could have questioned the line before making the wager. Due diligence.
Dunno.....If this individual is able to find an attorney willing to take his case, then we shall see .
My guess is the folks at fan duel should be writing new policy right about .....NOW
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GMB@BP |
09-18-2018 03:36 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by thespaah
(Post 2372126)
Not sure where I sit on this one.
Sure, the odds posted should be the odds paid.
If the booking company makes an error, they are liable.
It is not up to the one placing the wager to ask "gee, is this line correct?"....
On the other hand, it does appear the line was obviously an error, and the one making the bet could have questioned the line before making the wager. Due diligence.
Dunno.....If this individual is able to find an attorney willing to take his case, then we shall see .
My guess is the folks at fan duel should be writing new policy right about .....NOW
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he is going to lose in court.
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JerryBoyle |
09-18-2018 04:03 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by thespaah
(Post 2372126)
Not sure where I sit on this one.
Sure, the odds posted should be the odds paid.
If the booking company makes an error, they are liable.
It is not up to the one placing the wager to ask "gee, is this line correct?"....
On the other hand, it does appear the line was obviously an error, and the one making the bet could have questioned the line before making the wager. Due diligence.
Dunno.....If this individual is able to find an attorney willing to take his case, then we shall see .
My guess is the folks at fan duel should be writing new policy right about .....NOW
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No idea what SOP procedure is at sports books as I'm sure this has happened plenty of times. However, my instinct is that myself as a consumer would like to be protected from outrageous obligations in contracts (who really reads all of T&Cs), so I feel like it's reasonable for corporations to receive the same protection.
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biggestal99 |
09-19-2018 11:49 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMB@BP
(Post 2372129)
he is going to lose in court.
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House rules. Everyone agrees to them when they place a bet.
these are newbies.....I would have taken the 500 and the tickets.
Allan
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Andy Asaro |
09-20-2018 09:48 PM |
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ronsmac |
09-21-2018 06:04 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
(Post 2372465)
House rules. Everyone agrees to them when they place a bet.
these are newbies.....I would have taken the 500 and the tickets.
Allan
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You would've taken door number 2 when the big prize was behind door number 1. The first rule in negotiations, never take the 1st offer.
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Afleet |
09-21-2018 06:46 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy Asaro
(Post 2373149)
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smart; I would have sued the piss out of them
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PaceAdvantage |
09-29-2018 06:07 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Afleet
(Post 2373570)
smart; I would have sued the piss out of them
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I would have thought FanDuel would have prevailed in a lawsuit, but I guess I'm wrong since they decided to pay.
I thought courts usually sided with casinos when there is a malfunction...
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upthecreek |
10-01-2018 10:54 AM |
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biggestal99 |
10-13-2018 01:54 PM |
First month of the nfl
Meadowlands hold was 7 million
Monmouth was 2 million
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biggestal99 |
12-16-2018 01:27 PM |
Profits so far until 11/30
Meadowlands 20,000,000
Monmouth 10,000,000
Allan
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onefast99 |
12-16-2018 04:51 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by biggestal99
(Post 2407542)
Profits so far until 11/30
Meadowlands 20,000,000
Monmouth 10,000,000
Allan
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Monmouth refused to release their numbers any link for this data?
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biggestal99 |
12-18-2018 07:56 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by onefast99
(Post 2407606)
Monmouth refused to release their numbers any link for this data?
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Really surprised Monmouth doesn't release the numbers as it is public knowledge.
New Jersey Gambling enforcement releases the numbers monthly around the 12th of the month or so.
Here is the website.
https://www.nj.gov/oag/ge/swrtaxreturns.html
Allan
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biggestal99 |
12-18-2018 09:50 AM |
Also NJ Senate passed a bill yesterday allocating 50,000,000 from the general fund to the Monmouth purses per year (5 year deal--10,000,000 per year) dependent of Monmouth negotiating with the horsemen a potion of their sports betting profits to the purses also. passed the senate 40-0
Here is a copy of the bill that was passed.
https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/B...00/2992_R1.HTM
just needs assembly passage and the governors signature.
Allan
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biggestal99 |
12-18-2018 09:59 AM |
Thats an extra 130,000 in purses per racing date for 2019.
Monmouth asked for 56 racing dates at monmouth (approved)
Monmouth asked for 20 racing dates in the fall at the meadowlands (not approved--subject to Meadowlands and Monmouth hashing out a deal--Harness and TB asked for some of the same dates)
Allan
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