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boys at tosconova 05-19-2018 06:59 PM

wtg, brown...once i heard match race i was worried
 
try and win and you finish 4th,,,awesome, stupid sham performance.

cost them a lot of cash doing this

menifee 05-19-2018 07:00 PM

I love their tactics - it’s competition - trying to win the race.

Fager Fan 05-19-2018 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by boys at tosconova (Post 2318954)
try and win and you finish 4th,,,awesome, stupid sham performance.

cost them a lot of cash doing this

Sure, would've been a lot better to sit back and let Justify have an easy lead. SMH.

Fager Fan 05-19-2018 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by menifee (Post 2318955)
I love their tactics - it’s competition - trying to win the race.

Exactly. They all knew Quip wasn't in it to win it unless Justify threw a clunker, and the pace was reasonable. Good ride. If someone was so creative to have the Justify Good Magic exacta, then sorry on ya for not getting that huge payout.

PaceMasterT 05-19-2018 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by menifee (Post 2318955)
I love their tactics - it’s competition - trying to win the race.

Yep. Love it. You want to win, beat us. Too many trainers back off in Preakness and don't even run their horses.

Edit: That tactic took this race from meh. Too pretty awesome in my book.

boys at tosconova 05-19-2018 07:10 PM

brown gambled and lost big..good magic arguing the lead was pointless.

PaceMasterT 05-19-2018 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by boys at tosconova (Post 2318963)
brown gambled and lost big..good magic arguing the lead was pointless.

You know what 2nd is? Losing.

metro 05-19-2018 07:16 PM

Hope they get a dry track for the Belmont, Justify jumped some tire tracks coming out of the turn but it didn't seem to slow him down any. Smith seemed only concerned with Good Magic as he never seemed to acknowledge Ten Fold or Bravazo on his outside, even seemed to ease up a little at the wire.

cordoba 05-19-2018 07:19 PM

easy moneys

boys at tosconova 05-19-2018 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PaceMasterT (Post 2318966)
You know what 2nd is? Losing.

no, it's not. this nonsense cost them over 100k. not to mention potentially on the breeding front.

Fightingirish51195 05-19-2018 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by boys at tosconova (Post 2318981)
no, it's not. this nonsense cost them over 100k. not to mention potentially on the breeding front.

They were trying to win the race

Fightingirish51195 05-19-2018 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by menifee (Post 2318955)
I love their tactics - it’s competition - trying to win the race.

Agreed, they deserve credit. I’m not sure if anyone else had the guts to do it, or if they just couldnt

PaceMasterT 05-19-2018 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by boys at tosconova (Post 2318981)
no, it's not. this nonsense cost them over 100k. not to mention potentially on the breeding front.

Get real. You know the difference in breeder fees if you are Preakness winner and not Preakness loser? 100k for that difference is the king of overlays.

clicknow 05-19-2018 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fager Fan (Post 2318957)
They all knew Quip wasn't in it to win it

Yet Quip was apparently "pointed to this race" for quite a while?

I give GM credit for being ABLE to duel Justify like that, but not sure it was a good strategy to "make into a match race" but then again, what other choice did they have? Unless your horse has a killer closing kick, if you let a horse like Justify get too far ahead you don't catch up......

I guess I have no real opinion either way

metro 05-19-2018 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Fightingirish51195 (Post 2318988)
Agreed, they deserve credit. I’m not sure if anyone else had the guts to do it, or if they just couldnt

Thought Lukas/Contreras/Sporting Chance would be the one showing the most early speed. Have to wonder if Brown's instructions to Ortiz were to send if that one didn't make the front


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