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JustRalph 12-17-2017 10:38 PM

Trump first year
 
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/by...form=hootsuite

To even write this article is blasphemy

reckless 12-17-2017 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRalph (Post 2251678)
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/by...form=hootsuite

To even write this article is blasphemy


Donald J. Trump
, after just 12 months, is already the greatest U.S. president we've have since Ronald Reagan.

JustRalph 12-17-2017 10:59 PM

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RunForTheRoses 12-18-2017 07:20 AM

Unfortunately this has been POS doesn't get it:

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/12/13...n-u-s-history/

dkithore 12-18-2017 08:01 AM

The author of Examiner piece missed mentioning Banon.

dkithore 12-18-2017 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reckless (Post 2251684)

Donald J. Trump
, after just 12 months, is already the greatest U.S. president we've have since Ronald Reagan.

He will be incomparable, imo. He is writing a new page in American history. Go Trump!

Tom 12-18-2017 09:32 AM

Just to put things in perspective, had Hillary won, here's her list of accomplishments so far

1. Patomic River turn to blood and the fish all die
2. The Patomic then teams with frogs
3. Lica came upon the people of DC
4. Wild animals and flies are mustering along the beltway this week

fast4522 12-18-2017 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reckless (Post 2251684)

Donald J. Trump
, after just 12 months, is already the greatest U.S. president we've have since Ronald Reagan.

I see improvements that I did not expect, we have had ICE raids here in New Hampshire. Much more than just a few, turns out ICE and homeland security have gone after illegal aliens and those born here in a number of human trafficking cases. Prostitutes working off debt owed to smugglers who got them into the country. Human trafficking was something I thought was about people sold on the deep web to country's other than the United States, human trafficking has now come to small town USA. We learn more about what we wish did not happen here. My opinion is the Trump Administration is coming down hard in this area, and before President Trump things bordered on pathetic. Perhaps I have things wrong, or is there other opinions on this.

mostpost 12-18-2017 08:08 PM

Cut corporate and individual taxes.
Which will explode the deficit by $1.5T, while doing nothing to raise wages or create jobs.
Repeal the Obamacare individual mandate.
Which will cost 13,000,000 people their insurance.
Appoint a highly-respected conservative to the Supreme Court.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol:
Appoint a one-year record number of judges to the circuit courts.
Including Matthew Peterson who has never tried a case and could not answer basic question on the law asked by a Republican Senator.
Get rid of reams of unnecessary regulations.
[B]Wrong. He arbitrarily got rid of a lot of regulations with no regard as to whether they were necessary or not.[B]
Destroy ISIS.
He merely continued what Obama was doing and did not do it as well.
Approve pipeline projects and new oil drilling.
Another payoff to special interests which will have a deleterious effect on the economy.


So, yeah, Trump has done a lot of what he promised to do. The problem is he should not have done those thing.

In the meantime, he has lied more than any President in History; having already lied six times as much in ten months than Obama did in his full two terms.

He has colluded with Russia, Sexually harassed women, insulted our allies, played "chicken" with the equally unstable leader of North Korea.

zico20 12-18-2017 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2251873)
Cut corporate and individual taxes.
Which will explode the deficit by $1.5T, while doing nothing to raise wages or create jobs.
Repeal the Obamacare individual mandate.
Which will cost 13,000,000 people their insurance.
Appoint a highly-respected conservative to the Supreme Court.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol:
Appoint a one-year record number of judges to the circuit courts.
Including Matthew Peterson who has never tried a case and could not answer basic question on the law asked by a Republican Senator.
Get rid of reams of unnecessary regulations.
[B]Wrong. He arbitrarily got rid of a lot of regulations with no regard as to whether they were necessary or not.[B]
Destroy ISIS.
He merely continued what Obama was doing and did not do it as well.
Approve pipeline projects and new oil drilling.
Another payoff to special interests which will have a deleterious effect on the economy.


So, yeah, Trump has done a lot of what he promised to do. The problem is he should not have done those thing.

In the meantime, he has lied more than any President in History; having already lied six times as much in ten months than Obama did in his full two terms.

He has colluded with Russia, Sexually harassed women, insulted our allies, played "chicken" with the equally unstable leader of North Korea.

Would you please like to explain to me how 13 million people will be FORCED to lose their health care? I don't see it.

boxcar 12-18-2017 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zico20 (Post 2251874)
Would you please like to explain to me how 13 million people will be FORCED to lose their health care? I don't see it.

Trump is going to kill the ACA mandate. :lol::lol:

Greyfox 12-18-2017 08:46 PM

The performance of Trump's team has been outstanding.

Trump's personality, which has no sense of common decency, is turning off too many of the electorate.

Unfortunately for Republicans, personality will trump performance in the 2018 votes.
His popularity is far too low to expect otherwise..

zico20 12-18-2017 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxcar (Post 2251878)
Trump is going to kill the ACA mandate. :lol::lol:

And everyone who wants to have healthcare will still be able to have healthcare, so no one is going to lose coverage.

Tom 12-18-2017 10:16 PM

mostpost....the Aesop of the 21t century.

classhandicapper 12-19-2017 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greyfox (Post 2251884)
The performance of Trump's team has been outstanding.

Trump's personality, which has no sense of common decency, is turning off too many of the electorate.

Unfortunately for Republicans, personality will trump performance in the 2018 votes.
His popularity is far too low to expect otherwise..

I tend to agree with this.

I don't agree with everything Trump is doing, but I feel like most things are heading the right direction. The disagreements are about some of the details. While Obama was president I used to think he couldn't be that stupid so he must be actually trying to do damage for some greater insidious political purpose.


Where he has a problem is on the personality side. There are times he creates conflict when he should be working with those people because they can help him. He also can't handle any criticism at all. That stuff is going to hurt him.

pandy 12-19-2017 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classhandicapper (Post 2252164)
I tend to agree with this.

I don't agree with everything Trump is doing, but I feel like most things are heading the right direction. The disagreements are about some of the details. While Obama was president I used to think he couldn't be that stupid so he must be actually trying to do damage for some greater insidious political purpose.


Where he has a problem is on the personality side. There are times he creates conflict when he should be working with those people because they can help him. He also can't handle any criticism at all. That stuff is going to hurt him.

Yeah, but his personality was very much on display when he ran for President, especially when he ran for the Republican nomination, and he just kept winning.

A friend of mine just emailed us an article from Vox, one of those liberal websites, saying that the top 1% will get the biggest tax cut....wait for it...in 2027! This is the kind of spin we're going to hear. Heck, I remember when the Bush Tax Cuts started, the dems called it "tax cuts for the rich" but when Obama was President and they were in power they extended those tax cuts and said "now is not a good time to raise taxes on the middle class." Funny how it was tax cuts for the rich when Bush was President, but tax cuts for the middle class when they were in power.

elysiantraveller 12-20-2017 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pandy (Post 2252172)
Yeah, but his personality was very much on display when he ran for President, especially when he ran for the Republican nomination, and he just kept winning.

A friend of mine just emailed us an article from Vox, one of those liberal websites, saying that the top 1% will get the biggest tax cut....wait for it...in 2027! This is the kind of spin we're going to hear. Heck, I remember when the Bush Tax Cuts started, the dems called it "tax cuts for the rich" but when Obama was President and they were in power they extended those tax cuts and said "now is not a good time to raise taxes on the middle class." Funny how it was tax cuts for the rich when Bush was President, but tax cuts for the middle class when they were in power.

I used to get annoyed when they called them the Bush tax cuts. They were as much Obama's tax cuts since he made them code.

It certainly goes both ways though.

JustRalph 12-20-2017 12:46 AM


JustRalph 12-20-2017 12:49 AM

Yep.....

If the economy is roaring, my taxes are lower, I’ll throw the bum out if I don’t like his personality

Tom 12-20-2017 08:48 AM

Quote:

Yeah, but his personality was very much on display when he ran for President, especially when he ran for the Republican nomination, and he just kept winning.
Exactly.
Even if he accomplished nothing, I would vote for him for his personality alone.
Breath of fresh air after 8 years of the little piss-ant foreigner putting down America.

Let Trump be Trump!

reckless 12-20-2017 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2252181)
I used to get annoyed when they called them the Bush tax cuts. They were as much Obama's tax cuts since he made them code.

It certainly goes both ways though.

But when Democrats raised taxes, they called it investments.

And when the Democrats raised those Bush tax cuts under Obama they claimed that those tax cuts ruined the economy and we needed to raise those taxes back to pre-Bush rates, remember?

But that lie was exposed as fraudulent thanks to Obama's piss-poor economy of zero growth ... <2 % every year in our GDP.

Thanks to our great president DJT, we're on our way again as the economic engine of the world.

Tom 12-20-2017 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller View Post
I used to get annoyed when they called them the Bush tax cuts. They were as much Obama's tax cuts since he made them code.
The lefties here used to call them Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy.
They stooped that when OBama renewed them. They were more Bush's, though,, because OBama never would have made to begin with. He was forced to keep them because reality was inplay at the time - they worked.

Bottom line, the money belongs to us and WE are the ones who should have the majority of it.

As good as the new rates are, they are at least 5 times too high.
Government should not get more than 5% from anyone.

elysiantraveller 12-20-2017 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reckless (Post 2252221)
But when Democrats raised taxes, they called it investments.

And when the Democrats raised those Bush tax cuts under Obama they claimed that those tax cuts ruined the economy and we needed to raise those taxes back to pre-Bush rates, remember?

But that lie was exposed as fraudulent thanks to Obama's piss-poor economy of zero growth ... <2 % every year in our GDP.

Thanks to our great president DJT, we're on our way again as the economic engine of the world.

Pretty partisan view of what happened.

The economy tanked because the housing market collapsed. The recovery was slow due to over-regulation and lack of investor confidence.

They were tax cuts. As our deficit roars past $20 trillion dollars this century we have lowered tax rates(Bush), extended those lower rates (Bush/Obama), raised them back to where they were before for high earners (Obama), and then sweepingly lowered them again (Trump).

I get we have a spending problem but to deny we have a revenue problem is absurd as well. 47% in this country don't pay anything to the feds.

elysiantraveller 12-20-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2252224)
The lefties here used to call them Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy.

You are correct that's how they framed it because that's what they were targeting.

No one ever said elected officials are intellectually honest. ;)

mostpost 12-20-2017 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2252181)
I used to get annoyed when they called them the Bush tax cuts. They were as much Obama's tax cuts since he made them code.

It certainly goes both ways though.

The tax cuts were made in 2003. Bush was President in 2003 and for five years after that. How could they be Obama's tax cuts?

Tom 12-20-2017 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2252283)
You are correct that's how they framed it because that's what they were targeting.

No one ever said elected officials are intellectually honest. ;)

Tax cuts for the lowest bracket were 50%.

newtothegame 12-20-2017 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2252281)
Pretty partisan view of what happened.

The economy tanked because the housing market collapsed. The recovery was slow due to over-regulation and lack of investor confidence.

They were tax cuts. As our deficit roars past $20 trillion dollars this century we have lowered tax rates(Bush), extended those lower rates (Bush/Obama), raised them back to where they were before for high earners (Obama), and then sweepingly lowered them again (Trump).

I get we have a spending problem but to deny we have a revenue problem is absurd as well. 47% in this country don't pay anything to the feds.

No, its really not absurd. My, along with most other responsible people, spend at or lower then the amount of revenue I bring in. The amounts vary from person to person and most seem to be able to manage to live within their means.
The government dos NOT live by this code because its not THEIR income and IS NOT required to abide by the rules of basic math.
There are no negative consequences to them, therefore, why abide by basic rules?

If they were forced to live within basic logic and math, I would imagine we wouldn't have this exploding deficit!

mostpost 12-20-2017 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2252368)
Tax cuts for the lowest bracket were 50%.

And that 50% cut saved them a total of $600, because the change from 15% to 10% only applied to the first $12,000 dollars of earnings. The rest of the $45,000 was still taxed at 15%.

That same tax cut saved a millionaire more than $35,500 in the first year; and that does not take into account other savings.

mostpost 12-20-2017 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtothegame (Post 2252409)
No, its really not absurd. My, along with most other responsible people, spend at or lower then the amount of revenue I bring in. The amounts vary from person to person and most seem to be able to manage to live within their means.
The government dos NOT live by this code because its not THEIR income and IS NOT required to abide by the rules of basic math.
There are no negative consequences to them, therefore, why abide by basic rules?

If they were forced to live within basic logic and math, I would imagine we wouldn't have this exploding deficit!

I am amazed-and not in a good way-by people who think running a country is the same as running a household. The first is more complex than the latter by several thousand orders of magnitude.

The necessities of your household would seem to include:
Pay the rent or mortgage.
pay for food
Pay for health care
pay for the children's education
Pay for transportation
Pay for necessary repairs
Pay for clothing.

The necessities of government might include.
Pay your civilian employees.
Pay your elected officials
Pay your military employees.
Pay for transportation vehicles used by your civilian and elected officials including a big honkin' 747 used by POTUS
Pay for office space and supplies and heat and light and plumbing and upkeep on all those buildings.
Pay for tanks, artillery pieces, guns, grenades, airplanes, bombs, bullets, RPGs, bazookas, napalm, bayonets, aircraft carriers, destroyers, submarines, torpedoes.
Pay for roads, bridges, tunnels.
pay for airports, ocean ports.
Pay for TSA screeners, FBI agents and other federal officers.
Pay for a freakin' wall.

I could probably go on for pages not scratch the surface of what the Federal
government is involved in. All of which, your opinion to the contrary not withstanding, is important and necessary.

forced89 12-20-2017 07:15 PM

Trump is an ass but he is quietly doing what he said he would do re Supreme Court, Taxes, Judges, Regulations, Trade, putting Conservatives in charge of Agencies, and most important the Economy. IMO we underestimate him.

fast4522 12-20-2017 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forced89 (Post 2252449)
Trump is an ass but he is quietly doing what he said he would do re Supreme Court, Taxes, Judges, Regulations, Trade, putting Conservatives in charge of Agencies, and most important the Economy. IMO we underestimate him.

Obviously that was what he intended for the minority leaders, next year remove the filibuster and chop their heads off.

JustRalph 12-20-2017 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2252432)
I am amazed-and not in a good way-by people who think running a country is the same as running a household. The first is more complex than the latter by several thousand orders of magnitude.

The necessities of your household would seem to include:
Pay the rent or mortgage.
pay for food
Pay for health care
pay for the children's education
Pay for transportation
Pay for necessary repairs
Pay for clothing.

The necessities of government might include.
Pay your civilian employees.
Pay your elected officials
Pay your military employees.
Pay for transportation vehicles used by your civilian and elected officials including a big honkin' 747 used by POTUS
Pay for office space and supplies and heat and light and plumbing and upkeep on all those buildings.
Pay for tanks, artillery pieces, guns, grenades, airplanes, bombs, bullets, RPGs, bazookas, napalm, bayonets, aircraft carriers, destroyers, submarines, torpedoes.
Pay for roads, bridges, tunnels.
pay for airports, ocean ports.
Pay for TSA screeners, FBI agents and other federal officers.
Pay for a freakin' wall.

I could probably go on for pages not scratch the surface of what the Federal
government is involved in. All of which, your opinion to the contrary not withstanding, is important and necessary.

The definition of flummoxed. This stuffs killing you...:lol:
And Trump just raised taxes on everybody in your beloved Illinois :lol:




Lemon Drop Husker 12-21-2017 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2251873)
He has colluded with Russia, Sexually harassed women, insulted our allies, played "chicken" with the equally unstable leader of North Korea.

The only collusion that exists is with the Dems and Obama/Hillary. Thankfully, we all get to put them in our rear view mirror. (At least for now till the next worthless Dem screaming PC bullshit.)

Insulted our allies? How about putting a foot down that we won't bend over anymore. Instead of an apology tour, he told the World that we are back, and we'll be leading once again.

He isn't playing chicken with NoKo's crazy man Jong-Un. He is letting that batshit crazy man know who is in charge, and won't sit idly by while he is looking to threaten the planet with nuclear and chemical war.

Put your pussy hat in the closet Most. It is OK to be an American again.

Tom 12-21-2017 09:37 AM

His hat rejected him once he put it on.

PaceAdvantage 12-23-2017 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greyfox (Post 2251884)
The performance of Trump's team has been outstanding.

Trump's personality, which has no sense of common decency, is turning off too many of the electorate.

Unfortunately for Republicans, personality will trump performance in the 2018 votes.
His popularity is far too low to expect otherwise..

All that stuff was being counted against him BEFORE he ever won in the first place.

And yet he still won.

I wouldn't count him out just yet...if he even runs again.

Tom 12-23-2017 05:30 PM

After 4 years of Trump, things will so good we HAVE to elect a democrat, just to screw things up again so we can put Nikki Haley in the WH to fix things. :pound:

woodtoo 12-25-2017 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2253442)
After 4 years of Trump, things will so good we HAVE to elect a democrat, just to screw things up again so we can put Nikki Haley in the WH to fix things. :pound:

Nikki Haley successfully reduces over $265 million off 2016-2017 UN budget.
And bolsters support for key USA priorities. Dec.24 2017

mostpost 12-25-2017 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woodtoo (Post 2253760)
Nikki Haley successfully reduces over $265 million off 2016-2017 UN budget.
And bolsters support for key USA priorities. Dec.24 2017

What great news! Now we have even more money to give to millionaires and billionaires. In the meantime Boco Harum can abduct more school girls; ISIS can continue murdering just about anybody and atrocities can continue world wide.

davew 12-25-2017 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2253782)
What great news! Now we have even more money to give to millionaires and billionaires. In the meantime Boco Harum can abduct more school girls; ISIS can continue murdering just about anybody and atrocities can continue world wide.

at least there is no longer a muslim administration giving them weapons

I can't wait to read his $6o million book

Tom 12-25-2017 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2253782)
What great news! Now we have even more money to give to millionaires and billionaires. In the meantime Boco Harum can abduct more school girls; ISIS can continue murdering just about anybody and atrocities can continue world wide.

BS meter ringing of the wall!

Actually, satellite technology is already working on ways to spot Boco's moving campsites and coordinate attack on them. Saw in TV this week. More than OBama did, by just holding up a sign! Can you spell impudent?

And ISIS has been pretty much pushed out of most of the territory it took under
Obama.

And only an idiot would say this new tax plan benefits the middle class.

The Three Wiseless Guys - Schumer, Pelosi.....(what's your last name?):pound::pound::pound:


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