School shooting in Parkland Florida
 

Another one - senseless shooting in a school about 2:00 today.
Bodies not removed from building yet - suspect has been arrested.
Cell phone volume so high calls not getting through, so parents not knowing about their kids for a couple of hours.

So much for the day of love.
Prayers to all.

Five confirmed dead so far.Parkland is a fairly upscale community about halfway between Fort Lauderdale and Palm Beach.Suspect was identified as 19 year old Nicholas Cruz , a former student at the school described by people who knew him as "socially awkward", which seems to be a common trait with these school shooters.

17 dead.

No, life wasn't perfect back in the 50s or 60s or 70s, but kids wouldn't dream of doing what is becoming commonplace now.

There was a report on Fox News he was on the internet looking at how to build bombs and Syrian resistance web sites.

This is not a rant and at this point I offer no solutions...but...my left wing colleagues are already all over the guns and the 2nd Amendment (a total idiot I work with is now a legal scholar). Violence in movies and I guess games which I'm not too familiar with, has to be somewhat of a factor. Movies and TV shows have gotten so violent, pornographically violent that thoughts must enter the subconscious of even the most stable individual and for those on the fringe...not saying to ban anything, I'm way too libertarian for that but Hollywood does shove some vile stuff down our throats. I know there's an off switch...

Way to go!

Sue Hollywood save the world!

That fixes it as gospel, then! Anything about Antifa, Isis, or the Illuminati?

Blame pornographic films violent movies, or anything you want and it is a cop out. Underlying very systemic things are going on, I believe we are born with love of life and something has eroded and damaged some people's genome. Once a switch is flipped it may not be able to be reset. Combine drug use with poor upbringing the first seven years of life and you have something not human. And if we didn't need to get a handle on this, we want to have people already broken immigrate here so maybe not those who came first generation broken but broken kids they raised and exposed to drugs. Everything preliminary about this new monster it is not going to be good.

Parkland is an upscale community in Broward County fairly close to Coral Springs.

may be commonplace now in YOUR country, very very rare in most others.
maybe you could move to australia, but leave your guns at home.

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Where did I say that? VIP-Yes, Brains-No

Biggest school slaughter in the USA happened almost a century ago (1927)

And not with a gun...

Happening too much. A website that agrees on nothing can hopefully agree on this. Maybe it's time to for the media to stop covering it 24-7 after it happens. Report on it. Give it less attention. Treat it like a KKK rally/parade. Then again were talking about the Get the widow on set media we need dirty laundry.

I'm tired of the gun argument/mental health discussion. Everyone cares for a day then goes about their business again. Were too used to this.

It's going to happen again, sadly probably soon. I hope the media stops glorifying it....

Your correct but this one will beat like a drum. Your reference to Bath School disaster?

Yes, good thing they do not sell dynamite at sporting goods stores anymore.

This guy threatened to do this.

He wAs expelled

He walked right in

Took an hour to catch him

I’m reading on the Internet that the school cops assigned were both off campus when it happened

Somebody needs to get fired......

Yes, they were my words and not yours. I apologize.

However, anyone that cannot see the connection to violent movies and videos needs a “brain.”

It is something that be said instead of looking into a mirror.

OK, I was trying to not post too boldly...thought my words were twisted. But movies and TV the violence content has been ratcheted up. It effects me when I see the crazy stuff on the tube...and I'm normal :p

The motion picture industry glorifies violence, sex and drugs to the Nth degree. However, the rest of their content is all good...providing you can find it. :coffee:

desensitized to the shootings

but I was SHOCKED this morning when I happened to see a headline

charged with murder today??

really?

He was too cowardly to complete the suicide??

We were afraid of what our parents would do to us back then.

The original George Bush did say there was a new world order coming...and he was right...

It's well on course...getting guns out of the hands of Americans has proven a bit more difficult than was expected, but slowly and surely, it too will come to pass...

As usual with liberals it is all the gun's fault. How about we get rid of a couple hundred lunatics instead of a couple hundred million guns? It seems every one of these mass shooters left a well marked trail. We need to change a few things and become proactive instead of reactive. This kid's words and actions prior to the shooting should have got him a visit from authorities and a mental evaluation against his will. Funny how the left believes in protecting the civil liberties of lunatics and weirdos, but wants to take them away from law abiding gun owners.

Amen! These kids today, their asses are not connected to their brains anymore.

Houston , we have a problem?

https://mobile.twitter.com/MAGAPILL/...02916708347904

And yet, despite his history, and at only 18 years old, he was able to walk into a gun store and legally buy an AR-15.

He can't buy a beer until he's 21, but guns? Open for business.

There is a huge story behind this big story, so here it is: The FBI knew beforehand about this kid and that he wasn't playing with a full deck. Does anyone remember Sandy Hook in 2012? The FBI back then also had been given advance notice about the shooter. (But of course...the FBI isn't culpable in this, right?)

I was reading on he Freeper sight about member who has relatives who used to live down here in Florida and one of their kids attended Parkland a year ago. When the kid's parent told him what happened, he immediately named who the likely shooter was! (And the kid did know about the shooting before his parents told him.) So...the question here is: If this kid who attended the high school a year ago knew who the culprit was, then we have to think this shooter's social issues were pretty common knowledge.

Another question that must be asked: Has the FBI been told to stand down on these kinds of reports and just take a "wait and see" attitude because the libs love for these kinds of tragedies to happen due to the great political opportunities the present?

Yep, that's probably what happened. Trump told the FBI to stand down in these cases. We always knew he had "liberal appetites", but didn't know he'd stoop this low.

:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

Let me meme.......

No, not Trump! Obama! Sandy Hook was back in 2012. Plus it appears the FBI does pretty much does its own thing to achieve political ends. It's a rogue agency.

The gun grabbers out in full force, as expected, calling for a government based solution, when the evidence indicates the government failed at several levels in this case. Check. The flawed logic of needing more intrusion by penalizing law abiding citizens escapes me.

The media, as usual, provides no depth on the root causes of the problem, but does use the event to promote ratings. They are actually part of the problem, as the shooters are often looking to "be somebody", and get their 15 minutes of fame.

One reporter mentioned many school shootings have the perp going online and "researching" what happened at Columbine. So, gotta believe law enforcement's path to search everyone's browser is on deck. Like the VAST MAJORITY of people who look at the Columbine event on the web are guilty of something, right?

It's pretty clear the kid is unbalanced. He'll be diagnosed with some form of mental illness, and I wouldn't be surprised if he had been treated with SSRIs, and had gone off them - if so, Big Pharma and the AMA will be scurrying to sweep that under the rug. Happens to be another root cause to many mass shootings.

Trump's got the right idea that mental health is an area to explore to prevent these kinds of things, but it's the third rail from a political perspective. The cure could very easily be far, far worse than the symptoms.

In other words, life can be risky. Unless you want draconian measures like you'd find in North Korea, there's a price to pay to live in a semi-free society.

You had to bring in POTUS . Why?

The person with the bandanna on his face and the MAGA hat isn't Cruz...but who cares...fake newz rulz

Dan, how come Obama wasn't able to eliminate white supremacist hate groups?

Did he increase funding against these groups? He should have, right? He didn't make it a priority?

Why not?

Trump is an incompetent boob...Obama was/is a genius...the one real stable genius...a genius of the highest order...shouldn't he have been able to easily eliminate these white terrorists?

Serious questions, man.

It's hard to know if you're joking or being purposely obtuse, like you often are.

You're asking me why Obama didn't "eliminate" white supremacy in the US?

Jeez, I dunno. That's a very good question. :ThmbUp: :rolleyes:

I was way more afraid of my dad than the cops.

Well, you basically just stated that Trump's alleged lack of concern for white supremecists has led to this shooting...so I was just wondering how he compares to his predecessor, Obama, whom you hold in the highest regard.

I would have expected you to tell me Obama had WS on the brink of elimination, but Trump's "racist ways" have allowed them to return with a vengeance.

But we both know this isn't the case...WS has been around for countless centuries, no matter who the President was...

Your propaganda is no better or worse than the right's...yet you somehow always come off as so much more superior to them...that's what I find so comical year after year.