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FantasticDan 08-18-2017 01:06 PM

Bannon bails
 
Resigned, fired, whatever.

As long as he's gone. :ThmbUp:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/u...ite-house.html

jms62 08-18-2017 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FantasticDan (Post 2208998)
Resigned, fired, whatever.

As long as he's gone. :ThmbUp:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/18/u...ite-house.html

If Kelly and or Cohn leave we are ****ed.

elysiantraveller 08-18-2017 01:34 PM

This administration is truly a disaster...

Good thing only a few items are on the agenda when Congress gets back. :rolleyes:

FantasticDan 08-18-2017 01:42 PM


Jess Hawsen Arown 08-18-2017 01:50 PM

That's all the wackadoodles have is jokes. There is not one idea to improve the country from the nightmare of the previous 8 years among them. That is why they were disemboweled in the last election.

Clocker 08-18-2017 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2209019)
This administration is truly a disaster...

Good thing only a few items are on the agenda when Congress gets back. :rolleyes:

There are only two things that they absolutely have to do this year, they have to pass a budget and they have to raise the debt ceiling.

The budget will no doubt be taken care of with yet another continuing resolution, extending the current budget for a few months. Last I heard, the debt ceiling has to be raised by Sept. 29. That will consist of endless, pointless debates and last minute action on the last day.

They will all be so exhausted after that, they will go through the motions, actually doing nothing, until time to go home for Thanksgiving break.

Clocker 08-18-2017 02:28 PM

Coming soon to a media outlet near you, "Bannon the Barbarian".

Quote:

Steve Bannon's next moves will be all about the billionaire Mercer family. I'm told Bannon, who visited New York this week, met with Bob Mercer and together they will be a well-funded force on the outside.
  • Bannon has felt liberated since it became clear he was being pushed out, according to friends. He's told associates he has a "killing machine" in Breitbart News, and it's possible he returns to lead their editorial operation.
  • A source familiar with Breitbart's operations told me they would go "thermonuclear" against "globalists" that Bannon and his friends believe are ruining the Trump administration, and by extension, America.
  • Watch for Breitbart's Washington Editor Matt Boyle to be a central figure in this war — which has already begun — against White House officials like HR McMaster, Dina Powell, Gary Cohn, and Jared and Ivanka.



https://www.axios.com/bannons-next-move-2474479917.html

chadk66 08-18-2017 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jess Hawsen Arown (Post 2209027)
That's all the wackadoodles have is jokes. There is not one idea to improve the country from the nightmare of the previous 8 years among them. That is why they were disemboweled in the last election.

and they would start that now why?

Clocker 08-18-2017 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jess Hawsen Arown (Post 2209027)
That's all the wackadoodles have is jokes. There is not one idea to improve the country from the nightmare of the previous 8 years among them. That is why they were disemboweled in the last election.

What is a "wackadoodle"? :confused:

If that is your term for liberals, you better get used to them. They have taken over the West Wing. And don't forget that Trump was a liberal Democrat long before he became a semi-alt-right Republican.

As an article at "Conservative Review" points out, this administration started out with three factions in Trump's West Wing, each pushing their own agenda. They were the NY liberals, led by Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, the establishment GOP, led by Reince Priebus, and the nationalist populists, led by Steve Bannon.

Priebus is gone and Bannon is gone, and the West Wing is staffed by more NY liberals like Gary Cohn and Dina Powell.

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/steve-bannon-is-out-only-the-liberals-are-left

fast4522 08-18-2017 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2209019)
This administration is truly a disaster...

Good thing only a few items are on the agenda when Congress gets back. :rolleyes:

For you it is, count on what you see in your business continuing for the foreseeable future. If it is good count on that, if not count on that. Where I am we are seeing a 25% upswing, under the old administration things were FLAT. Are others here seeing a progress in percentage that they can have a number to feel good about? Go President Trump go.

RunForTheRoses 08-18-2017 08:37 PM


kingfin66 08-18-2017 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast4522 (Post 2209156)
For you it is, count on what you see in your business continuing for the foreseeable future. If it is good count on that, if not count on that. Where I am we are seeing a 25% upswing, under the old administration things were FLAT. Are others here seeing a progress in percentage that they can have a number to feel good about? Go President Trump go.

What on earth are you talking about? Seriously, I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you at this point. I am trying to parse what you said. I should clarify that I did totally understand the last line, "Go President Trump go. I fully agree. Go. Now.

fast4522 08-18-2017 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfin66 (Post 2209220)
What on earth are you talking about? Seriously, I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing with you at this point. I am trying to parse what you said. I should clarify that I did totally understand the last line, "Go President Trump go. I fully agree. Go. Now.

Is where you work doing well?

Lemon Drop Husker 08-18-2017 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2209035)
There are only two things that they absolutely have to do this year, they have to pass a budget and they have to raise the debt ceiling.

The budget will no doubt be taken care of with yet another continuing resolution, extending the current budget for a few months. Last I heard, the debt ceiling has to be raised by Sept. 29. That will consist of endless, pointless debates and last minute action on the last day.

They will all be so exhausted after that, they will go through the motions, actually doing nothing, until time to go home for Thanksgiving break.


Exhausted?

Those effng wussies on The Hill have no idea of what "exhausted" actually means.

I've worked 100 hour weeks in back-to-back weeks. I've grinded through 43 hours of straight work.

Exhausted? Those pussies on the Hill have no effing clue what "work" really is all about.

elysiantraveller 08-18-2017 11:05 PM

Amazing how no one is actually admitting the administration is in complete and total disarray.

Here is your list of people gone within the past month...

Chief of Staff
Press Secretary
Senior Advisor

Of course I'm leaving out the mooch who only made it ten days as WH Comms Director.

It would also be another thing if all these people shared similar ideologies but that can't be further from the truth. Just like the post earlier talking about how Trumps base is growing (even those the articles cited don't back up that statement). The President was right when he joked he could shoot someone and not lose a supporter but to any rational being the SS Trump is very listlessly lost at sea.

Edit) oh how could I forget both his SOS and SOD also walked back hos brilliant Korea comments as well. Wonder how long they're safe. :rolleyes:

Tom 08-18-2017 11:24 PM

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While the losers out there are whining about all the stuff that makes no difference at all unless you are a snowflake, Trump is slowing down the illegal invasion, in fact, they are starting to sneak OUT over the Canadian border, and the economy is running full steam - should break 3% and come in just under 4 this quarter...something democratic insanity was not able to do for years.

And he is doing it without the help anyone in UseLess, er, Congress.

Yeah, whine about the stupid stuff, guys.

The last guy was was the racist pig...

barahona44 08-18-2017 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2209039)
Coming soon to a media outlet near you, "Bannon the Barbarian".


https://www.axios.com/bannons-next-move-2474479917.html

Bannon going back to Briebart is just preaching to the choir.

JustRalph 08-18-2017 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast4522 (Post 2209156)
For you it is, count on what you see in your business continuing for the foreseeable future. If it is good count on that, if not count on that. Where I am we are seeing a 25% upswing, under the old administration things were FLAT. Are others here seeing a progress in percentage that they can have a number to feel good about? Go President Trump go.

Down here in Texas some are talking about 35-50% increases in sales since Trump was elected. The minute he won the election things changed. A local radio host did a show recently where business owners called in to relate their experiences. All talked about optimism.

classhandicapper 08-19-2017 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2209019)
This administration is truly a disaster...

Good thing only a few items are on the agenda when Congress gets back. :rolleyes:

I just don't see it.

Many people on the left may hate this entire list, but this is the kind of stuff he campaigned on.

1. Conservatives and libertarians loved his Supreme court selection and he got him through.

2. The economy is still doing well, jobs are being created at a rapid rate, he's out of TPP, renegotiation of NAFTA with more favorable terms for the US is getting underway, and the US manufacturing index is at a 33 year high. (notice I did not give him credit for the stock market because that's a bubble that's the Fed's fault)

3. He's been tougher on ISIS than Obama

4. He's making slow progress on illegal and other risky immigration (more resources to Homeland Security, better vetting, slowly increasing the arrest and deportation of illegal immigrant gang members etc.)

5. He's at least trying to deal with the impossible situation in North Korea instead of allowing it to fester like the last 3 presidents. So far N Korea seems to have backed down a bit.

6. He's reducing regulations on manufacturing, putting rules in place that stifle the creation of new regulations, etc...

7. Unlike his moronic predecessor, he's made it clear he thinks the police are not the bad guy and he's trying to help them.

8. There's a hiring freeze on federal employees.


Other than the Russia fiasco (which is mostly left wing and media bullsh$t), claims that he's racist (which is mostly left wing and media bullsh$t), and a failed attempt at passing a BAD healthcare package that the Senate put together, I think about 90% of everything that people are screaming about is media hype, lies, spin, BS and honest political disagreement. If you hate what he's doing, that's a political perspective, but he's slowly getting things done.

Tax reform may be complicated, but I don't see how he doesn't get TAX CUTS to pass a republican congress eventually. They may argue about which candy to give out, who to give it to, and how much, but it's still hard to reject giving out candy.

The same thing with infrastructure spending. If he's willing to send billions of dollars to California, NY, and other liberal states do you really think they are all going to say no even if they don't get to spend it exactly how they would like?

Tom 08-19-2017 04:14 PM

It is so much easier to say what they are told to say by the media.
Feeble minds are the fodder of the left.

The only chaos out there is the left- worst political shape since the 1920s. Trump threw water on the wicked witch and the flying monkeys are in a tizzy.

OOOOO eeee OOOOO

NJ Stinks 08-19-2017 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classhandicapper (Post 2209491)
Other than the Russia fiasco (which is mostly left wing and media bullsh$t), claims that he's racist (which is mostly left wing and media bullsh$t), and a failed attempt at passing a BAD healthcare package that the Senate put together, I think about 90% of everything that people are screaming about is media hype, lies, spin, BS and honest political disagreement.

Of course, "media hype, lies, spin, BS and honest political disagreement" is at least 90% of everything people are screaming about. In fact, I have no idea what you think the other 10% is.

You know what is crazy, Classy. For 8 years you kept saying you were ready to leave the country because everything was just too depressing. Now we get a flake running the show and you see nothing but blue skies and rainbows.

davew 08-19-2017 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2209262)
Amazing how no one is actually admitting the administration is in complete and total disarray.

Here is your list of people gone within the past month...

Chief of Staff
Press Secretary
Senior Advisor

Of course I'm leaving out the mooch who only made it ten days as WH Comms Director.

It would also be another thing if all these people shared similar ideologies but that can't be further from the truth. Just like the post earlier talking about how Trumps base is growing (even those the articles cited don't back up that statement). The President was right when he joked he could shoot someone and not lose a supporter but to any rational being the SS Trump is very listlessly lost at sea.

Edit) oh how could I forget both his SOS and SOD also walked back hos brilliant Korea comments as well. Wonder how long they're safe. :rolleyes:

Just because people leave because their job is done does not mean the administration is in disarray (as opposed to a previous administration that just lied when they screwed up and nobody was ever fired). Bannon signed up for 8-12 months, and spent more than 12 months with the campaign/early presidency. He will be able to do more to help 'drain the swamp' back with Breitbart News.

fast4522 08-19-2017 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davew (Post 2209592)
Just because people leave because their job is done does not mean the administration is in disarray (as opposed to a previous administration that just lied when they screwed up and nobody was ever fired). Bannon signed up for 8-12 months, and spent more than 12 months with the campaign/early presidency. He will be able to do more to help 'drain the swamp' back with Breitbart News.

That is so right, his job (charter) was done. There is no doubt in my mind that the minority leaders in both chambers are now on Stephen K. Bannon's destroy list. Political careers of RINO's are also in danger, and those who would put our civil liberty's in danger. Watch Mr Stephen K. Bannon crusade against those who oppose the President.

NJ Stinks 08-19-2017 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast4522 (Post 2209725)
There is no doubt in my mind that the minority leaders in both chambers are now on Stephen K. Bannon's destroy list. Political careers of RINO's are also in danger, and those who would put our civil liberty's in danger. Watch Mr Stephen K. Bannon crusade against those who oppose the President.

Spelling out "Stephen K. Bannon" reminds me of another iconic figure who was revered by more than a few -

"Alfred E. Neuman" :jump::jump:

fast4522 08-19-2017 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks (Post 2209754)
Spelling out "Stephen K. Bannon" reminds me of another iconic figure who was revered by more than a few

I often copy and paste from Wikipedia to include exact name including middle.

I am consistent for our President, previous Presidents, our current Attorney General and so on. Not because of revered of anything, just consistent.

ReplayRandall 08-19-2017 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJ Stinks (Post 2209754)
Spelling out "Stephen K. Bannon" reminds me of another iconic figure who was revered by more than a few -

"Alfred E. Neuman" :jump::jump:

Nah......More like "Colonel Nathan R. Jessup"... Give all the extremists a CODE RED.. :popcorn:

kingfin66 08-20-2017 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast4522 (Post 2209725)
That is so right, his job (charter) was done. There is no doubt in my mind that the minority leaders in both chambers are now on Stephen K. Bannon's destroy list. Political careers of RINO's are also in danger, and those who would put our civil liberty's in danger. Watch Mr Stephen K. Bannon crusade against those who oppose the President.

I just don't think that you get it fast4522, the RINOs, who I take to mean the traditional Republicans, have won. They will moderate Trump. Bannon is fringe; always was, always will be.

elysiantraveller 08-20-2017 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfin66 (Post 2209777)
I just don't think that you get it fast4522, the RINOs, who I take to mean the traditional Republicans, have won. They will moderate Trump. Bannon is fringe; always was, always will be.

Yup, Bannon was the anti-globalist in the administration.

He gone now.

chadk66 08-20-2017 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2209099)
What is a "wackadoodle"? :confused:

If that is your term for liberals, you better get used to them. They have taken over the West Wing. And don't forget that Trump was a liberal Democrat long before he became a semi-alt-right Republican.

As an article at "Conservative Review" points out, this administration started out with three factions in Trump's West Wing, each pushing their own agenda. They were the NY liberals, led by Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, the establishment GOP, led by Reince Priebus, and the nationalist populists, led by Steve Bannon.

Priebus is gone and Bannon is gone, and the West Wing is staffed by more NY liberals like Gary Cohn and Dina Powell.

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/steve-bannon-is-out-only-the-liberals-are-left

wackadoodle is a cross dressing poodle

chadk66 08-20-2017 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRalph (Post 2209273)
Down here in Texas some are talking about 35-50% increases in sales since Trump was elected. The minute he won the election things changed. A local radio host did a show recently where business owners called in to relate their experiences. All talked about optimism.

same here in ND. oil field took off again soon as he was elected. these company heads aren't fools

fast4522 08-20-2017 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2209806)
Yup, Bannon was the anti-globalist in the administration.

He gone now.



You don't get it, half the country is the anti-globalist. The guy who lives next door to you is against your views. It is just too easy to think we are falling apart here on this BBS when the truth is President Trump exposed and took advantage of a very deep chasm inside the democratic party and blew it up. If you think that it has gone away your a bigger fool than your posts suggest. This whole Russia thing is nothing more than inept and incompetent democrats who let people into their data and inner circle letting dark forces show exactly what idiots they are. Looking forward to more of your posts, why don't you switch to Robert E. Lee statues needing to be removed because the Russia stuff is falling apart.

fast4522 08-20-2017 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfin66 (Post 2209777)
I just don't think that you get it fast4522, the RINOs, who I take to mean the traditional Republicans, have won. They will moderate Trump. Bannon is fringe; always was, always will be.

The agenda of the President will destroy many a RINO and the players will constantly move about the board, going forward more democrat governors will lose and some very high profile lawmakers will see demise for doing absolutely nothing.

Tom 08-20-2017 09:52 AM

The RINOS are democrats without the balls to admit it.
I hope Bannon gets down and dirty in his war on them.
I will applaud his every move.

Take off the gloves and expose those worthless people - start with McCain. Fry his useless ass. Think of him as a supermarket french frie. Go low.:popcorn:

Clocker 08-20-2017 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast4522 (Post 2209816)
You don't get it, half the country is the anti-globalist.

And at least half the country doesn't understand globalism.

Quote:

The U.S. has lost 5 million factory jobs since 2000. And trade has indeed claimed production jobs - in particular when China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001. Nevertheless, there was no downturn in U.S. manufacturing output. As a matter of fact, U.S. production has been growing over the last decades. From 2006 to 2013, “manufacturing grew by 17.6%, or at roughly 2.2% per year,” according to a report from Ball State University. The study reports as well that trade accounted for 13% of the lost U.S. factory jobs, but 88% of the jobs were taken by robots and other factors at home.
As an example, Adidas, the big German shoe company, recently announced that they are phasing out production in China and are building two new plants, one in Germany and one in the US. Production in both plants will be totally automated.

http://fortune.com/2016/11/08/china-automation-jobs/

jms62 08-20-2017 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clocker (Post 2209836)
And at least half the country doesn't understand globalism.

As an example, Adidas, the big German shoe company, recently announced that they are phasing out production in China and are building two new plants, one in Germany and one in the US. Production in both plants will be totally automated.

http://fortune.com/2016/11/08/china-automation-jobs/

Which means there will be a minimal amount of jobs and those that there will be probably will be manned by an H1B Visa holder. Donald did nothing to end this program back in April just like Obama and Bush before him. The lobbying dollars where just too intoxicating to them.

reckless 08-20-2017 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfin66 (Post 2209777)
I just don't think that you get it fast4522, the RINOs, who I take to mean the traditional Republicans, have won. They will moderate Trump. Bannon is fringe; always was, always will be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2209806)
Yup, Bannon was the anti-globalist in the administration.

He gone now.

I read an interesting article last week by Roger Stone. Think what you want of the guy but Stone is an extremely savvy guy with very sharp political instincts.

Makes you think twice about who is Steve Bannon. Enjoy.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/17/bannons-time-is-up/

davew 08-20-2017 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2209827)
The RINOS are democrats without the balls to admit it.
I hope Bannon gets down and dirty in his war on them.
I will applaud his every move.

Take off the gloves and expose those worthless people - start with McCain. Fry his useless ass. Think of him as a supermarket french frie. Go low.:popcorn:

If he lives that long, McCain could do better with a Democrat presidential campaign.

elysiantraveller 08-20-2017 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast4522 (Post 2209816)
You don't get it, half the country is the anti-globalist. The guy who lives next door to you is against your views. It is just too easy to think we are falling apart here on this BBS when the truth is President Trump exposed and took advantage of a very deep chasm inside the democratic party and blew it up. If you think that it has gone away your a bigger fool than your posts suggest. This whole Russia thing is nothing more than inept and incompetent democrats who let people into their data and inner circle letting dark forces show exactly what idiots they are. Looking forward to more of your posts, why don't you switch to Robert E. Lee statues needing to be removed because the Russia stuff is falling apart.

What I'm pointing out is that the largest anti-globalist in the administration is now gone. Replaces with establishment politicians of a very moderate ilk. This isn't hyperbole like your post this is a fact that people of your persuasion should be upset about instead of trying to explain it away.

As far as globalism... clocker addressed it with his post and regardless of your opinion on globalist; good, and, or indifferent it's here to say. Markets are stronger than governments.

Clocker 08-20-2017 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2209908)
What I'm pointing out is that the largest anti-globalist in the administration is now gone.

And perhaps the last one. Bannon and Priebus (one of the few Establishment GOP people left in the West Wing) put aside their differences to work together to oppose the globalists. Both are gone, and the globalists are on top. At least until the next round of Trump Tweets.

Quote:

But there was another power base to deal with: Ivanka Trump and Kushner, who both have formal White House roles. They are among numerous people from the metro New York area who joined Trump in colonising Washington, including Michael Anton, Kellyanne Conway, Gary Cohn, Jason Greenblatt, Hope Hicks, Josh Raffel, Steven Mnuchin, Dan Scavino Jr, Keith Schiller, Dina Powell and Wilbur Ross.

Broadly speaking, the New Yorkers form a “globalist-Goldman Sachs” wing that favours international trade deals, in stark opposition to the “populist-nationalist” wing featuring Bannon, Stephen Miller and Sebastian Gorka that champions “America first”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...hner-what-next

Quote:

Markets are stronger than governments.
And most people who argue against globalism with their words vote for it with their wallets.

fast4522 08-20-2017 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elysiantraveller (Post 2209908)
What I'm pointing out is that the largest anti-globalist in the administration is now gone. Replaces with establishment politicians of a very moderate ilk. This isn't hyperbole like your post this is a fact that people of your persuasion should be upset about instead of trying to explain it away.

As far as globalism... clocker addressed it with his post and regardless of your opinion on globalist; good, and, or indifferent it's here to say. Markets are stronger than governments.

If we have a choice of robots manufacturing product in Canada or inside the United States, screw Canada we can do it here for the same cost and price points. They will be forced to sell their soft lumber products to our factory's even leaner price points or kill themselves trying to sell into mainland China. We hold all the picture cards, who get hurt is none of our affair. The potential for 3,4,5 % growth for our economy is huge, the really big bucks can shift without any interruption. If your heavy invested into today's global you better start shifting now, you do not believe your defense is that it is a gamble anyway. Same things about Mexico, heavy automation better here than that fly trap. We will all see which way policy plays.


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