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thebeacondeacon 06-11-2018 07:32 PM

Technical Reliability of Race Books
 
Does anyone have some recommendations as to the most technically reliable and efficient offshore race books?

I love the bonuses and rebates at my main squeeze, 5 Dimes, but all too frequently, they drop off line when I have a bet to make, like just before post time, or they time out between races, and I have to repeatedly log in and they somehow loose track of my login credentials.

I would like to find a more stable race book (no pun intended), that does not present technical issues like these.

Thanks,

thebeacondeacon

ubercapper 06-12-2018 10:00 AM

I don't have a recommendation but in case you did not know, most race books do not commingle wagers with U.S. pools and therefore don't provide a single penny to the industry nor support racing in any way.

thebeacondeacon 06-12-2018 03:31 PM

ubercapper,

Thanks for your reply.

I like it best, when I can go a race track that is within driving distance, or my local OTB. However, I travel abroad quite a bit, and to paraphrase that great Xpressbet commercial, without a solid offshore race book, life can get in the way of a good bet. :pout:

Good luck to you.

thebeacondeacon

Dave Schwartz 06-12-2018 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thebeacondeacon (Post 2328522)
ubercapper,

Thanks for your reply.

I like it best, when I can go a race track that is within driving distance, or my local OTB. However, I travel abroad quite a bit, and to paraphrase that great Xpressbet commercial, without a solid offshore race book, life can get in the way of a good bet. :pout:

Good luck to you.

thebeacondeacon

Do you live in a state that prevents you from playing with an ADW that co-mingles?

Otherwise, perhaps give one of them a try.

thaskalos 06-12-2018 05:39 PM

Since you travel abroad so frequently...perhaps you can convince an offshore friend to open a Pinnaclesports account for you, in his name.

Fox 06-12-2018 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaskalos (Post 2328558)
Since you travel abroad so frequently...perhaps you can convince an offshore friend to open a Pinnaclesports account for you, in his name.

I’m pretty sure Pinnacle has not taken any horse bets for over a decade now. The only thing they’ll offer is some props and match races on the big events.

pandy 06-13-2018 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebeacondeacon (Post 2328199)
Does anyone have some recommendations as to the most technically reliable and efficient offshore race books?

I love the bonuses and rebates at my main squeeze, 5 Dimes, but all too frequently, they drop off line when I have a bet to make, like just before post time, or they time out between races, and I have to repeatedly log in and they somehow loose track of my login credentials.

I would like to find a more stable race book (no pun intended), that does not present technical issues like these.

Thanks,

thebeacondeacon

bookmaker and bovada have both been in business for a long time

davew 06-13-2018 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubercapper (Post 2328401)
I don't have a recommendation but in case you did not know, most race books do not commingle wagers with U.S. pools and therefore don't provide a single penny to the industry nor support racing in any way.

I suspect they do put money in pools piggybacking some accounts.

Do these countries you visit block internet access to Xpressbet, Twinspires, other ADWs?

Most racebooks have max pay-offs...

WP1981 06-13-2018 04:19 PM

I have been using Bovada more and more since the server issues at 5dimes keep happening. 5dimes also takes about a week to cashout via bitcoin, etc. Bovada cashes within a few hours and offers deposit bonuses, rebate on total action (3% wps, 8% exotic), a 9% bonus on losses and a really good rewards program that earns you cash at the same time.

My one and only issue with them is the software. 5dimes has the easy pending wager screen that you can screenshot, with Bovada it is a nicer set up but impossible to see all the wagers on one screen.

ubercapper 06-15-2018 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davew (Post 2328719)
I suspect they do put money in pools piggybacking some accounts.

Do these countries you visit block internet access to Xpressbet, Twinspires, other ADWs?

Most racebooks have max pay-offs...


By piggybacking, do you mean off loading some action to reduce exposure?

thaskalos 06-15-2018 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubercapper (Post 2329485)
By piggybacking, do you mean off loading some action to reduce exposure?

He means that the offshore betting outfits might be flagging their profitable customers and piggybacking on their selections...in order to "reduce exposure"...or even to secure a little added profit for themselves.

Dave Schwartz 06-15-2018 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaskalos (Post 2329529)
He means that the offshore betting outfits might be flagging their profitable customers and piggybacking on their selections...in order to "reduce exposure"...or even to secure a little added profit for themselves.

:ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

It is "laying off bets," as has been practiced for decades. In this case it is "selective" layoffs.

cj 06-15-2018 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz (Post 2329534)
:ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

It is "laying off bets," as has been practiced for decades. In this case it is "selective" layoffs.

Doesn't have to be off shore either for piggy backing. Hopefully it doesn't happen but any guy with database access for an ADW could do it.

AltonKelsey 06-15-2018 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2329541)
Doesn't have to be off shore either for piggy backing. Hopefully it doesn't happen but any guy with database access for an ADW could do it.


This is true, but would be very bad for biz if it was discovered. And a smart player would figure it out eventually, unless it was for very small money.



I'll bet 99% of the 'layoff' is book balancing.



Also probably accounts for a lot of the last flash bs , though I've never seen anyone mention it.


Until now.

thebeacondeacon 06-16-2018 02:46 AM

My thanks to everyone who replied.

All the best,
thebeacondeacon


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