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ubercapper 03-11-2024 04:31 PM

Full 2023 Dataset available at no charge
 
Equibase announced today the availability of a complimentary dataset with a full year of past performance data and corresponding results charts for development, research, and evaluation purposes. The dataset will include all racing information for the 2023 calendar year with the appropriate supporting documentation

Here's the link to the announcement:

https://www.equibase.com/content/new...124release.cfm

Here's the link to the registration form:

https://www.equibase.com/handicappersdata.cfm





To the mods - if this is better suited to another section please let me know or feel free to move it.

classhandicapper 03-11-2024 04:56 PM

Thanks.

There should be some useful information in that data.

sjk 03-12-2024 01:21 PM

Hard to say whether someone from a standing start would have a good chance to catch and beat the CAW teams. It would be a daunting task unlike 30 years ago when getting something out of the data was very doable.

It has come to whether it is really not worth the time to see if there are any plays. I skipped the weekend for about the first time in thirty years and haven't looked at it yesterday or today either. Maybe I am retired.

denniswilliams 03-12-2024 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjk (Post 2933477)
Hard to say whether someone from a standing start would have a good chance to catch and beat the CAW teams. It would be a daunting task unlike 30 years ago when getting something out of the data was very doable.

It has come to whether it is really not worth the time to see if there are any plays. I skipped the weekend for about the first time in thirty years and haven't looked at it yesterday or today either. Maybe I am retired.


You mean nonsense like this 'How Do You Use Trainer and Jockey Win% & ITM% ?' won't work? :lol::lol:



Just the way spatial (and visual) data revolutionized NBA data analytics, GPS data will revolutionize horse racing.



I doubt that GPS data is part of the free package, however.



I get a kick out of Equibase. For years, they're been guarding their data like it was the key to continued human existence. Now they offer 'free' data' but only if you give them your personal data.



And I particularly like how if you look at more 2 or 3 results charts in any given session, they start with the 'prove you're human' tests.

classhandicapper 03-12-2024 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sjk (Post 2933477)
Hard to say whether someone from a standing start would have a good chance to catch and beat the CAW teams. It would be a daunting task unlike 30 years ago when getting something out of the data was very doable.

It has come to whether it is really not worth the time to see if there are any plays. I skipped the weekend for about the first time in thirty years and haven't looked at it yesterday or today either. Maybe I am retired.

If there's any hope, it's going to be in identifying things that are difficult for computers to turn into objective numbers and then weigh better than we can intuitively. The other possibility is finding "exceptions" to generalities that are true in aggregate but not in all circumstances.

My own efforts with data and computers yielded useful answers to handicapping questions people have debated for decades, but it's super rare to find a single factor that's profitable (at least for long) and it's obviously extremely difficult to build a model that weighs all the info better than more advanced models built by math and computer experts supported by high level handicappers.

But if YOU are considering retiring, that says more about tough it is now than theoretical conversation.

Saratoga 03-12-2024 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denniswilliams (Post 2933488)
You mean nonsense like this 'How Do You Use Trainer and Jockey Win% & ITM% ?' won't work? :lol::lol:



Just the way spatial (and visual) data revolutionized NBA data analytics, GPS data will revolutionize horse racing.



I doubt that GPS data is part of the free package, however.



I get a kick out of Equibase. For years, they're been guarding their data like it was the key to continued human existence. Now they offer 'free' data' but only if you give them your personal data.



And I particularly like how if you look at more 2 or 3 results charts in any given session, they start with the 'prove you're human' tests.

This got me too....

They must have something up their sleeves...

wiretowire68 03-12-2024 03:28 PM

Thanks... I have put in for this, still have not received but put in as a software developer...a bad amateur to say the least.

Running Amok 03-12-2024 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denniswilliams (Post 2933488)
You mean nonsense like this 'How Do You Use Trainer and Jockey Win% & ITM% ?' won't work? :lol::lol:



Just the way spatial (and visual) data revolutionized NBA data analytics, GPS data will revolutionize horse racing.


I doubt that GPS data is part of the free package, however.



I get a kick out of Equibase. For years, they're been guarding their data like it was the key to continued human existence. Now they offer 'free' data' but only if you give them your personal data.



And I particularly like how if you look at more 2 or 3 results charts in any given session, they start with the 'prove you're human' tests.

In that thread it specifically stated, "If the win% or ITM% mean nothing to you, that's fine."
But yet you still felt the need to chime in with a trolltard reply and act like you're the expert. :cool:

Tom 03-12-2024 05:09 PM

Were some folks not able to prove they are human?

Interesting.

wiretowire68 03-12-2024 09:07 PM

I have a computer question as I received the data today from Equibase. When I was downloading this today into the Dropbox and saving it to my documents folder. However, I have Windows 11 Home edition and it saved it or tried to save and it being save in Notepad. How do I change this in my system?

Saratoga 03-13-2024 10:27 AM

What's up with this???

Got link for Jim V 15 mins ago....

When I click it , it says I needed to UPGRADE my Dropbox A/C

I have over a gig left in there....

Does this guy get a cut from all the upgrades people will need to get this..

PLEASE!!!

Anyone gets this can they share it....thxs

PS- and , of course, no-reply email

Saratoga 03-13-2024 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saratoga (Post 2933625)
What's up with this???

Got link for Jim V 15 mins ago....

When I click it , it says I needed to UPGRADE my Dropbox A/C

I have over a gig left in there....

Does this guy get a cut from all the upgrades people will need to get this..

PLEASE!!!

Anyone gets this can they share it....thxs

PS- and , of course, no-reply email

Ok.....somehow it showed up...probably took time to get in my box

all good...

will look at it later

Tom 03-13-2024 11:16 AM

What format is the data in?
Attempts to see the "sample" only take me to the registration page.\.
Is there actually a "sample?"

Saratoga 03-13-2024 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2933632)
What format is the data in?
Attempts to see the "sample" only take me to the registration page.\.
Is there actually a "sample?"

Its a .xml file....

you click it then Microsoft Edge opens up...then it switches to code

I did open it with Excel by right clicking file and select Excel

There's is many repetitive lines of data....but I couldn't get anything out of it

Worse part......they send you a zipped file of 2023 and every track and

date is a zipped file....

If someone can figure this out please do...I'm lost !!

denniswilliams 03-13-2024 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saratoga (Post 2933661)
Its a .xml file....

you click it then Microsoft Edge opens up...then it switches to code

I did open it with Excel by right clicking file and select Excel

There's is many repetitive lines of data....but I couldn't get anything out of it

Worse part......they send you a zipped file of 2023 and every track and

date is a zipped file....

If someone can figure this out please do...I'm lost !!


Haven't seen the file but what I get is that it's in .xml format and difficult to deal with in EXCEL. If you know PYTHON you can just read the file into a dataframe and do whatever you want with it.


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