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big frank 02-12-2015 10:08 PM

TVG- Gino
 
He seems like a good guy ,,,,, BUT he is the biggest crybaby of all time..... He always had the right horse but had bad luck..........The most annoying guy on the network ,,,,,,, It's hard to listen at times when he is on

horses4courses 02-12-2015 10:13 PM

Psssst......there's always the mute button until they're loading the gate. ;)

zico20 02-12-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by horses4courses
Psssst......there's always the mute button until they're loading the gate. ;)

Yes, he is annoying. The other one I can't listen to is Britney Eurton. She just seems like an airhead to me. I assume she got the job because of her father. At least I think it is her dad, Peter.

Stillriledup 02-12-2015 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by zico20
Yes, he is annoying. The other one I can't listen to is Britney Eurton. She just seems like an airhead to me. I assume she got the job because of her father. At least I think it is her dad, Peter.

Doesn't everyone have a job because of a relative or friend? Do companies hire blindly off resume's anymore?

Clocker 02-12-2015 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by zico20
The other one I can't listen to is Britney Eurton.

I have no idea if she knows anything about horses. Her voice is painful to my ears and makes me immediately reach for the mute. At the risk of disclosing my age, she sounds like fingernails on a blackboard.

But actually, I pretty much keep all of them on mute lately. Most of them, especially Matt and Tom, think that analysis consist of reading the highlights of the PPs as quickly as possible.

Rich Perloff is about the best regular on the show as far as offering information. Simon lets some good stuff slip out once in a while when he isn't engaged in witty patter with the gang or reeling off his exotic picks.

There are two analysts that I really pay attention to: Dawn at Woodbine and Christina at Monmouth.

Racey 02-12-2015 11:46 PM

Britney
 
Is super cute....that is why she is on lol.

FrankieFigs 02-13-2015 11:19 AM

As far as Gino complaining....doesn't he sound like 95% of the folks we see at the track or OTB's? :)

onefast99 02-13-2015 11:59 AM

One thing I always remember my dad telling me "if you think you can do a better job then complain all you want" their job isn't easy sometimes they get sidetracked the shows they do are completely unrehearsed they have an earpiece and someone is updating them while they attempt to talk, try that 4 days a week and see how you do. Give him credit he is doing what he loves!

NY BRED 02-14-2015 08:16 AM

TVG Announcers
 
like "Jason" they never disappear, but either go to HRTV or return
to TVG.
I maintain there should either be a fan email selection service
and or a chimp on the show who would pick a # (or #"S) for
an exacta/tri/superfecta to compare ROI"S with the TVG experts.

Finally, I enjoyed Matt since he was a real fan of racing and , at the
very least , humble in his selections. More importantly, he made sense
even if he missed, and rarely complained or made excuses for his loss,
which isn't the case with these knuckleheads.

The TVG crew are simply awful in their selections, and yes, I have
learned there is a mute button.

tanner12oz 02-14-2015 08:25 AM

Todd is the worst..gino is a young guy and I think emotions get the best of him at times. I think hes a legit player though which leads to some of the crying. Nobody else is crying cuz nobody is really playing there picks..think gino plays alot of his

tanner12oz 02-14-2015 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by onefast99
One thing I always remember my dad telling me "if you think you can do a better job then complain all you want" their job isn't easy sometimes they get sidetracked the shows they do are completely unrehearsed they have an earpiece and someone is updating them while they attempt to talk, try that 4 days a week and see how you do. Give him credit he is doing what he loves!

I have laughed my ass off at times. The unscripted nature can be a train wreck or tv gold.

castaway01 02-14-2015 08:38 AM

I've listened to horseplayers whine for 20 years, so listening to some kid complain about losing now and then is just part of the game. I'll be listening to Seahawks fans whine for 20 years about the Super Bowl. People love to complain.

Stillriledup 02-14-2015 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by zico20
Yes, he is annoying. The other one I can't listen to is Britney Eurton. She just seems like an airhead to me. I assume she got the job because of her father. At least I think it is her dad, Peter.

Its tough for a "hard core" player to listen to someone they feel hasn't been thru the school of hard knocks....these aren't people who were doing live double headers (pre simo days) in the 1980s and 1990s, these aren't people who grew up around the real hard core gambling part of the sport, they grew up in "cushy" surroundings and aren't really "battle tested" sort of speak and i think that "irks" some people.

Lemon Drop Husker 02-14-2015 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankieFigs
As far as Gino complaining....doesn't he sound like 95% of the folks we see at the track or OTB's? :)

My thoughts as well. We've all heard the consistent complaining while attending any track across the country. He is just a younger and more vocal version of what we see every day. Personally, I like to see youth in Gino and Caleb on the TVG staff. Really like Caleb. Good kid.

In the end, I like TVG. I know, I know, that is blasphemy. But hey, if anybody wants to devote a TV network to just horse racing, and talk about it all day, then I'm all ears. Opinions are just that. You don't have to bet them, but you can use them to formulate your own.

Stillriledup 02-14-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
My thoughts as well. We've all heard the consistent complaining while attending any track across the country. He is just a younger and more vocal version of what we see every day. Personally, I like to see youth in Gino and Caleb on the TVG staff. Really like Caleb. Good kid.

In the end, I like TVG. I know, I know, that is blasphemy. But hey, if anybody wants to devote a TV network to just horse racing, and talk about it all day, then I'm all ears. Opinions are just that. You don't have to bet them, but you can use them to formulate your own.

Its ok to like TVG, but wouldn't you prefer less clowing around and more serious business? After all, we DO take horse betting seriously.

Don't we?

Lemon Drop Husker 02-14-2015 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Its ok to like TVG, but wouldn't you prefer less clowing around and more serious business? After all, we DO take horse betting seriously.

Don't we?

Absolutely.

That is why I like Paul Lo Duca the best. All business all the time, even with all the clowning going on around him.

Todd is the guy that needs to be replaced. The next time he says "for reals" he should be fired. Simon would be much better without that dipwhit as well.

Stillriledup 02-14-2015 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker
Absolutely.

That is why I like Paul Lo Duca the best. All business all the time, even with all the clowning going on around him.

Todd is the guy that needs to be replaced. The next time he says "for reals" he should be fired. Simon would be much better without that dipwhit as well.

Would anyone miss Todd if he left? I'm pretty sure the answer is no.

Marshall Bennett 02-14-2015 03:37 PM

I tuned into TVG briefly earlier and that guy didn't shut-up from the time I started watching till I switched channels :D. In fact he kept yapping into a race in progress drowning out the track announcer. He apologized.
There has to be better TV host on some street corner somewhere in the country that at least knows when to shut the f--k UP !!

thespaah 02-14-2015 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
Its tough for a "hard core" player to listen to someone they feel hasn't been thru the school of hard knocks....these aren't people who were doing live double headers (pre simo days) in the 1980s and 1990s, these aren't people who grew up around the real hard core gambling part of the sport, they grew up in "cushy" surroundings and aren't really "battle tested" sort of speak and i think that "irks" some people.

Notwithstanding Gino's lamenting of losing tickets, what horseplayer doesn't biatch about losing a bet?
And this notion that somehow the guy "hasn't paid his dues" is poppycock..
So Gino hasn't spent years plugging away in nasty OTB parlors makes him unqualified to have an opinion?...

thespaah 02-14-2015 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett
I tuned into TVG briefly earlier and that guy didn't shut-up from the time I started watching till I switched channels :D. In fact he kept yapping into a race in progress drowning out the track announcer. He apologized.
There has to be better TV host on some street corner somewhere in the country that at least knows when to shut the f--k UP !!

I concur..Part of being a commentator is knowing when to let the pictures do the talking.

Stillriledup 02-14-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thespaah
Notwithstanding Gino's lamenting of losing tickets, what horseplayer doesn't biatch about losing a bet?
And this notion that somehow the guy "hasn't paid his dues" is poppycock..
So Gino hasn't spent years plugging away in nasty OTB parlors makes him unqualified to have an opinion?...

I'm just saying that's how a lot of horseplayers think...they don't want to hear from someone who hasn't been thru the wars like they have.

Broad Brush 02-14-2015 06:55 PM

I have read many postings here about how bad TVG and/or HRTV are.

Yes, they could do things better BUT......

I remember many days in the 1970s and 1980s my dad and I betting with
a bookmaker during the winter months:

1. Seeing no races.
2. Seeing no odds.
3. Not knowing track condition changes.
4. Standing in the brutal cold waiting for the "Bulldog" edition of the local
newspaper to be delivered to an all-night diner to get the days results.

I will take TVG all day long.

PS Brittney is really cute.....leave her alone.

Lemon Drop Husker 02-14-2015 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broad Brush
I have read many postings here about how bad TVG and/or HRTV are.

Yes, they could do things better BUT......

I remember many days in the 1970s and 1980s my dad and I betting with
a bookmaker during the winter months:

1. Seeing no races.
2. Seeing no odds.
3. Not knowing track condition changes.
4. Standing in the brutal cold waiting for the "Bulldog" edition of the local
newspaper to be delivered to an all-night diner to get the days results.

I will take TVG all day long.

PS Brittney is really cute.....leave her alone.

Love your attitude my man. Aces in my book.

CosmicWon 02-14-2015 07:14 PM

I like Gino and appreciate his enthusiasm. He and Britney were a cute, fun, young pair this morning on TVG and the guy does love to bet, especially my beloved Delta Downs.

And fwiw you all do know he's a cancer survivor, right? I think that's pretty great, especially for someone my age. http://thesecondrace.blogspot.com/20...horse-for.html

Stillriledup 02-14-2015 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Broad Brush
I have read many postings here about how bad TVG and/or HRTV are.

Yes, they could do things better BUT......

I remember many days in the 1970s and 1980s my dad and I betting with
a bookmaker during the winter months:

1. Seeing no races.
2. Seeing no odds.
3. Not knowing track condition changes.
4. Standing in the brutal cold waiting for the "Bulldog" edition of the local
newspaper to be delivered to an all-night diner to get the days results.

I will take TVG all day long.

PS Brittney is really cute.....leave her alone.

I agree, if you're bashing on Britney, you gotta recheck that hetero card. :D

As far as taking TVG, sure, we all want TVG as opposed to nothing, but wouldn't TVG be better if they took gambling more seriously? We're not even asking them to pick winners, just stop the clowning around.

Nitro 02-14-2015 09:55 PM

I enjoy TVG as an exclusive horseracing network, but some of the announcing unfortunately leaves a lot to be desired. I think its obvious which are better then others when it comes to the delivering the finer points about a given race. What I find annoying is when they show prior race re-runs during the pre-race discussions in an attempt to prove a point that more often then not means absolutely nothing.

I’ve already written to the principals of the NYRA and to TVG about following the lead of racing in Hong Kong. They’ve really got their act together. And why not they’re only betting a 1/4 of a BILLION (Hong Kong) Dollars every day they run. There’s especially no excuse for TVG not to follow their format – after all they’re the network airing the Hong Kong races where the on site announcers keep it simple, to the point and add basic horse physicality to every race. Beyond that the Hong Kong Jockey Club offers free past performances and access to the tote board. For me its like betting on BC or Derby day every time they run: Big fields and of course good value!
.

Stillriledup 02-14-2015 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nitro
I enjoy TVG as an exclusive horseracing network, but some of the announcing unfortunately leaves a lot to be desired. I think its obvious which are better then others when it comes to the delivering the finer points about a given race. What I find annoying is when they show prior race re-runs during the pre-race discussions in an attempt to prove a point that more often then not means absolutely nothing.

I’ve already written to the principals of the NYRA and to TVG about following the lead of racing in Hong Kong. They’ve really got their act together. And why not they’re only betting a 1/4 of a BILLION (Hong Kong) Dollars every day they run. There’s especially no excuse for TVG not to follow their format – after all they’re the network airing the Hong Kong races where the on site announcers keep it simple, to the point and add basic horse physicality to every race. Beyond that the Hong Kong Jockey Club offers free past performances and access to the tote board. For me its like betting on BC or Derby day every time they run: Big fields and of course good value!
.

Interesting you say this because i had someone tell me recently that there's a "difference" between the Sha Tin commentators and those doing the races from the far east. You're right, other than Maggie in NY, there's nobody talking about this type of stuff, true horsemanship type of comments, they're all about forcing pick 9's and pick 11s in your face, you got commentators who are based in one region of the country and are an expert on a certain circuit and yet, those people would be recommending a "pick 17" at a track 2,562 miles away....i don't mind recommending a play, but not THIS:

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tanner12oz 02-14-2015 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
I'm just saying that's how a lot of horseplayers think...they don't want to hear from someone who hasn't been thru the wars like they have.

we might have to adjust what it means to pay your dues since we've list 95% of the otbs locally over the past 5 years. We are down to 2 after having 3x that a few years ago

fmolf 02-15-2015 10:01 AM

the tvg on air personalities at times make me switch to hrtv.Their commentary is more geared to the informationalaspects of the game and very rarely do they give out selections during the running of the races.They have shows on in the morning where certain hosts offer their best bets of the day....HRTV is less schtick...and more content

lamboguy 02-15-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Nitro
I enjoy TVG as an exclusive horseracing network, but some of the announcing unfortunately leaves a lot to be desired. I think its obvious which are better then others when it comes to the delivering the finer points about a given race. What I find annoying is when they show prior race re-runs during the pre-race discussions in an attempt to prove a point that more often then not means absolutely nothing.

I’ve already written to the principals of the NYRA and to TVG about following the lead of racing in Hong Kong. They’ve really got their act together. And why not they’re only betting a 1/4 of a BILLION (Hong Kong) Dollars every day they run. There’s especially no excuse for TVG not to follow their format – after all they’re the network airing the Hong Kong races where the on site announcers keep it simple, to the point and add basic horse physicality to every race. Beyond that the Hong Kong Jockey Club offers free past performances and access to the tote board. For me its like betting on BC or Derby day every time they run: Big fields and of course good value!
.

you make a few excellent points, mainly the free past performances and all the other information that you get just by visiting the Hong Kong website. over there they own all the data, in our country equibase owns it and charges for it. even when you get free past performances from adw's, the adw still has to pay.

i doubt if equibase wants to sell their data base to cheap, they have the monopoly on that. at some point when racing does really go even more backwards, some race track operator will buy them out and build up racing once more.

this game is at a point where the people that work in it only care about getting their paychecks on friday, and all the middlemen that make money from this game without any skin in it.

i happened to watch the live feed from Laurel yesterday and saw the lady Gabby run through a race. she commented on how the horses look and the past performance of the horse. i thought she was pretty good. but it was the very first time i ever watched her. maybe what i did like was that she had said some negative things about a horse that i was going to bet, it stopped me from making the wager and the horse ran dead last. i am going to listen to her all day today and see if i it was just a stroke of luck or real.

FlintAtTheFetlock 02-15-2015 11:16 AM

I agree Rich is top notch and explains how he comes to his selections in a clear concise way, but I'm surprised you tune out Matt. I originally thought he was a loose cannon showing flashes of anger when he loses, then I started noting how many of his horses, never on my radar came in. I think his wife who is in the business really loads him up with great breeding stats. He also goes deep on prior races, who faced who, when, and how those other horses came back, something I just don't have the time to research horses not on the card.

Gino seems a nice guy, with some on air personality, but something always goes wrong with his picks. Kiss of death if you have his horse. :D Brittany is just green and needs time. She has a tendency to chime in inappropriately and suffers in the small talk arena, but is fine in introducing fields and interviewing connections. Needs some seasoning and media training with her broadcasting voice if she is serious. Being a striking beauty helps.

Kaleb is very cool customer for his age, never at a loss of words, and shows passion for the sport. A bright future IMO.

Stillriledup 02-15-2015 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FlintAtTheFetlock
I agree Rich is top notch and explains how he comes to his selections in a clear concise way, but I'm surprised you tune out Matt. I originally thought he was a loose cannon showing flashes of anger when he loses, then I started noting how many of his horses, never on my radar came in. I think his wife who is in the business really loads him up with great breeding stats. He also goes deep on prior races, who faced who, when, and how those other horses came back, something I just don't have the time to research horses not on the card.

Gino seems a nice guy, with some on air personality, but something always goes wrong with his picks. Kiss of death if you have his horse. :D Brittany is just green and needs time. She has a tendency to chime in inappropriately and suffers in the small talk arena, but is fine in introducing fields and interviewing connections. Needs some seasoning and media training with her broadcasting voice if she is serious. Being a striking beauty helps.

Kaleb is very cool customer for his age, never at a loss of words, and shows passion for the sport. A bright future IMO.

I agree. I like Caleb, he's passionate and grew up in the shadows of Churchill, so he's got the game in his blood. I like Gino too, he might complain a bit too much (don't we all? Don't answer that. :D ) but his heart is in the right place, he complains because he has passion to win, he wants to to a good job and Britney is a shining star, she's always upbeat and is learning the game, she also has racing in her blood and it shines thru, she really comes across like she's happy to be there.

As far as Matt goes, i like him but i think he tries too hard to appear "sharp" and ends up picking too many longshots just to show you he's not a chalk eating weasel but sometimes the favorite is going to win, no need to always be a hero trying to force something that isn't there.

ronsmac 02-15-2015 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
I agree. I like Caleb, he's passionate and grew up in the shadows of Churchill, so he's got the game in his blood. I like Gino too, he might complain a bit too much (don't we all? Don't answer that. :D ) but his heart is in the right place, he complains because he has passion to win, he wants to to a good job and Britney is a shining star, she's always upbeat and is learning the game, she also has racing in her blood and it shines thru, she really comes across like she's happy to be there.

As far as Matt goes, i like him but i think he tries too hard to appear "sharp" and ends up picking too many longshots just to show you he's not a chalk eating weasel but sometimes the favorite is going to win, no need to always be a hero trying to force something that isn't there.

I agree with everything you said.

SandyW 02-15-2015 03:48 PM

Gino, a very pleasant and enthusiastic young man that is a credit to the Sport Of Kings. We need a lot more just like him.
A true bright spot for TVG.

Stillriledup 02-15-2015 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SandyW
Gino, a very pleasant and enthusiastic young man that is a credit to the Sport Of Kings. We need a lot more just like him.
A true bright spot for TVG.

Gino is a stand up guy for sure, hard working handicapper, he is a bright spot for TVG no doubt.

Tara73 02-16-2015 08:08 PM

Britney Eurton is especially funny when she attempts to sound smart.

thespaah 02-16-2015 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stillriledup
I'm just saying that's how a lot of horseplayers think...they don't want to hear from someone who hasn't been thru the wars like they have.

UNderstood....But at the end of the day, there is a need for fresh faces that show enthusiasm for the game. Even if it lamenting a losing ticket.

TucsonGreyhound 02-16-2015 11:19 PM

Can't believe the hate for Miss Eurton!

She is beautiful, well-spoken and has a good understanding of the industry.

Her pre-race interviews with the trainers are probably the most valuable pieces of information you can get.

SoCalCircuit 02-16-2015 11:34 PM

I'm surprised at all the Rich love. For some reason I just find him really irritating. My go-tos are usually Matt, Simon and Paul. And obviously Brittany (along with my other two future wives on HRTV :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: :ThmbUp: )

Stillriledup 02-16-2015 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TucsonGreyhound
Can't believe the hate for Miss Eurton!

She is beautiful, well-spoken and has a good understanding of the industry.

Her pre-race interviews with the trainers are probably the most valuable pieces of information you can get.

I agree, she can trainers to say more than they normally might say. :D


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