Best Value
 

Gotta say at 7/2 a flat Dortmund win bet might make the best value. Is the gap between Dortmund and AP that much?

Passing on the race is the best value.

Passing the race is probably best..

You want American Pharoah to win. In this sense, you can play against him with those funny pool odds because of all the $2 Win souvenir tickets on him and score. Or you will be able to witness a coronation.

WIN/WIN :cool:

American Pharoah should be 1/5 against this field. He is the best value in this race.

although not made public. all insiders trackside say it's pretty much a known fact that AP is superior to dorts.


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If you feel American Pharoah is a huge underlay, then Dortmund is a value.

If you love American Pharoah, 7/2 isn't much, if any value.

He barely passed Dortmund and Firing Line at 10X those odds in the last. Add to that the whipping amounts and I can only hope you are being sarcastic with the odds and value.

Sarcastic? Hardly.

He put Dortmund away with more than an eighth of a mile to go in the Derby and Firing Line had an absolutely perfect trip and was finished with a sixteenth to go. The shorter distance is not going to help. AP most likely goes to the lead and never looks back.

He is vastly superior to everything in this field just as he was in the Derby.

I said he should have been even money in the Derby. I got a gift at 2.9-1. I expect more of the same this time too.

Finally, in regards to the whipping. It is meaningless. I could care less if pretty pony fans are upset. The horse was not affected by it in the least.

AP to show I think will be the best value, last year CC payed 20 cents to the dollar as a .50 fav with the top 3 choices finishing ITM, I think one of FL or Dort will run out so the payoff should be better this year with just as good as a fav.

I HOPE you are kidding. 1/5 is way,way off.

The :8: in the 9th and the :9: in the 10th.

Firing Line will be bet heavily in here, he will be 2nd choice. Post 1 is a tough spot considering AP's "Style" and the way the race shapes up. Baffert may take Dortmund way back and try and make one run, he may be more effective with that strategy.

This goes against everything I was taught about show betting. Getting a measly 2.20 to 2.50 payoff on a star horse like American Pharoah is never a good idea.

You're better off going with Danzig Moon or Tale of Verve to show and hoping American Pharoah or one of the big 3 dumps his jockey.

Dortmund needs an early speed favoring track to win. We won't know if there be a an early speed favoring track until Saturday. Without that kind of track, Dortmund chances are very slim (5% or less).