Ask Andy Beyer
 

https://promos.drf.com/beyer

Beyer resource page email Beyer quesions via email askbeyer@drf.com:ThmbUp:

It looks like they've done a really good job expanding on the Beyer Par information.

The Top Beyer info is also nice.

I stumbled onto those pars by accident - yes, much improved.:ThmbUp:

Still, can't help but wonder why so many races in the form have no Beyer par listed.

To have a good par time you need a large sample of races at that condition, surface, and usually distance.

They have an internal system where the PARs are entered by the Beyer team. That's probably the source for the newspaper also. Now that they have a much improved PAR report, it may be a matter of time before the newspaper gets updated also, but I don't know that.

I like the Ask Beyer and Jerardi columns. As long as they are willing to take the time to explain some of the nuances of figures and specific races, that's a plus for horse players.

Damn Arrogate had to get a 122 Beyer...otherwise...Holy Bull would share with no other 3yo on that list....

Right. But you would think they have that covered based on the data provided in this thread.

Just about every race indicates "pars not available" when you print the form off the website. I'm not certain, but I think the print edition of the form is better at providing this information.

True. But the question still applies.


Among the possible answers is that racing secretaries...blah blah.. killed condition/class as a usable handicapping feature.

Holy Bull was all over that list. :ThmbUp:

I am able to calculate pars for just about every race from my own DB.

If I had access to DRF's db.........:cool:

Exactly.

1997. The year of the giant beyers.

I hope Mr. Beyer is doing well, and is able to participate in some Derby discussions.

Andy contacted Mike and asked him to relay to Class and that we should submit the questions about lack of pars, so I did tonight.

Nice to know he reads us and reached out!
Class Act!!!

I will post link to his reply.

Not a big fan of his numbers but really like that he takes the time to answer questions. This to me embodies a class act!!!!