2012 presidential election odds
 

strange move over at thegreek.com this morning.

the democrat went from -$180-$100 up to $183-$100 overnight.

they tell me that the move the line ,01 for each $10,000 bet on it. that must mean that they got $30,000 in bets last night on the democrat.

they are not losing anything to this because i remember when i first started to follow this the democrat was $250-$100. so for those that like to follow the money, it would seem that there is more money on the republican so far in this election.

what is interesting is the amount of money bet on the election. there seems to be plenty of interest worldwide. there may be plenty of hedger's and scalpers playing this election from both sides.

This is the 3rd new thread you've started on this same topic in less than a week..

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=96545

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=96630

Makes no sense. Why not just reply in the original?

duly noted, thank you

after i heard there was going to be an announcement this morning i went to thegreek.com to check the odds. lo and behold, this election is off the board right now!

election odds back on the board. the democrat went down slightly in price to -$180-$100, someone must have liked the vp choice

It's just Sheldon Adelson buying some insurance.

I saw Obama's odds were -180 on Friday at Bookmaker. Bookmaker has since taken the Presidential odds off the board and they will be back up on August 18th.

UK books open 24/7
 

Here ya go:

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/.../winning-party

Btw, Pinnacle (one of the biggest out there) are looking for Dem money.

Once upon a time, Pinnacle was the biggest player. Bookmaker.eu IS the biggest now.

Proof?

Pardon me for doubting, but 3 or 4 years back they were second rate.
That's been a pretty rapid rise......

They took much of the business that Pinnacle used to have, until Pinnacle closed their doors to the US. Bookmaker is the former CRIS, which was already one of the biggest books in the world.

Yes, I remember when Ron Sacco started CRIS

Every legitimate bookmaking operation throughout the world closed their doors to the US.
They have company directors, and shareholders, who don't wish to be locked up, should they ever decide to set foot on these shores.
That's why they chose not to do business with US residents.

Any company who does otherwise, is not to be trusted as a going concern.
They're like any other illegal book being operated throughout this country.
Sure, the money is there to be made in the short term.
Don't expect them to be around in the years ahead, though.

No-lose situation
 

So, as things stand right now on the odds, IF you had accounts with both Pinnacle and William Hill, AND had a spare $27200 between them, you could bet both sides and lock up a $700 profit. :cool:

$17900 with Pinnacle on the Dems @ -179 to win $10K
$9300 with Will Hill on the Reps @ +200 to win $18600

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/.../winning-party

"Get your money for nothing, and your chicks for free"

That is, of course, assuming that an independent won't go to the White House.
Oy vey........ :bang:

there has been a little bit of a betting surge in the last few days.

the odds have gone up from the Democrat -$180 to the Democrat -$200.


Thegreek.com is where i am quoting my prices from. as far as i know Spiro is pretty large and very reputable. i don't know if he is bigger than the ones that have been mentioned on this thread, all i know is that he has been doing this for the past 20 years offshore.

The Greek is a major player.
Always quick to post lines - they've been around forever.

It will be interesting to see when Bookmaker.eu posts their numbers. They have a lot of US accounts; while I believe the UK books are great at setting lines for events like the Arlington Million and BC turf races, they primarily have European customers so its likely they have a biased opinion in favor of the Euro-friendly Obama.

Bill Hill: Obama 2-5 Romney 7-4. Sorry but IMO thats the worst 2-5 shot I've ever seen. Come "post time" I suspect that line will come in, at least at a shop like Bookmaker where the clientele are more familiar with both candidates.

Bovada has:

2012 US Presidential Election - Winning Party 9:00p Democratic Party -210
Republican Party +170

a friend of mine just told me that Bookmaker has the line -$220 over the phone.

i am going to give the greek the respect on this line, they take the biggest bite.

it looks like they are loaded with Republican money

as of today, August 24 thegreek.com new line for this election:

Democrats -$210-$100

Republicans $100-$175

checked odds today and saw that thegreek.com had this election off the boards.

i checked with BETCRIS.com and they had it up at Democrat -$190 Republican +$160

wider spread, but according to them shifting towards the Republican.

no question in my mind, if i could get down i would be taking the +$170 for some large change. i think this election is going to flip-flop going forward.

Fly to London, lambo
Plenty of books will give you +175 on the Republicans for 5-10K a pop.

Odds differential
 

What's interesting to me is the fact that the best generally available odds you can get on the Republicans winning is +175.
Yet, you can bet on Mitt Romney being the next president at +187 with quite a few books.

That's quite an odds differential for six of one, and a half dozen of the other.

its like betting a baseball game where you name the pitchers and both of them have to start otherwise you got no action.

if i was betting on the democrats, i would much rather be betting on that entry instead of Obama, he is a beatable candidate against Romney, Hillary can't miss against anyone the other side puts up.

If Obama wins this election and the economy goes deeper into the toilet, she won't have a chance in 2016. Ryan will crush her. Her best chance is if Romney/Ryan win now, but if the economy still is struggling by 2016.

thegreek.com is back up with the democrats -$210-$100

Look where the money is moving. The William Hill and other UK bookmaker's odds were a joke. They should stick to horse racing and soccer. Things they are knowledgable about.

i made a mistake posting before

Yeah, they've only been doing business legally for over 80 years.... :rolleyes:
The only thing that moves that line is money, and they are taking it on both sides.

If they lack knowledge with betting on politics, their doors are open 7 days a week for the likes of you to stick it to them.

as of 6:00 p.m.

Democrats are down to -$185- $100

Republicans $100- $165


someone must have come in with $100,000 to win on the Republicans

August 31

thegreek.com does not have the election odds up on the board as of this morning.

Do you think christie and rubio are rooting FOR romney? Our outlook has become so bleak that any sane politician with long range designs on the white house has GOT to be pulling against his own party.

Election odds back up at thegreek.com

Democrats now -$200-$100

Obama −200
Romney +170

Line posted on 5Dimes today.

thegreek.com just moved up the election line to democrats -$210-$100.

as of 7:00 thegreek.com has taken the election off the boards

odds at thegreek.com are now back up

democrats are now - $230-$100

[QUOTE=mountainman]Do you think christie and rubio are rooting FOR romney? Our outlook has become so bleak that any sane politician with long range designs on the white house has GOT to be pulling against his own party.[/QUOTE
you got that right. sometimes i feel like the republicans are trying to lose. Mccain and Palin had loser written all over it...i suspect that if they had to run against Hilary....it would of been worse for them. Now they are putting this Romney up there! I'm sorry but the guy comes across as a some what of a chowder head. When i hear him speak i wonder if hes running for some hick town mayor or something from Oh Brother Where Art Thou....lol. "My constituacy"...lol. Whats next....midgets? Obama is no great deal either but look at the choices we get in "free country".... lol. The economy is in a ditch (jobs wise) and will continue to be that way for the next couple years......AT LEAST. No matter who is in there! These guys promising this and that...have no power to change it! Why would you want to win if you can get so much milage pointing at the other guy? Thats how the republicans creamed 2010! Romney is in there because the others you mentioned are smart enough to wait this thing out. On the odds, the incumbant will always be the favorite...he has the office at his disposal. Its tougher on presidents but the congressional and senate seats are practically "rigged districts". Thats why there are guys there until they die. "Free Country" , yeah, thats the intentions, to go to washington, get rich and be bought off for decades...thats what the founders wanted....lol...lol. The chickens have come home to roost my friends.......the two party system is part of the problem....not the answer. We get to live with it everyday now and people still back it. Dumb and Dumber with an 80% chance of crooks being bought off....don't forget about the fanatic wing nuts that back this garbage....watch C-Span, Facebook and the internet...the talking points are not only stupid but hilarious....lol. We get just what we deserve....in a "free country". lol

thegreek.com now has this election the democrats -$220-$100.

When will Obama become such the heavy favorite that they simply stop taking action altogether?