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GMB@BP 07-25-2018 04:53 PM

He wasnt all that good...somewhere between Dollar Bill and War Emblem. Caught a weak group, had no heart, wasnt that fast either.

v j stauffer 07-25-2018 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB@BP (Post 2346729)
He wasnt all that good...somewhere between Dollar Bill and War Emblem. Caught a weak group, had no heart, wasnt that fast either.

For someone that usually seems to have sharp takes. That's the most ridiculous thing I think I've ever seen written.

Dollar Bill & War Emblem?:lol::lol:

The only other undefeated Triple Crown winner is Seattle Slew.

IMO had he raced in this era he could very well have been retired early too.

I understand if as a fan you're pissed. I'm disappointed too.

But it's not the horse's fault. When you're looking at hundreds of millions of dollars you just can't take a chance of having him get trounced or worse yet pull up bad.

Think of Big Brown. How he's perceived. How would people look at him had he not run in the Belmont for whatever reason?

Scratching would fade away and all that would be left would be crushing victories in the Derby and Preakness.

Being pulled up in the Belmont is his lasting image. And a costly one.

If you owned Justify and were presented with the same decision what would you do?

Would you think it was warranted to call him average because he has filling in his ankle?

GMB@BP 07-25-2018 05:09 PM

You were not around all spring were I had to constantly defend the horse, so most people knew it was pure sarcasm. I have an idea of how good the horse is historically compared to some others over the last say 25 years, at least from the people I trust.

also the Dollar Bill reference was an inside joke to an earlier locked thread.

Buckeye 07-25-2018 05:13 PM

Who is MoW?

Please remind me--

Ok, I got it, Man o' War.

No comparison.

Justify is retired? Nice work.

Inner Dirt 07-25-2018 05:16 PM

Just wondering and I know zero about breeding horses, is retiring horses early for breeding purposes risk passing infirmities into the bloodlines? Does durability get passed on or is it a moot point? Just wondering, I know people are trying to protect their investment, and I am 100% fine with that, just wondering about the long term effects.

ultracapper 07-25-2018 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2346676)
He's a lock for HOY.

A lock for HOF also.

ultracapper 07-25-2018 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GMB@BP (Post 2346744)
You were not around all spring were I had to constantly defend the horse, so most people knew it was pure sarcasm. I have an idea of how good the horse is historically compared to some others over the last say 25 years, at least from the people I trust.

also the Dollar Bill reference was an inside joke to an earlier locked thread.

You would have left Van Dyke up.

v j stauffer 07-25-2018 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMB@BP (Post 2346744)
You were not around all spring were I had to constantly defend the horse, so most people knew it was pure sarcasm. I have an idea of how good the horse is historically compared to some others over the last say 25 years, at least from the people I trust.

also the Dollar Bill reference was an inside joke to an earlier locked thread.

Oh shitballs I'm sorry. I had know clue it was an inside joke. Like I said it seemed totally out of character for you.

:blush:

dilanesp 07-25-2018 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ultracapper (Post 2346760)
A lock for HOF also.

Only in this sport.

Imagine a baseball player who had one great season and retired healthy simply because he didn't want to compete. No way he gets near Cooperstown.

Tom 07-25-2018 05:53 PM

And dammit, Justify should never get into Cooperstown either~!:rant:

ultracapper 07-25-2018 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dilanesp (Post 2346766)
Only in this sport.

Imagine a baseball player who had one great season and retired healthy simply because he didn't want to compete. No way he gets near Cooperstown.

I think Don Larsen should be in Cooperstown all because of one great afternoon in October 1956. It is the Hall of FAME, not the Hall of Statistics, which is exactly what it has become.

thaskalos 07-25-2018 06:18 PM

This used to be a "sport"...but it has now become a "game". And in a game...the money reigns supreme as the ultimate "scorekeeper". Horse ownership is a very risky venture...and the breeding money for the genuine "stars" of the game has gotten too big to pass up. I don't blame the connections for taking the money and running in cases such as this.

Spalding No! 07-25-2018 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thaskalos (Post 2346790)
I don't blame the connections for taking the money and running in cases such as this.

..."taking the money and NOT running"...

Grits 07-25-2018 06:56 PM

Retiring your horse, yes, I get that. Then, only minutes after this announcement, you begin to hawk on the internet, a tour of your horse farm, starting at $20 per person for one hour, then $30 per person for two hours, etc, etc. Book early, beginning August 16 as there is no guarantee that Justify will be available for viewing as he could move to another farm. Any and all cancellations must be made 48 hours in advance.

And you have a deal for 60+M.

I don't see how Troutt can keep a straight face...what a joke these folks are.

Andy Asaro 07-25-2018 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Grits (Post 2346810)
Retiring your horse, yes, I get that. Then, only minutes after this announcement, you begin to hawk on the internet, a tour of your horse farm, starting at $20 per person for one hour, then $30 per person for two hours, etc, etc. Book early, beginning August 16 as there is no guarantee that Justify will be available for viewing as he could move to another farm. Any and all cancellations must be made 48 hours in advance.

And you have a deal for 60+M.

I don't see how Troutt can keep a straight face...what a joke these folks are.

Amen.


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