Here is what the president of the PTHA thinks of bettors
 

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Jeff Mullins probably loves this guy.

WOW. The phrase "Grounds for immediate termination" isn't enough to state just how quicky he should be fired.

Not surprised :bang: :bang:

I hope decoupling come to them first and his dumbass quote is posted everywhere for all to see when they realize, they now need handle to survive.

I love quotes like these. They show us how insult-resistant we horseplayers really are. We appear enraged when we read these remarks...and then we run to buy our Pennsylvania PPs.

At least DeBunda has the guts to say what he thinks out in the open. Other industry leaders feel exactly the same...but reserve their ridiculing comments for their behind-closed-doors meetings.

Maybe he is right. People here would rather talk about announcers!

Of course he is right. Mullins was right too...although it pains me to admit it. The horseplayer gets exactly what he deserves.

This actually comes from an article that is five years old. Of course nothing has changed though, so I think it is safe to assume his attitude is the same.

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I boycotted CD and don't play it at all, except for a token play in the Derby. I didn't play the Derby last year, as I was tied up but I have stuck to my boycott.

I have no problem boycotting a track. Heck, I reduced handle big time at NYRA in the past 6 weeks as I was upset over the riders and their bullshit.

Maybe I live in a vacuum but if orchestrated right, I think a message can be sent.

Hell, I was going to ask PA for permission to pick a designated race to boycott and to use PA as the forum to organize it.

I wanted to start a poll and ask people if they would participate and see how much they handle at certain tracks. (See the possible impact).

I placed that thought on hold for now.

What a Douche! Should be tarred and feathered.

When the state with the most lucrative track-based casino business takes a public stance such as this, then the horseplayer must take notice...and react appropriately. NOT to react proves that what DeBunda is saying is RIGHT. The horseplayer is NOT deterred by the exorbitant takeout...and if the horseplayer isn't deterred by it...then the takeout shouldn't be reduced.

How about I e-mail him and mail him 40000 letters explaining how I don't play PARX because their takeout sucks?

Maybe I'll paste his words in the letter and send it to the local newspapers?

All signed by 40,000 different people?

I figure, I can do 100 a day, give me 400 days :lol: :lol: :lol:

HANAS annual track ratings come out next week. Please research the takeouts of your favorite tracks and support those that support the bettor. I know a lot of people on here are not too fond of Keeneland but they do their best to be a bettors track along with all the glitz and glamor.

This is my ax to grind with horseman. This is why I have no sympathy for almost any of them. They have zero business sense. And zero sense of long term outlook. Their investment and concern about the sport ranges from a week to maybe the end of the current meet.

The sport slowly dies in front of there eyes and these guys only concerned about this condition's books purses. None of them care about the bettors and idea of them sacrificing one penny today to possible make a nickel or dime next week is a non-starter.

It's classic horseman mentality.

I've always advocated for a day off from racing. Pick a day, flood newspapers and other outlets with stories on the boycott day, and nobody bets any track that day. Someone will say it will never work, but if it garners attention and makes enough of an impact to bring the horseplayer's issue to light, it's a start. The problem is that horseplayers don't have quite the equivalent to the HBPA to lead and negotiate, so that makes it harder, but I think dramatic is the way to go. Seriously - is there anyone who couldn't give up one Saturday to make the point?

I've always advocated abstaining from betting a single track, for a period of a week...while betting normally at the other tracks. That way, the horseplayer still gets to make his point...while still indulging his "addiction". Is it that much of a "sacrifice" to stop betting a single track...just to prove the point that we are a force to be reckoned with? What do you think Mr. Debunda would say if the handle at Parx declined by 90% for a week...while business at the rest of the tracks continued normally?

Alas...we horseplayers can't even do that. :bang:

How about we pick 1 day, 1 race at Parx and go from there?