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jay68802 03-30-2018 12:23 AM

Bring Dutrow Back
 

Brogan 03-30-2018 10:34 AM

I'll try to boil this down to a simple answer:

NOPE

jay68802 03-30-2018 10:38 AM


jay68802 03-30-2018 11:47 AM

I will start by saying that I liked the guy. As stated in the article, he was a character. He said what was on his mind. When I read this article, I keep thinking how what was written, shows how out of touch the racing industry is with its customers. "Everybody was using steroids, because they were legal". Sounds a lot like Stephanie Beatie saying that she was cheating because "everyone else was". The article also says that the use of steroids has been banned. Masochistic's case say's other wise, steroids are still being used, but under the pretext of increasing a horses appetite. The fact still remains that he was caught using a illegal substance, and was punished. Some of the rules are made to protect the integrity in racing, and it seems that these rules are the ones some in this industry spend a lot of time trying to get around.

Now Romans's has started this petition for reinstatement. Wants to get 1500 signatures. Would that be enough to sway the New York Racing and Wagering board? I doubt it, but who knows.

What if horse players submitted a petition with 1500 signatures asking for lower take out? Or a petition asking for the timing of races to be started when the gates open? Would it be enough to have these changes made? I think that we could submit 15,000 signatures and horse racing would ignore it.

Dutrow cheated, and did so knowingly. IMO, he felt he was above the rules, and if caught, would not face a punishment that was severe. He rolled the dice and lost.

lamboguy 03-30-2018 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jay68802 (Post 2296114)
I will start by saying that I liked the guy. As stated in the article, he was a character. He said what was on his mind. When I read this article, I keep thinking how what was written, shows how out of touch the racing industry is with its customers. "Everybody was using steroids, because they were legal". Sounds a lot like Stephanie Beatie saying that she was cheating because "everyone else was". The article also says that the use of steroids has been banned. Masochistic's case say's other wise, steroids are still being used, but under the pretext of increasing a horses appetite. The fact still remains that he was caught using a illegal substance, and was punished. Some of the rules are made to protect the integrity in racing, and it seems that these rules are the ones some in this industry spend a lot of time trying to get around.

Now Romans's has started this petition for reinstatement. Wants to get 1500 signatures. Would that be enough to sway the New York Racing and Wagering board? I doubt it, but who knows.

What if horse players submitted a petition with 1500 signatures asking for lower take out? Or a petition asking for the timing of races to be started when the gates open? Would it be enough to have these changes made? I think that we could submit 15,000 signatures and horse racing would ignore it.

Dutrow cheated, and did so knowingly. IMO, he felt he was above the rules, and if caught, would not face a punishment that was severe. He rolled the dice and lost.

steroids are being administered with the use of clen beuterol

Tom 03-30-2018 12:18 PM

Let me put it this way.
Once you take your trash out to the curb, do bring it back and put it back in the fridge?

He cheated, he knew it, screw him, and the horse he milk shaked,.

And if Romans wants him back, we better be checking HIS horses a little more closely.

PointGiven 03-30-2018 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brogan (Post 2296101)
I'll try to boil this down to a simple answer:

NOPE

This. Nothing more to add.

Robert Fischer 03-30-2018 01:13 PM

I don't know enough about the details to have an opinion.


Some infer that Dutrow was banned more for his big mouth during the Big Brown run, regarding the public's naivete of performance enhancement and steroid use, than for the subsequent or collective infraction(s).

Even if that is the case, I still don't know enough about this to have an opinion.

It's an interesting subject. I liked Dutrow. I liked handicapping and betting him.

Afleet 03-30-2018 02:00 PM

He needs to pay me back all the money he cheated me out of first. I used to lose betting against his horses who would 'improve' 20+ on their speed figures

thaskalos 03-30-2018 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2296123)
Let me put it this way.
Once you take your trash out to the curb, do bring it back and put it back in the fridge?

He cheated, he knew it, screw him, and the horse he milk shaked,.

And if Romans wants him back, we better be checking HIS horses a little more closely.

I echo this sentiment through and through. IMO...Romans should be watched closely from now on. :ThmbUp:

JustRalph 03-30-2018 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thaskalos (Post 2296295)
I echo this sentiment through and through. IMO...Romans should be watched closely from now on. :ThmbUp:

What the hell is up with Romans? Wasn’t he running horses against Dutrow?

RunForTheRoses 03-30-2018 06:50 PM

Is he really really gone or is he Michele Nevin and Rudy Rod?

JustRalph 03-30-2018 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunForTheRoses (Post 2296313)
Is he really really gone or is he Michele Nevin and Rudy Rod?

I hope he’s Rudy, the shoes are much more comfortable

JimG 03-30-2018 08:10 PM

No Babe.

JustRalph 03-30-2018 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimG (Post 2296354)
No Babe.

Nice! :pound:


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