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boxcar 01-08-2010 01:24 PM

The RNC Survey
 
Has anyone received the survey sent out by the Republican National Committee?
For anyone with anything but mush between the ears, you realize immediately after reading the enclosed cover letter and upon perusing the survey what an insult both are to the intelligence of all thinking conservatives, but even more importantly what the unfathomable depths of self-deception must be that pervades the Party because they don't even realize how their mailing betrayed their own hypocrisy. Permit to quote an opening portion of the letter:

You know that the liberal media elities and the Obama Democrats are hoping you will put this letter down right now and do nothing....

They want you to give up, desert your Party, and walk away from your conservative principles....


So, the idea that is being conveyed here is that the Republicans are out for you -- they share the same conservative principles as you...apparently. They're sending this survey to encourage YOU to not walk away from YOUR conservative principles with which the RNC implicitly shares -- otherwise, why would they be spending their resources sending all this material out to millions of households?

But the survey sends a contradictory message. The survey would have been more suitable for liberal Democrats to take! Why in the world would a supposedly conservative political party ask fellow conservatives these kinds of questions?:

3. Do you support amnesty for illegal immigrants?

6. Are you in favor of expanded welfare benefits and ulimited eligibility to illegal immigrants who gain U.S. citizenship through an amnesty program?

9. Do you support the creation of a national health insurance plan that would be administered by bureaucrats in Washington D.C.?

15. Do you support Democrats' drive to eliminate workers' right to a private ballot when considering unionization of their place of employment?


Clearly, the real purpose behind the survey is to try to gauge the extent to which the recipients of same may have moved to the LEFT. They want to determine if the true conservative base has shrunk in the last few years.

Let me try to put this into perspective a little for you by using a religious analogy. Two strangers meet on a long train trip and engage one another in a conversation. As they talk, they discover that they're both Evangelical Christians. They both profess this. They even go so far as to share their conversion testimony with one another, etc. But after some time, one of them begins asking the other such things as: Do you think the bible is really the inspired word of God? Or... do you think the resurrection of Jesus was really a bodily resurrection? A true Evangelical would never pose such questions to another Evangleical because for true Christians these kinds of things would be fundamental tenets of their faith. They would be givens!

Likewise, no true conservative political party would ever think of insulting other conservatives by asking the kinds of questions that are presented in the survey. It truly betrays the hypocrisy of the senders and the hidden agenda behind the survey, which is really to gauge how far Left the recipients might have moved, which in turn will tell the RNC how far to left it can move! After all, the RNC would never want to offend anyone by coming off as being too conservative, would it? :rolleyes:

I would urge all fellow conservatives out there to categorically reject this insulting survey, but at the same time don't let that prepaid postage envelope go to waste. As busy as I am with a project that I'm working on, I'm going to take the time to send the survey back to the RNC blank with my own cover letter. I don't believe the RNC will like what they read, and I will post that letter on this thread when I'm finished with it.

Boxcar

schweitz 01-08-2010 01:36 PM

Mine went in the trash after reading the first couple of sentences.

ArlJim78 01-08-2010 01:43 PM

my response to Republicans is show me what you got? lets see your plans, your agenda. show me some leadership right now. then we'll start looking at surveys or donations.

Instead they've got Michael Steele running around saying that Republicans won't take back the house this time and that they're not ready to lead! huh?

skate 01-08-2010 01:47 PM

From the Boxcar;
"But after some time, one of them begins asking the other such things as: Do you think the bible is really the inspired word of God? Or... do you think the resurrection of Jesus was really a bodily resurrection? A true Evangelical would never pose such ...."


I'm not going to disagree, i don't have the letter (survey), i'm not happy with either party, this is not an overal comment on your opinion.

It could be a good idea to question any religious belief, also any other belief.

What the Hay mow, i'd even question PA's belief.

boxcar 01-08-2010 01:50 PM

Too bad. Both of you squandered a good opportunity to sound off -- but with a thoughtful, intelligent response -- and at the RNC's expense.

Boxcar

ArlJim78 01-08-2010 01:56 PM

i never saw this survey, but Republicans hear from me all the time. i keep telling them that a third party is looking better and better.

Tom 01-08-2010 02:28 PM

Republicans are not a viable alternative. They do not stand for anything. Their leader is a token chosen soley for his color. Repubs are nothing more than whores - they will do anything to get a vote. Their talk of a bigger tent is absurd. After all this, they still have no clue at all. McCain is a poster boy for ignorance.

I have one - third party. Tea Party.

hazzardm 01-08-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom
Republicans are not a viable alternative. They do not stand for anything. Their leader is a token chosen soley for his color. Repubs are nothing more than whores - they will do anything to get a vote. Their talk of a bigger tent is absurd. After all this, they still have no clue at all. McCain is a poster boy for ignorance.

I have one - third party. Tea Party.


Uhhhh, no thank you....


and now here we have Dale Robertson, leader of TeaParty.org, in trouble for appearing at the February 27, 2009 Houston Tea Party with a sign containing a racist slur

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/arti...he_Tea_Parties

BlueShoe 01-08-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schweitz
Mine went in the trash after reading the first couple of sentences.

Ditto. When the GOP actually returns to its conservative roots instead of just giving lip service to them, then will I pay more attention to things like this. Without reading it all, would bet that there was a pitch for money at the end, with a request for a contribution, right?

Tom 01-08-2010 03:30 PM

Never heard of him, and we do not have a leader.
I smell a rat here.

boxcar 01-08-2010 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueShoe
Ditto. When the GOP actually returns to its conservative roots instead of just giving lip service to them, then will I pay more attention to things like this. Without reading it all, would bet that there was a pitch for money at the end, with a request for a contribution, right?

You bet! A big pitch for money!

This is what politics is all about, folks. Money. Politicians want our money and corporate money. Money buys them power. And the more power the thugs and thieves get, less powerful the people become.

Boxcar

boxcar 01-08-2010 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skate
From the Boxcar;
"But after some time, one of them begins asking the other such things as: Do you think the bible is really the inspired word of God? Or... do you think the resurrection of Jesus was really a bodily resurrection? A true Evangelical would never pose such ...."


I'm not going to disagree, i don't have the letter (survey), i'm not happy with either party, this is not an overal comment on your opinion.

It could be a good idea to question any religious belief, also any other belief.

What the Hay mow, i'd even question PA's belief.

If one professing Christian's allegiance is not truly with Christ, it's inevitable that he will betray his hypocrisy with his words or actions. (BO is a stellar example of this!) One need not grill another professing Evangelical about the content of his faith.

Boxcar

exactaplayer 01-08-2010 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boxcar
If one professing Christian's allegiance is not truly with Christ, it's inevitable that he will betray his hypocrisy with his words or actions. (BO is a stellar example of this!) One need not grill another professing Evangelical about the content of his faith.

Boxcar

So does this mean you think man walked the earth with dinosaurs ?

Tom 01-08-2010 03:53 PM

Many are doing just that this very day! :D

exactaplayer 01-08-2010 04:07 PM

Touche !


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