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SkunkApe 02-12-2021 10:33 PM

Risen Star
 
I wasn’t impressed by the Lecompte, and am looking at alternatives for the Risen Star.

Senor Buscador has been visually impressive, but the Remington thing turns me off.

Thinking O Besos might do it if he can carry his speed, but Hernandez jumping off for Starrininmydreams gives me pause.

Starrininmyndreams feels like the kind of horse than can step up, and has early speed. Thinking he’s my play. Thoughts?

(If you forced me to take a Lecompte horse, it’d be Santa Cruiser, who I picked in the Lecompte and think was hurt much by the break and trip. The rest leave me cold. Santa Cruiser at least leaves me lukewarm.)

Andy Asaro 02-13-2021 07:19 AM

Looks like a contested pace to me.

Senor Buscador looks tough. Also interested in Carillo and maybe O Besos underneath.

Good luck

turfeyejoe 02-13-2021 08:26 AM

Track conditions
 
Track was sloppy and no turf Friday. What do you expect track conditions to be Saturday? Off the turf again?

SkunkApe 02-13-2021 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turfeyejoe (Post 2701276)
Track was sloppy and no turf Friday. What do you expect track conditions to be Saturday? Off the turf again?

No. No rain in the forecast today. I’m hoping they saved it for today.

If race 11 goes off the turf, I’m playing Blackberry Wine to win.

Andy Asaro 02-13-2021 11:49 AM


SkunkApe 02-13-2021 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Asaro (Post 2701297)

Race 5 and 7 off the turf.

Turf is soft, main track good.

Robert Fischer 02-13-2021 12:41 PM

Senor Buscador and Carillo are both really fun prospects.
I have no idea if either will make a big impact.

The Cox horse Mandoulen? should be a fair price. He hasn't been as hot as he can get, but he's probably a logical somewhat fairly priced contender.

Asmussen has been hot, and maybe he can get his speed horse to move forward enough to win back in a tougher spot here?

PhantomOnTour 02-13-2021 12:54 PM

Buscador is getting WAY too much hype here, and i question if he will have the same move today in the slop and without lasix.
His price will come down from his 6-1 ML and at this point he's a pass for me

Andy Asaro 02-13-2021 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour (Post 2701314)
Buscador is getting WAY too much hype here, and i question if he will have the same move today in the slop and without lasix.
His price will come down from his 6-1 ML and at this point he's a pass for me

Not sloppy

Robert Fischer 02-13-2021 07:02 PM

I expect the :10: Santa Cruiser to finish in front of the :5: Senor Buscador.

The :5: is a lot more fun and more interesting. I just don't like him in this spot today.

Was going to do some 10c supers with the 10 underneath, but at these prices (IF 5 is going to be a top 3 exacta choice) there is no reason to really go beyond exactas.

Robert Fischer 02-13-2021 07:32 PM

at first watching, maybe the 5 was near the photo for 4th...

I never paid attention to the 10, who knows could have been last?


good value in WPS ex Tri for what turned out to be a boring, formful, race

:11: and :6: were probably the two best, once again.
I'm not a big :2: Proxy fan, but he we was well placed, ran another solid effort, and has an extremely pretty paper form at this point.


Didn't see much from the :1: the :4: or the :5: (the three interesting faces), but again, I haven't re-watched. Or even watched once relatively carefully.

Cool day of racing.

SkunkApe 02-13-2021 08:31 PM

Well, it’s hard for me to be much wronger than I was.

But I’ll keep trying.

Andy Asaro 02-14-2021 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkunkApe (Post 2701465)
Well, it’s hard for me to be much wronger than I was.

But I’ll keep trying.

Same here.

classhandicapper 02-14-2021 09:14 AM

I tried to get the :10: Santa Cruiser into the exotics. I was disappointed in his effort. He was well beaten by the top 3 finishers in his previous race, but he got squeezed at the start and dropped far back in that race on a track that may have been mildly biased towards horses that were up close early in a race that flowed heavily towards the front. I thought he'd be a lot closer early yesterday and finish among that top group. He had a wide trip, but I didn't see much else. I have to watch all the replays.

PhantomOnTour 02-15-2021 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by classhandicapper (Post 2701524)
I tried to get the :10: Santa Cruiser into the exotics. I was disappointed in his effort. He was well beaten by the top 3 finishers in his previous race, but he got squeezed at the start and dropped far back in that race on a track that may have been mildly biased towards horses that were up close early in a race that flowed heavily towards the front. I thought he'd be a lot closer early yesterday and finish among that top group. He had a wide trip, but I didn't see much else. I have to watch all the replays.

I went down with Santa Cruiser also.
Needless to say, i was disappointed in his race as well.
I think he got a bad ride (again) on Saturday...he needs a jockey that will put him in the race early. He has the pace figs to be among the early leaders but Beschizza chose to settle off the pace. He was 4-5 wide on the first turn, which is death on a tight turning track like FG.
Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree here, and this colt isn't much, but I'd love to see what he can do against Stakes runners if given the ride i think he needs.
Sadly though, i think his Derby trail ended over the weekend, and his connections may seek easier competition.


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