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PaceAdvantage 12-11-2020 11:19 AM

Has our hospital system collapsed yet?
 
Based on this current graph of USA COVID infections from the Johns Hopkins website...one would think there should be bodies lining the streets and packed hospitals across the country with ZERO beds available. Is that the case?

http://www.paceadvantage.com/images/USA_121120.png

Based on the hysteria back in April...and the surge during the summer, what we are currently witnessing in terms of infections absolutely DWARFS those two prior waves.

So...what's the story? Shouldn't our hospital systems have collapsed by now given the above graph? It's absolutely monstrous compared to the first two waves...

lamboguy 12-11-2020 11:35 AM

out dated
 
in Mass. the hospitals were empty before the corona was even a dream... they did re-open 3 hospitals that only have corona patients. one of them i know of, Carney Hospital that is listed at 159 beds. not to sure who the other 2 hospitals are that are corona only facilities.. the western part of the state hardly got hit with the corona.

https://www.mass.gov/doc/command-cen...harts/download

hcap 12-11-2020 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2683561)
Based on this current graph of USA COVID infections from the Johns Hopkins website...one would think there should be bodies lining the streets and packed hospitals across the country with ZERO beds available. Is that the case?

http://www.paceadvantage.com/images/USA_121120.png

Based on the hysteria back in April...and the surge during the summer, what we are currently witnessing in terms of infections absolutely DWARFS those two prior waves.

So...what's the story? Shouldn't our hospital systems have collapsed by now given the above graph? It's absolutely monstrous compared to the first two waves...

Take your head out of the sand. You sound like Kabong

Despicable.

woodtoo 12-11-2020 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hcap (Post 2683572)
Take your head out of the sand. You sound like Kabong

Despicable.

Lame,lame,lame.:rolleyes:

PaceAdvantage 12-11-2020 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hcap (Post 2683572)
Take your head out of the sand. You sound like Kabong

Despicable.

What are you talking about. I've presented FACTS.

And a graph from the highly respected JOHNS HOPKINS site:

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

Look at the graph.

How is it I'm not reading in the news how every single major hospital system in the USA has collapsed under this current HUGE WAVE of COVID infections?

Look at the graph! This current wave absolutely DWARFS the first two...you remember those? Remember back in the spring when you were frothing at the mouth showing me videos of bodies being piled up in REFRIGERATED TRUCKS!

Remember that COVID PORN?

So if it was SO DIRE back then...why hasn't the whole thing collapsed now?

LOOK AT THE GRAPH

Then try to explain, genius. Maybe you can get the other genius, 46zilzal, THE DOCTOR, to help you out.

JerryBoyle 12-11-2020 11:43 AM

What was the goal of this post? Yes, the hospitals are feeling the strain of this and it's getting worse. Sorry, dude, it's not just the flu...

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-are-filling-u

PaceAdvantage 12-11-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryBoyle (Post 2683576)
What was the goal of this post? Yes, the hospitals are feeling the strain of this and it's getting worse. Sorry, dude, it's not just the flu...

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-are-filling-u

Given the panic and hysteria and bodies in refrigerated trucks back in the spring...which was the smallest of the three waves currently on the chart...wouldn't an analytical guy like you surmise, based on the current graph from Johns Hopkins, that we as a nation should have a non-functioning hospital system at this point?

Or were all those stories back in the spring about healthcare Armageddon, nothing but hysteria and hype, just like I said it was.

Apparently, our health care system is way more robust when dealing with COVID then I was lead to believe earlier this year.

Track Collector 12-11-2020 11:48 AM

They have moved the goalposts.

In the very beginning we wanted to flatten the curve and not overwhelm the medical system. Now they want to push vaccines AND continue with behavior controls (i.e. stay at home, wear masks, restrict larger gatherings, etc.).

And the great thing for them is that by using RT-PCR cycle thresholds that are unrealistically high (like 40-45) they can continue to create more (false) positives and manipulate the CASES count thus producing additional virus waves/surges at will.

Here is something interesting:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...covid-19-fear/

JerryBoyle 12-11-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2683578)
Given the panic and hysteria and bodies in refrigerated trucks back in the spring...which was the smallest of the three waves currently on the chart...wouldn't an analytical guy like you surmise, based on the current graph from Johns Hopkins, that we as a nation should have a non-functioning hospital system at this point?

Or were all those stories back in the spring about healthcare Armageddon nothing but hysteria and hype, just like I thought it was.

No, I wouldn't surmise anything from one out of context graph... What I will do is trust experts who are living and dealing with this daily. Thanks, Uncle

PaceAdvantage 12-11-2020 11:49 AM

And why the **** would Jerry Boyle bring up the FLU unless of course he's nothing but a ****ing troll at this point.

Can't address the facts...bring up the flu...:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Whatever smart guy.

JerryBoyle 12-11-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Track Collector (Post 2683580)
They have moved the goalposts.

In the very beginning we wanted to flatten the curve and not overwhelm the medical system. Now they want to push vaccines AND continue with behavior controls (i.e. stay at home, wear masks, restrict larger gatherings, etc.).

And the great thing for them is that by using RT-PCR cycle thresholds that are unrealistically high (like 40-45) they can continue to create more (false) positives and manipulate the CASES count thus producing additional virus waves/surges at will.

Here is something interesting:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com...covid-19-fear/

LOL at behavior control. Wearing a mask...woof.

Maybe a silver lining out of this is that every single person who was pro life before has no choice but to be pro choice now...

PaceAdvantage 12-11-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryBoyle (Post 2683581)
No, I wouldn't surmise anything from one out of context graph... What I will do is trust experts who are living and dealing with this daily. Thanks, Uncle

Out of context graph?

It's the up-to-date graph of COVID infections from the Johns Hopkins website...

Are you saying the following link is a fraud?

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

Somebody should inform Johns Hopkins that the link is stealing their good name.

JerryBoyle 12-11-2020 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2683583)
And why the **** would Jerry Boyle bring up the FLU unless of course he's nothing but a ****ing troll at this point.

Can't address the facts...bring up the flu...:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Whatever smart guy.

Because your opinions are ridiculous and they don't deserve serious consideration. You still act as if it's just the flu or some giant conspiracy to control people. That kind of attitude has had real and pretty awful impact on society...

woodtoo 12-11-2020 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryBoyle (Post 2683587)
Because your opinions are ridiculous and they don't deserve serious consideration. You still act as if it's just the flu or some giant conspiracy to control people. That kind of attitude has had real and pretty awful impact on society...

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

PaceAdvantage 12-11-2020 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryBoyle (Post 2683587)
Because your opinions are ridiculous and they don't deserve serious consideration. You still act as if it's just the flu or some giant conspiracy to control people. That kind of attitude has had real and pretty awful impact on society...

What you just wrote is a lie.

I presented statistical facts from Johns Hopkins in the form of THEIR GRAPH.

I presented you with a GIANT third wave of infections in the USA.

I asked a very sensible question.

If, as I was told by the media over and over again during the FIRST WAVE, how our hospitals were in danger of collapsing under the weight of COVID unless we drastically altered our lives...HOW THE HELL HAVE THE HOSPITALS SURVIVED UP UNTIL THIS POINT....WE ARE ON WAVE 3....WHICH ABSOLUTELY DRAWRFS THE FIRST TWO WAVES.

EXPLAIN IT, GENIUS.

Stop deflecting with your BULLSHIT.


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