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TheOracle 06-09-2018 08:58 AM

Pletcher & Brown 23 Horses Today @BEL -- before scratches!!! who will you have???
 
Who will you root for Team Pletcher or Team Brown?

Pletcher's Team

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/imag...ampletcher.png

Brown's Team

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/imag.../teambrown.png

Should be interesting!!!

I guess this is the new norm for racing!!!

TiffaniO 06-09-2018 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOracle (Post 2326939)
Who will you root for Team Pletcher or Team Brown?

Pletcher's Team

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/imag...ampletcher.png

Brown's Team

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/imag.../teambrown.png

Should be interesting!!!

I guess this is the new norm for racing!!!

Well this is a side effect of allowing uncoupled entries...

I’ll take CB over TP any day and twice on Belmont
Day.

TheOracle 06-09-2018 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiffaniO (Post 2326967)
Well this is a side effect of allowing uncoupled entries...

I’ll take CB over TP any day and twice on Belmont
Day.


Hey TiffaniO


I hear ya I will have the results of the outcomes after today's races are finished!!!


We will see who is who!!!


I am not going with either of them instead I will go with Casse today his barn gives more bang for the buck !!!

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...d.php?t=145350

TheOracle 06-09-2018 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiffaniO (Post 2326967)
Well this is a side effect of allowing uncoupled entries...

I’ll take CB over TP any day and twice on Belmont
Day.

Hey TiffaniO

I guess Pletcher struck first with a punch in the face as #5 Prince Lucky $48.40 across the board!!!

I don’t think Brown can come back and have a bigger answer for that bomb today!!!

We’ll see what’s happens!!!

TiffaniO 06-09-2018 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOracle (Post 2327046)
Hey TiffaniO

I guess Pletcher struck first with a punch in the face as #5 Prince Lucky $48.40 across the board!!!

I don’t think Brown can come back and have a bigger answer for that bomb today!!!

We’ll see what’s happens!!!

Price wise yes...

But I look for a few big wins from CB coming up in the pick 4 sequence!

cj 06-09-2018 03:15 PM

Team Baffert.

TheOracle 06-09-2018 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj (Post 2327131)
Team Baffert.

Hey CJ


Baffert has these today at Belmont

Code:

RowNum:    Date:    Race:    PgmNum:    Horse:    RaceCond:    Distance:    Trainer:    Odds:    Surface
1    06-09-2018    3rd race    6    Abel Tasman (KY)    Stakes    One And One Sixteenth Miles    B Baffert    8/5#    Dirt
                                             
2    06-09-2018    5th race    2    Hoppertunity (KY)    Stakes    One and One Half Miles    B Baffert    5/2#    Dirt
                                             
3    06-09-2018    11th race    1    Justify (KY)    Stakes    One and One Half Miles    B Baffert    4/5#    Dirt
4    06-09-2018    11th race    5    Restoring Hope (KY)    Stakes    One and One Half Miles    B Baffert    30/1#    Dirt

Considering that Baffert has 2 wins already today I don’t think #1 Justify will get it done although #5 Restoring Hope would be a huge price and that would be the only shot he has of overtaking Pletcher today per $2 win place and show wager!!!

We’ll see what happens!!!

TheOracle 06-09-2018 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOracle (Post 2326939)
Who will you root for Team Pletcher or Team Brown?

Pletcher's Team

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/imag...ampletcher.png

Brown's Team

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/imag.../teambrown.png

Should be interesting!!!

I guess this is the new norm for racing!!!

Team Pletcher beat team Brown in terms of less loss percentage per $2 win place and show wager


http://www.insidethenumbers.net/imag...letcherres.png

Pletcher had the better return per $2 win wager at 25%

http://www.insidethenumbers.net/imag...ambrownres.png

If Gronko could have gotten the win Brown would have beaten Pletcher without a doubt

TheOracle 06-09-2018 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj (Post 2327131)
Team Baffert.



Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOracle (Post 2327147)
Hey CJ


Baffert has these today at Belmont

Code:

RowNum:    Date:    Race:    PgmNum:    Horse:    RaceCond:    Distance:    Trainer:    Odds:    Surface
1    06-09-2018    3rd race    6    Abel Tasman (KY)    Stakes    One And One Sixteenth Miles    B Baffert    8/5#    Dirt
                                             
2    06-09-2018    5th race    2    Hoppertunity (KY)    Stakes    One and One Half Miles    B Baffert    5/2#    Dirt
                                             
3    06-09-2018    11th race    1    Justify (KY)    Stakes    One and One Half Miles    B Baffert    4/5#    Dirt
4    06-09-2018    11th race    5    Restoring Hope (KY)    Stakes    One and One Half Miles    B Baffert    30/1#    Dirt

Considering that Baffert has 2 wins already today I don’t think #1 Justify will get it done although #5 Restoring Hope would be a huge price and that would be the only shot he has of overtaking Pletcher today per $2 win place and show wager!!!

We’ll see what happens!!!

Hey CJ


You were right Team Baffert was 2nd only to Motion for Trainers with multiple entries today in terms of win place and show returns per $2 wager across the board!!!


Below are the list of Trainers with positive win place and show returns for today's Belmont Stakes


http://www.insidethenumbers.net/imag...ts/teambel.png


I didn't think Justify would do it today but he proved us all wrong!!!

TheOracle 06-09-2018 11:48 PM

I hope he runs in the Travers at Saratoga so I can take a crack at beating him in the future!!!

TiffaniO 06-10-2018 12:06 AM

I could be wrong but purely on a head to Head basis, as the OP named the thread, I believe Chad Brown’s stable grossed more purse money than the TP Barn today...

TheOracle 06-10-2018 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiffaniO (Post 2327431)
I could be wrong but purely on a head to Head basis, as the OP named the thread, I believe Chad Brown’s stable grossed more purse money than the TP Barn today...


Hey TiffaniO,

I only go by returns on investment per $2 wager!!!

It's a real shame he gets the most purse money when only 3 of 11 in his barn hit the board!!!

This is some sport huh!!!

Can you imagine if other sports gave teams or players added money winning only 3 out of every 11 games?

TiffaniO 06-10-2018 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOracle (Post 2327437)
Hey TiffaniO,

I only go by returns on investment per $2 wager!!!

It's a real shame he gets the most purse money when only 3 of 11 in his barn hit the board!!!

This is some sport huh!!!

Can you imagine if other sports gave teams or players added money winning only 3 out of every 11 games?

Well you didn’t state that in your original post... betting every single horse of any trainer is foolish. CB doesn’t give a darn about how much the horse pays on the tote, he cares about his 10% of the purse.

TheOracle 06-10-2018 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiffaniO (Post 2327443)
Well you didn’t state that in your original post... betting every single horse of any trainer is foolish. CB doesn’t give a darn about how much the horse pays on the tote, he cares about his 10% of the purse.


Yeah, I should have mentioned in that the post but per me I don't care about his purse money I just care about the tote payout per $2 wager usually across the board


Also, I try to see which Trainers are hot or cold in certain situations like Casse on the Turf prior to today's debacle

TiffaniO 06-10-2018 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOracle (Post 2327446)
Yeah, I should have mentioned in that the post but per me I don't care about his purse money I just care about the tote payout per $2 wager usually across the board


Also, I try to see which Trainers are hot or cold in certain situations like Casse on the Turf prior to today's debacle

Well on big days, you’ll notice certain trainers aren’t able to push the envelope like they can on a normal race day.

And for what it’s worth, TP only had 5 of 12 on the board and his only win was in a 150k stake. Basically the same as an allowance race today.


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