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Afleet 06-23-2018 01:34 AM

Mystic Lake Derby
 
Canterbury Park STAKES

Purse $200,000. (Includes $100,000 – Mystic Lake Purse Enhancement Fund). For Three Year Olds. One Mile. (Turf)


:1: Curlin's Honor (FL) 3/C BL G Boulanger 116 M E Casse 5/1

:2: Nobrag Justfact (KY) 3/C BL J Graham 116 E L Heitzmann 15/1

:3: Cowboy Creed (KY) 3/C BL R Eikleberry 116 N Litfin 15/1

:4: United Patriot (OK) 3/R BL O Mojica 116 R Diodoro 12/1

:5: Mr. Jagermeister (MN) 3/C BL L D Goncalves 116 V Lund 8/1

:6: Captivating Moon (KY) 3/C BL C H Marquez, Jr. 116 C M Block 7/2

:7: Hardboot (CA) 3/C BL D P Butler 122 M Dollase 10/1

:8: Navy Armed Guard (KY) 3/G BL J Loveberry 116 J Scott 20/1

:9: Dubby Dubbie (KY) 3/G BL A Beschizza 122 M Lovell 15/1

:10: Sniper Kitten (KY) 3/C BL T Gaffalione 122 M J Maker 10/1

:11: Playoff Bound (KY) 3/G BL F Arrieta 116 R Diodoro 20/1

:12: Hyndford (KY) 3/C BL S Gonzalez 122 R Diodoro 12/1

:13: Reride (KY) 3/C BL R A Vazquez 122 S M Asmussen 6/1

:14: Primo Touch (KY) 3/G BL A R Ramgeet 120 D L McFarlane 20/1

What a tough race. Curlins Honor went for the cool sum of $1.5 million, trained by Casse, should take money. ML favorite Captivating Moon comes from the clouds and could have a wall of horses in front of him in the stretch. Diodoro has three horses in the race and a 23% winning percentage at Canterbury. Cowboy creed seems to be improving, but has never been on turf. Asmussen's Reride got a bad draw in post 13 and first start since Dubai after losing to Mendolssohn. Hyndford was previously trained by Pletcher-not sure if thats a good or bad angle. Ramsey sends out another son of Kittens Joy, Sniper Kitten who has won his last two races. California shipper Hardboot 3rd off a short layoff. Wish I had some brilliant insight, but I have no idea who is going to win and will push the all button in the pick 4.

Immortal6 06-23-2018 11:31 AM

If I had to narrow it down to two in the win spot I would have to go with the :6: Captivating Moon, as there appears to be plenty of pace in the race and he looks to be the best closer. Also like the :10: Sniper Kitten. Looks to be steadily improving for Mike Maker with Gaffalione up is enough for me. I also like the :12::13::14: but they all look like they need the lead or to be damn close to it to win and coming from the outside will need to be hard used to clear the field before the 1st turn.

:6::10:/:6::10::12::13::14: Exacta and Trifecta

Win bet on :6: at >9/2
Win bet on :10: at >7-1

Good luck.

Lemon Drop Husker 06-23-2018 11:54 AM

Interesting race with an interesting field.


:7::10:

arw629 06-23-2018 02:29 PM

Imo Curlin’s Honor and Reride are the two I’d rely on and maybe Cowboy Creed as a super long shot.

jay68802 06-23-2018 03:21 PM

Give it shot in a pick 3.


Race #4: :2::5::7::8::10: / :3::4::5::6::12::13::14: / :5:

jay68802 06-23-2018 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jay68802 (Post 2332792)
Give it shot in a pick 3.


Race #4: :2::5::7::8::10: / :3::4::5::6::12::13::14: / :5:

Depending on odds, win bets on the :5::12::13:

JohnGalt1 06-23-2018 03:59 PM

:9: Dubby Dubby scratched.

I went to Cby this morning t0 place all my bets my bets, since I can't bet at home, and a 6 PM starting time is too late for me.

I bet 60% win on:6: Captivating Moon and 40% win on n :1: Curlin's Honor.

Pick 3 I used :1::6::7::9:/:2::5::6:/:1::2::5::6:

Other early scratches---

Race 1---:4::8:

Race 2---:1:

Race 3---:1:

Race 4---:12:

Race 6---:1:

Race 7---:2::3: I bet the :2: at 8-1 ML. So I'll get to cash at least one ticket.

Race 8---:4:

Robert Fischer 06-23-2018 05:15 PM

Wasn't impressed by :1: CURLINS HONOR last time out. I'm not saying that he ran badly, merely that he did not impress me. Kind of 'flowed up' late after the Pletcher horse in that race(Gidu?) proved best. Can hit the board or even win, but I'm thinking he'll be a top public choice and I want to leave the door open for him should he want to exit my ticket.


Diodoro draws my immediate interest.

Looking at the 4, I don't see much horse. Brad Cox is no slouch and seemed to find his class level. Class seems a touch steep here. Pace factor?
11 seems to be worse than a couple other locals.
12 Hyndford is Diodoro's most interesting. Afterthought in Pletcher barn seems to have been sent to Diodoro for this race. Not in love with this trio, but I'll probably use the 12...

:13: RERIDE looks to be the 'key'. Legit stakes horse. Post does not bother me. Plenty of time before the turn and enough tactical speed to find a spot.

:6: CAPTIVATING MOON gets another good setup here. Not super impressive, but he's shown consistency. I could use him as a key underneath.

Projects hot and competitive early.


50CENT TRI 13/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/6 =$6
50CENT TRI 13/6/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12 =$6
50CENT TRI 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/13/6 =$6

DIME SUPER 13/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/6 =$5.60
DIME SUPER 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/13/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/6 =$5.60
DIME SUPER 13/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/6/ALL =$8
DIME SUPER 13/6/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/ALL =$8
DIME SUPER 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/13/6/ALL =$8

TOTAL = $53.20

Tom 06-23-2018 06:08 PM

I'll take a shot with

:5: 60% W
:13: 40% W
:1:

Ex Box the three

098poi 06-23-2018 08:36 PM

I'll go with the :5:

woodtoo 06-23-2018 09:32 PM

nice field :7: Hardboot/w :3::5:

Robert Fischer 06-23-2018 09:33 PM

50CENT TRI 13/123567101214/2612=$13.50
50CENT TRI 123567101214/13/2612=$13.50
DIME $UPER 13/1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10, 12,14/ALL/2,6,12=$24
$49 TO SHOW ON 13 (who says never bet show)
$20 WIN RERIDE
TOTAL =$120

changing/cancelling previous wager after seeing odds.

Good price RERIDE underlay 10
good price 2,12


Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Fischer (Post 2332868)
Wasn't impressed by :1: CURLINS HONOR last time out. I'm not saying that he ran badly, merely that he did not impress me. Kind of 'flowed up' late after the Pletcher horse in that race(Gidu?) proved best. Can hit the board or even win, but I'm thinking he'll be a top public choice and I want to leave the door open for him should he want to exit my ticket.


Diodoro draws my immediate interest.

Looking at the 4, I don't see much horse. Brad Cox is no slouch and seemed to find his class level. Class seems a touch steep here. Pace factor?
11 seems to be worse than a couple other locals.
12 Hyndford is Diodoro's most interesting. Afterthought in Pletcher barn seems to have been sent to Diodoro for this race. Not in love with this trio, but I'll probably use the 12...

:13: RERIDE looks to be the 'key'. Legit stakes horse. Post does not bother me. Plenty of time before the turn and enough tactical speed to find a spot.

:6: CAPTIVATING MOON gets another good setup here. Not super impressive, but he's shown consistency. I could use him as a key underneath.

Projects hot and competitive early.


50CENT TRI 13/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/6 =$6
50CENT TRI 13/6/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12 =$6
50CENT TRI 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/13/6 =$6

DIME SUPER 13/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/6 =$5.60
DIME SUPER 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/13/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/6 =$5.60
DIME SUPER 13/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/6/ALL =$8
DIME SUPER 13/6/1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/ALL =$8
DIME SUPER 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12/13/6/ALL =$8

TOTAL = $53.20


098poi 06-23-2018 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lemon Drop Husker (Post 2332693)
Interesting race with an interesting field.


:7::10:


Ding! :ThmbUp:

Tom 06-23-2018 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Immortal6 (Post 2332680)
If I had to narrow it down to two in the win spot I would have to go with the :6: Captivating Moon, as there appears to be plenty of pace in the race and he looks to be the best closer. Also like the :10: Sniper Kitten. Looks to be steadily improving for Mike Maker with Gaffalione up is enough for me. I also like the :12::13::14: but they all look like they need the lead or to be damn close to it to win and coming from the outside will need to be hard used to clear the field before the 1st turn.

:6::10:/:6::10::12::13::14: Exacta and Trifecta

Win bet on :6: at >9/2
Win bet on :10: at >7-1

Good luck.

Nice!

Immortal6 06-23-2018 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom (Post 2333008)
Nice!

Thanks. Too bad the :2: had to go and ruin what would have been a chalky tri and super :D thanks to my $10 win bets regardless of what I thought were fair odds on the :6: and :10: I only lost $12 on the race :bang:


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