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BIG49010 07-04-2012 10:02 PM

Racing Cancellations, Post Here, no commentary
 
Fyi with the heat AP moved their post time to 5:00 PM

http://www.arlingtonpark.com/news/ar...5-moved-500-pm

cj 07-04-2012 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG49010
Fyi with the heat AP moved their post time to 5:00 PM

http://www.arlingtonpark.com/news/ar...5-moved-500-pm

How will anyone know what time it is at Arlington with the current timer in place?

sammy the sage 07-04-2012 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj
How will anyone know what time it is at Arlington with the current timer in place?

:lol: :D

http://www.paceadvantage.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=94680

Striker 07-04-2012 11:50 PM

They need to do the same on Friday even though that would just move the start time back 2 hours. Friday is supposed to be the hottest(only by a little bit) day of this week.

Valuist 07-04-2012 11:53 PM

Wouldn't be surprised if they cancel Thursday. Only reason they ran today was the crowd they get for the fireworks show is large.

I've been in Las Vegas when its been 115 and today at 102 w/humidity felt worse.

Wagergirl 07-05-2012 12:43 PM

Penn National moving friday card to later start.
 
Hollywood Casino at Penn National Race Course will move its first race post time from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m. Friday, July 6, and Saturday, July 7, in an effort to minimize the effects of the heat wave that is dominating the mid-Atlantic region.

rastajenk 07-05-2012 12:54 PM

Seems to me if you want to beat the heat, you'd move the post time up a couple hours to an a.m. start, not back into the hottest part of the day.

Wagergirl 07-05-2012 01:01 PM

maybe by moving it later they are trying to not compete with the tracks that run in the morning or earlier in the day (I am on the west coast.. so it's still morning here).

Canarsie 07-05-2012 01:06 PM

Delaware Park Cancels Live Racing for July 7
 

cj 07-05-2012 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagergirl
maybe by moving it later they are trying to not compete with the tracks that run in the morning or earlier in the day (I am on the west coast.. so it's still morning here).

The article clearly states the move is due to heat.

jerry-g 07-05-2012 01:14 PM

I moved to Florida so I could get some heat. However, this year up North
it seems to me that the heat is really bad. Did a car not go airborne
due to the pavement buckling and have some people not dropped
dead due to the heat? It just seems like a very unusual weather
phenomenon is taking place and everyone should take heed. I think
it is a safety issue and not a joke.

Wagergirl 07-05-2012 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj
The article clearly states the move is due to heat.

yes I know that. Rastajenk asked why they didn't move it to earlier in the day as opposed to later in the day. My suggestions was so they didn't have to compete with other tracks. Although depending on how much notice, it's probably easier to move to a later time than an earlier time. The logistics of notifying everyone that the races will be starting early must be a nightmare.

cj 07-05-2012 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagergirl
yes I know that. Rastajenk asked why they didn't move it to earlier in the day as opposed to later in the day. My suggestions was so they didn't have to compete with other tracks. Although depending on how much notice, it's probably easier to move to a later time than an earlier time. The logistics of notifying everyone that the races will be starting early must be a nightmare.

Sorry, I missed that. I agree, an earlier post would be a disaster.

rastajenk 07-05-2012 01:57 PM

Well of course it would hurt the handle and piss off handicappers (but what doesn't?), and maybe some ship-ins would have to scratch, if they hadn't already; but it wouldn't be that difficult to start two hours earlier, pay out the purses to keep the local economy going, and just put it in the books as better than a lost day, and move on. It might cause our Mr Goren to blow a fuse trying to rationalize it all, but it could be done. :D

Tom 07-05-2012 02:23 PM

They used to start at 7:30.....when it was really night racing.
People who work just don't get home in time for a lot these so called night tracks. I used top play Penn every single night. Haven't played it all in several years now.

cj 07-05-2012 03:26 PM

So far we have:

AP, 7-5, post time 5:00
Pen, 7-6 and 7-7, post time 7:00
Del, 7-7, Canx

therussmeister 07-05-2012 05:13 PM

To me moving to night racing isn't much of a bargain. Often, as soon as the sun goes down the humidity goes up. Makes it very difficult to cool down after physical activity.

Tom 07-05-2012 09:05 PM

This is an affront to Goren!!!!

thespaah 07-05-2012 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj
How will anyone know what time it is at Arlington with the current timer in place?

That's flippin HILARIOUS... :lol: :1: !!!!!!

thespaah 07-05-2012 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry-g
I moved to Florida so I could get some heat. However, this year up North
it seems to me that the heat is really bad. Did a car not go airborne
due to the pavement buckling and have some people not dropped
dead due to the heat? It just seems like a very unusual weather
phenomenon is taking place and everyone should take heed. I think
it is a safety issue and not a joke.

Yep..In Wisconsin.
BTW, today was the first round of the US Women's Open Golf Tourney.
Today it was over 100 degrees there for 5 hours. The tourney site is about 100 miles north of Chicago.
Checked the daily climate records for the East Coast. Basically every station south of Albany, NY was well above normal temp today. JFK Airport was 95.
Wilmington, DE hit 98....Same nonsense for the Balto/Wash area.

affirmedny 07-06-2012 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom
They used to start at 7:30.....when it was really night racing.
People who work just don't get home in time for a lot these so called night tracks. I used top play Penn every single night. Haven't played it all in several years now.

If you notice, it's mostly slot tracks that have those ridiculous early post times. I guess if you don't care about handle the object is to get the races over as quickly as possible. I prefer 8 pm like the old days.

Robert Goren 07-06-2012 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom
They used to start at 7:30.....when it was really night racing.
People who work just don't get home in time for a lot these so called night tracks. I used top play Penn every single night. Haven't played it all in several years now.

Tom is right. If they truely wanted to avoid the heat, a 7:30 post time would be a lot more reasonable. Most of time, the temperature has moved at least 5 or 6 degrees of it highs by 7:30. I would have no problem with a 7:30 PT if they did it for heat related reasons. It show some real concern about the horses. It would probably cost some handle, but it is a reasonable compromise. I doubt if any race track will do it. It makes too much sense.

rastajenk 07-06-2012 07:41 AM

You are one odd bird. :p

Tom 07-06-2012 07:57 AM

I was not suggesting anything about heat, only convenience for those who work all day.

lamboguy 07-06-2012 10:56 AM

deleware cancelled Parx cancel's
 
saturday's cards

they are doing the right thing in both cases. i know that some people will say that they did not cancel like this years ago. years ago they didn't use lassix either, something that de-hydrates the horses. in this kind of weather it is unhealthy for the horse. its unhealthy for humans as well that are on lassix. the air is very heavy and full of insects that you breath.

cj 07-06-2012 10:59 AM

AP, 7-5, post time 5:00
Pen, 7-6 and 7-7, post time 7:00
Del, 7-7, Canx
Prx, 7-7, Canx

Vinman 07-06-2012 12:14 PM

Heat Cancellations?
 
Monmouth is holding a handicapping contest Sat., with the 500K United Nations as the feature. Contest will be rescheduled if Monmouth does not run a live card. Other contest tracks are Belmont & Calder.

Spoke to someone in their racing office about an hour ago re the possibility of cancellation tomorrow. It is being discussed. He would not say when a decision would be made one way or the other, but did mention they are mindful of trainers shipping in for tomorrow. I told him I'd call back around 5.

Anyone hear what Belmont is doing for tomorrow?

Vinman

MickJ26 07-06-2012 01:07 PM

Supposed to be near 100 degrees on Saturday with the heat index well over that. I hope they cancel.

stuball 07-06-2012 01:11 PM

TIME
 
Give me 1 good reason why they could not run the races at night and let me bet on them the next day. an obvious solution...no?

Stuball

Vinman 07-06-2012 01:12 PM

With Delaware & Parx cancelling Sat. I'd be very surprised if Monmouth didn't follow suit. Last year Monmouth cancelled multiple cards on opening weekend at Saratoga, which did run.

Vinman

Beachbabe 07-06-2012 01:16 PM

Monmouth, being near the seashore, could experience less oppressive heat indexes than the more land-locked tracks tomorrow.........maybe.

highnote 07-06-2012 01:41 PM

According to Edward Hotaling in his book "They're Off! Horse Racing at Saratoga" racing at Saratoga in the 1800s took place during the morning with the first post at 10:00 AM. This is a good idea. It's cooler then. The horses are on a morning schedule and this frees up the evenings for social time (for the people -- not the horses).

A little digression:

August 14, 1847 was the first day of organized racing at Saratoga. The Old Gray Mare trotted onto the track about 3:30 PM and won her race against the male Moscow. Moscow pulled a two wheel sulky. The 14 year old mare pulled a 4 wheel sulky.

She won the best-of-5 one-mile heats.

MaTH716 07-06-2012 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highnote
According to Edward Hotaling in his book "They're Off! Horse Racing at Saratoga" racing at Saratoga in the 1800s took place during the morning with the first post at 10:00 AM. This is a good idea. It's cooler then. The horses are on a morning schedule and this frees up the evenings for social time (for the people -- not the horses).

A little digression:

August 14, 1847 was the first day of organized racing at Saratoga. The Old Gray Mare trotted onto the track about 3:30 PM and won her race against the male Moscow. Moscow pulled a two wheel sulky. The 14 year old mare pulled a 4 wheel sulky.

She won the best-of-5 one-mile heats.

Wow, I bet the people simulcasting in California were cranky. You know having to wake up at 6 to go play Spa races....................... :rolleyes:

Wagergirl 07-06-2012 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716
Wow, I bet the people simulcasting in California were cranky. You know having to wake up at 6 to go play Spa races....................... :rolleyes:

:lol:

Vinman 07-06-2012 04:04 PM

Just got off the phone with Brian Skirka at Monmouth, who will be running the handicapping contest tomorrow. He said they won't decide whether or not to cancel until tomorrow morning.

If there is no live racing at Monmouth tomorrow, he said the contest will be rescheduled.

Vinman

cj 07-06-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cj
AP, 7-5, post time 5:00
Pen, 7-6 and 7-7, post time 7:00
Del, 7-7, Canx
Prx, 7-7, Canx

Adding:

CT, 7-8, Canx

highnote 07-06-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716
Wow, I bet the people simulcasting in California were cranky. You know having to wake up at 6 to go play Spa races....................... :rolleyes:


How did they get the satellites into space to simulcast the races back in the 1800s? The first coast-to-coast telegraph was not sent until the 1880s. Maybe they sent a DVD by Pony Express?

Californians still have to get up at 6:00 AM to play the first race of the Breeders' Cup when it the first post is 10:00 AM. Nothing new here.

Wagergirl 07-06-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highnote
How did they get the satellites into space to simulcast the races back in the 1800s? The first coast-to-coast telegraph was not sent until the 1880s. Maybe they sent a DVD by Pony Express?

Californians still have to get up at 6:00 AM to play the first race of the Breeders' Cup when it the first post is 10:00 AM. Nothing new here.


missing the sarcasm huh....:confused:

highnote 07-06-2012 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wagergirl
missing the sarcasm huh....:confused:


Nope. I was just playing along. DVD by Pony Express was pretty funny, I thought. Of course, I do tend to be the first to laugh at my own jokes. :D

Wagergirl 07-06-2012 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highnote
Nope. I was just playing along. DVD by Pony Express was pretty funny, I thought. Of course, I do tend to be the first to laugh at my own jokes. :D

I suffer from that issue myself at times. :-)


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