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JustRalph 08-02-2021 12:26 PM

Understand now? Vaccine hesitancy
 

Marshall Bennett 08-02-2021 01:20 PM

I can't trust the crooked bastards now in charge. Until there's a better moral character to the people distributing a vaccine ( or anything else for that matter) I'll take care of myself and screw them.
They are the root cause of the virus, now they want to serve us an antidote.
Good luck with that.

Jeff P 08-02-2021 01:46 PM

Is there even one topic global elites on the left haven't been outright GASLIGHTING us about since (I don't know) the runup to Brexit?

I'm asking for a friend. :rolleyes:


-jp

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Elkchester Road 08-02-2021 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett (Post 2742935)
I can't trust the crooked bastards now in charge. Until there's a better moral character to the people distributing a vaccine ( or anything else for that matter) I'll take care of myself and screw them.
They are the root cause of the virus, now they want to serve us an antidote.
Good luck with that.

Excellent, excellent point, Marshall Bennett.

They...are...the...root...cause...of...the...Virus .

Elkchester Road 08-02-2021 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff P (Post 2742941)
Is there even one topic global elites on the left haven't been outright GASLIGHTING us about since (I don't know) the runup to Brexit?

I'm asking for a friend. :rolleyes:


-jp

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Good point Jeff. :ThmbUp::ThmbUp::ThmbUp:

46zilzal 08-02-2021 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett (Post 2742935)
I can't trust the crooked bastards now in charge. Until there's a better moral character to the people distributing a vaccine ( or anything else for that matter) I'll take care of myself and screw them.
They are the root cause of the virus, now they want to serve us an antidote.
Good luck with that.

One of the most IGNORANT statements ever placed on this site

Go around unvaccinated and you have an enormous chance of getting sick

jimmyb 08-02-2021 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 46zilzal (Post 2742964)
One of the most IGNORANT statements ever placed on this site

Go around unvaccinated and you have an enormous chance of getting sick


I understand Marshalls point. It's hard to trust the powers that be when the protocols keep changing. We also have vaccinated people with breakthrough virus.



It's the unknown long term side effects of the vaccine and the vaccinated still getting sick that has me worried. I have been vaccinated BTW

PaceAdvantage 08-02-2021 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRalph (Post 2742925)

Agree. Thanks for posting it.

And it's not really all that long...

Marshall Bennett 08-02-2021 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 46zilzal (Post 2742964)
One of the most IGNORANT statements ever placed on this site

Go around unvaccinated and you have an enormous chance of getting sick

I actually believe I had a mild case, ran a fever 100-103) for a few days and basically went thru maybe half the symptoms. I wasn't about to be hospitalized and I didn't want my doctor (a really cool guy) insisting I be vaccinated. Also, I'm not around many people, and am careful when I get groceries.
As for most IGNORANT post...you and mosty post far worse on nearly a daily basis. Anyway, what the far-left finds ignorant doesn't effect the overall score of the average human being.
Your people are freakin all ignorant!!

fast4522 08-02-2021 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marshall Bennett (Post 2742935)
I can't trust the crooked bastards now in charge. Until there's a better moral character to the people distributing a vaccine ( or anything else for that matter) I'll take care of myself and screw them.
They are the root cause of the virus, now they want to serve us an antidote.
Good luck with that.

I can go with all that, but I think some are really not taking a big risk depending on age and other factors considering to take the vaccines. Generally speaking I do not flu shot at all in the last 10+ years, my doctor near my age does not either and we had a interesting conversation on that. So I think the Covid-19 shots are just that and it is a reasonable expectation not really anything extra. Once Covid-19 shots become a product to be outsourced to lower cost regions I am not going to be a recipient. These vaccines were done in record time with good intentions, this administration did everything to bungle the rollout and is still shooting itself in the feet.

mostpost 08-02-2021 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustRalph (Post 2742925)

Long, but very dumb thread. Every single post in that thread is by the same person. Brexit passed after the polls said it wouldn’t. All that proves is polls can be wrong.
Hillary lost when polls said she would win. 1. Hillary was a terrible candidate. 2. Trump colluded with Russia. 3. Hillary got three million more votes than Trump and only lost because of our antiquated election system.

Fake news about George Floyd. Fake news about what Kamala Harris said about vaccines. Fake news about the Mueller Report.

No connection between any of the above and getting vaccinated.

mostpost 08-02-2021 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 46zilzal (Post 2742964)
One of the most IGNORANT statements ever placed on this site

Go around unvaccinated and you have an enormous chance of getting sick

Not surprising considering the author.

AndyC 08-02-2021 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mostpost (Post 2743000)
Long, but very dumb thread. Every single post in that thread is by the same person. Brexit passed after the polls said it wouldn’t. All that proves is polls can be wrong.
Hillary lost when polls said she would win. 1. Hillary was a terrible candidate. 2. Trump colluded with Russia. 3. Hillary got three million more votes than Trump and only lost because of our antiquated election system.

Fake news about George Floyd. Fake news about what Kamala Harris said about vaccines. Fake news about the Mueller Report.

No connection between any of the above and getting vaccinated.


Are you really this obtuse?


The connection is that what we have been fed through the mainstream media and by politicians has been wrong so often that a reasonable person would not or should not believe much about what is being dished out about Covid 19 and vaccinations.

Jeff P 08-02-2021 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 46zilzal (Post 2742964)
One of the most IGNORANT statements ever placed on this site

Go around unvaccinated and you have an enormous chance of getting sick

Healthy people with no comorbitities have an enormous chance of recovering.

There's also a thing called natural immunity afterwards.



Op-Ed: Quit Ignoring Natural COVID Immunity:
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/92836

Quote:

— Antibody testing and proof of prior infection can allow more people to return to normal

by Jeffrey Klausner, MD, MPH, and Noah Kojima, MD May 28, 2021

Earlier this month the World Health Organization released a scientific update stating that most people who have recovered from COVID-19 develop a strong protective immune response. Importantly, they summarize that within 4 weeks of infection, 90% to 99% of people who recover from COVID-19 develop detectable neutralizing antibodies. Furthermore, they conclude -- given the limited amount of time to observe cases -- that the immune response remains strong for at least 6 to 8 months after infection.

This update echoes what the NIH reported in January 2021: The immune response of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to 8 months after infection. The NIH went further to state that those findings "provide hope" that people who get vaccinated will develop similar lasting immunity.

So why are we so focused on vaccine-induced immunity -- in our goals to reach herd immunity, our gatekeeping on travel, public or private events, or mask use -- while ignoring natural immunity? Shouldn't those who have natural immunity also be able to return to "normal" activities?

Numerous scientists have found that there is a decreased risk of re-infection and extremely low rates of hospitalization and death due to repeat infection. The range of reduction of re-infection from COVID-19 was between 82% to 95% among six studies that encompassed nearly 1 million people conducted in the U.S., the U.K., Denmark, Austria, Qatar, and among U.S. Marines. The study in Austria also found that the frequency of re-infection from COVID-19 caused hospitalization in only five out of 14,840 (0.03%) people and death in one out of 14,840 (0.01%).


-jp

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boxcar 08-02-2021 08:19 PM

[QUOTE=Jeff P;2743005]Healthy people with no comorbitities have an enormous chance of recovering.

There's also a thing called natural immunity afterwards.



Op-Ed: Quit Ignoring Natural COVID Immunity:
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/92836

Thanks to whistleblower, we know WHO declared several months ago that basically there's no longer such an animal, any longer, as "herd immunity". :rolleyes:

GaryG 08-02-2021 09:28 PM

I have no plans to get vaccinated, even though Pfizer can make a blue pill that raises the dead.

Light 08-02-2021 09:48 PM

Trump is vaccinated. So is Melania and so are his kids. How come he had no vaccine hesitancy? Did Trump and his family succumb to the "powers that be?"

Wow,its like scary man to get the vaccine. Really? You know what's scarier:

Covid is killing Republicans in Republican states at an above average rate right now with Delta. If you want to elect Trump again,you ain't going to have enough voters.

Do the math.When a few thousand made a difference in AZ and GA and this disease has killed hundreds of thousands, its 4 more years of bitching from you guys. But it will be your own fault.

fast4522 08-02-2021 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 2743038)
Trump is vaccinated. So is Melania and so are his kids. How come he had no vaccine hesitancy? Did Trump and his family succumb to the "powers that be?"

Wow,its like scary man to get the vaccine. Really? You know what's scarier:

Covid is killing Republicans in Republican states at an above average rate right now with Delta. If you want to elect Trump again,you ain't going to have enough voters.

Do the math.When a few thousand made a difference in AZ and GA and this disease has killed hundreds of thousands, its 4 more years of bitching from you guys. But it will be your own fault.

Where do you think those illegal aliens who have Covid-19 are going, republican households? They are traveling to others who made the trip and not got the shots too. In all fairness suggesting that you know who will live or die because the color of the state and how it votes holds less water than other posts from other people.

davew 08-02-2021 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast4522 (Post 2743041)
Where do you think those illegal aliens who have Covid-19 are going, republican households? They are traveling to others who made the trip and not got the shots too. In all fairness suggesting that you know who will live or die because the color of the state and how it votes holds less water than other posts from other people.

they are congregating together to make killer mutations, since they are from all over the world and stressed

fast4522 08-02-2021 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davew (Post 2743044)
they are congregating together to make killer mutations, since they are from all over the world and stressed

We are horse players first right? So very little bullshit gets a pass or your saying "Gee I missed that"

davew 08-02-2021 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 2743038)
Covid is killing Republicans in Republican states at an above average rate right now with Delta. If you want to elect Trump again,you ain't going to have enough voters.

Do the math.When a few thousand made a difference in AZ and GA and this disease has killed hundreds of thousands, its 4 more years of bitching from you guys. But it will be your own fault.


the extra Rs dying are offset by the city gang war deaths

I also doubt your Rs data is backed up with anything

Light 08-02-2021 11:14 PM

Lets see who kills more. You take the thugs in Chicago with guns and I'll take Covid.

Score: 600,000 deaths for Covid. Your thugs killed 400. Trump ain't going to make it with your dumb ass math.

PaceAdvantage 08-02-2021 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 2743038)
Trump is vaccinated. So is Melania and so are his kids. How come he had no vaccine hesitancy? Did Trump and his family succumb to the "powers that be?"

Wow,its like scary man to get the vaccine. Really? You know what's scarier:

Covid is killing Republicans in Republican states at an above average rate right now with Delta. If you want to elect Trump again,you ain't going to have enough voters.

Do the math.When a few thousand made a difference in AZ and GA and this disease has killed hundreds of thousands, its 4 more years of bitching from you guys. But it will be your own fault.

The funny thing is, you are still operating under the belief that we care much about Trump.

Oh wait...that's right...you think he's our God.

Jesus...talk about living in a dream world.

PaceAdvantage 08-02-2021 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 2743053)
Lets see who kills more. You take the thugs in Chicago with guns and I'll take Covid.

Score: 600,000 deaths for Covid. Your thugs killed 400. Trump ain't going to make it with your dumb ass math.

Funny you bring this up.

Last month in Chicago, murders beat out COVID deaths 105-35

In DC in July, murders beat COVID 21-8

It's obvious you don't care about people.

fast4522 08-02-2021 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 2743053)
Lets see who kills more. You take the thugs in Chicago with guns and I'll take Covid.

Score: 600,000 deaths for Covid. Your thugs killed 400. Trump ain't going to make it with your dumb ass math.

$100M

Why is he raising money?

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/0...million-501958

Light 08-02-2021 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast4522 (Post 2743041)
Where do you think those illegal aliens who have Covid-19 are going, republican households? They are traveling to others who made the trip and not got the shots too.

So Aliens are the cause of Covid?

Where do you get this stuff? Wait don't tell me. I know.

Light 08-02-2021 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2743055)
Funny you bring this up.

Last month in Chicago, murders beat out COVID deaths 105-35

In DC in July, murders beat COVID 21-8

It's obvious you don't care about people.

You guys make me laugh, grasping at anything you can. Even if what you said is true, you know that the TOTAL Covid deaths are mammoth compared to gun violence in Chicago.

Oh, I don't care about people (LOL). You are the hatchet man around here banning 100 liberals for every 1 conservative. I am open to all people.

fast4522 08-02-2021 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 2743061)
So Aliens are the cause of Covid?

Where do you get this stuff? Wait don't tell me. I know.

So what post did I say that, but I do think Fauci should be top of the list if they were to bring back My Favorite Martian

PaceAdvantage 08-02-2021 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 2743063)
You guys make me laugh, grasping at anything you can. Even if what you said is true, you know that the TOTAL Covid deaths are mammoth compared to gun violence in Chicago.

Oh, I don't care about people (LOL). You are the hatchet man around here banning 100 liberals for every 1 conservative. I am open to all people.

My best stuff comes from liberals...like CANCEL CULTURE

Don't like what people say? CANCEL THEM

What? You don't like it?

PaceAdvantage 08-02-2021 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 2743063)
You guys make me laugh, grasping at anything you can. Even if what you said is true, you know that the TOTAL Covid deaths are mammoth compared to gun violence in Chicago.

Oh, I don't care about people (LOL). You are the hatchet man around here banning 100 liberals for every 1 conservative. I am open to all people.

Total COVID deaths are DWARFED by smoking deaths.

613,000 in a year and a half dead from COVID in USA?

Pffffftttttt....try 500,000 EVERY SINGLE YEAR...in the US alone...from smoking a legal consumer product DEATH BRINGER

It's obvious you don't care about people.

PaceAdvantage 08-03-2021 12:02 AM

JOHNS HOPKINS SHOULD PUT UP A FANCY FEAR-PORN WEBSITE DETAILING SMOKING RELATED DEATHS...maybe people will stop smoking...since they are so scared of FANCY FEAR-PORN COVID charts and graphs...

The whole thing (COVID) is basically CRIMINAL at this point.

PaceAdvantage 08-03-2021 12:04 AM

This is my new favorite video...I think I'll spam it:


Light 08-03-2021 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2743054)
The funny thing is, you are still operating under the belief that we care much about Trump.

Oh wait...that's right...you think he's our God.

Jesus...talk about living in a dream world.

OK tell me you don't care about Trump. That you don't believe all his lies. Cold day in Hell when that happens.

And yes, you and all your cronies here are a microcosm of the Trump Republicans. This is a cult,period. Because Trump shapes your thoughts, beliefs and morals.

You guys do not think for yourselves anymore. Its a fact only 45% of Republicans believe in science and you believe any unproven conspiracy theories that makes the other side look bad and your side look good no matter how absurd it is.

Trumpies can't wait for 2024 when their idol makes his return. To Trump Republicans its like the second coming of Christ. (LOL)

PaceAdvantage 08-03-2021 12:06 AM

The only reason I like Trump is because HE MAKES YOU INSANE

Trump is, indeed, a USEFUL IDIOT

Light 08-03-2021 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2743066)
Total COVID deaths are DWARFED by smoking deaths.

613,000 in a year and a half dead from COVID in USA?

Pffffftttttt....try 500,000 EVERY SINGLE YEAR...in the US alone...from smoking a legal consumer product DEATH BRINGER

It's obvious you don't care about people.

Smoking is voluntary, Covid is not.

Why do you want to switch the topic from Covid deaths to smoking deaths?

Sweep it under the rug? Why?

Talk about not giving a crap about people, you are numero uno. 600,000 deaths and you have no sympathy.

fast4522 08-03-2021 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 2743070)
OK tell me you don't care about Trump. That you don't believe all his lies. Cold day in Hell when that happens.

And yes, you and all your cronies here are a microcosm of the Trump Republicans. This is a cult,period. Because Trump shapes your thoughts, beliefs and morals.

You guys do not think for yourselves anymore. Its a fact only 45% of Republicans believe in science and you believe any unproven conspiracy theories that makes the other side look bad and your side look good no matter how absurd it is.

Trumpies can't wait for 2024 when their idol makes his return. To Trump Republicans its like the second coming of Christ. (LOL)

First you have to understand that it is not that we care about Trump, it is more like we do not care about you. Long before Trump tossed his hat into the Presidential arena and Obama was President I was arguing with a fellow here about taxes, my argument was cutting taxes for small business and regulations meant to favor big business. Looking for who I was arguing with to see if still around I found everything but and the skinny on you. So the owner has a fit that I still don't understand about old threads and why. So why I tell you this is before Trump, I was looking for someone like him to do what he did. It does not matter what his name is, I want America first.

jay68802 08-03-2021 12:19 AM

100+ murders in Chicago last month, 39 deaths from covid.......

PaceAdvantage 08-03-2021 12:20 AM

Do you....see it....yet?

:lol:

PaceAdvantage 08-03-2021 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Light (Post 2743073)
Smoking is voluntary, Covid is not.

Smoking is NOT voluntary. You're a liberal. Where is your compassion?

Cigarettes are a proven ADDICTIVE product...some say more addictive then HEROIN? Remember that fear-porn?

It's obvious you don't care about people.

Light 08-03-2021 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage (Post 2743071)
The only reason I like Trump is because HE MAKES YOU INSANE

Trump is, indeed, a USEFUL IDIOT

No. he makes YOU insane. You've started over 100 threads about him. You are obsessed with him. You and your Trumpies here are so upset that Trump lost. You waste all your energies lamenting and bitching.

For me Trump is a fool who will reap the disaster that he has sown in this life and the afterlife. Its all taken care of for me.


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