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jay68802 03-18-2018 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thaskalos (Post 2291670)
What "new fan"?

All the "sports bettors" that are going to wager on horse racing when it becomes legal.

thaskalos 03-18-2018 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jay68802 (Post 2291672)
All the "sports bettors" that are going to wager on horse racing when it becomes legal.

Don't you mean it the other way around? :)

Dave Schwartz 03-18-2018 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dilanesp (Post 2291662)
The fact that late money is smart money is a big reason to do something about large wagers near post time. They are obviously creating an information asymmetry by betting at the last second.

The fundamental problem has got to be that the tracks don't want to lose this handle. If that were not the case there are things that could be done.

Typical horse player mentality would be to think that the later I bet, the more it improves my chances.

:lol:

It only improves your chances if you have a way to improve your selections late.

cj 03-18-2018 05:44 PM

At this point it might be more fair if nobody knew the odds until pools were closed.

thaskalos 03-18-2018 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz (Post 2291742)
Typical horse player mentality would be to think that the later I bet, the more it improves my chances.

:lol:

It only improves your chances if you have a way to improve your selections late.

IMO...the average horseplayer would benefit greatly if he waited until the last seconds to place his bets. He would save a ton of money by repeatedly getting shut out of the wagering.

jay68802 03-18-2018 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by thaskalos (Post 2291680)
Don't you mean it the other way around? :)

You are correct, I was Posting Under The Influence again.;)

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Originally Posted by Dave Schwartz (Post 2291742)
Typical horse player mentality would be to think that the later I bet, the more it improves my chances.

:lol:

It only improves your chances if you have a way to improve your selections late.

And if you did not catch the 11th at GP today you missed a easy one that paid 4-1. It ended up taking 16% of the last dump.

cj 03-21-2018 04:20 PM

This one was as bad as I've seen in a while, and of course the horse won.



AltonKelsey 03-21-2018 04:47 PM

I don't have the pp's for that , but the horse was 15-1 on the ML , won last, and was ridden by an Ortiz.

Clearly , some serious steam there.

But plenty of those lose, just never get mentioned. So it leaves the impression that big betdowns are locks.

Some big bettors find out that the horse is 110% and they send it in. Just a matter of how much they want to crush their own odds.

Lafecs 03-21-2018 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AltonKelsey (Post 2292628)
I don't have the pp's for that , but the horse was 15-1 on the ML , won last, and was ridden by an Ortiz.

Clearly , some serious steam there.

But plenty of those lose, just never get mentioned. So it leaves the impression that big betdowns are locks.

Some big bettors find out that the horse is 110% and they send it in. Just a matter of how much they want to crush their own odds.

That’s not steam. That’s Ortiz’s uncle paying for his new BMW. . .:)

AltonKelsey 03-21-2018 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Lafecs (Post 2292640)
That’s not steam. That’s Ortiz’s uncle paying for his new BMW. . .:)

Could be, I know I was born into the wrong family, no jockeys.

jay68802 03-21-2018 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cj (Post 2292616)
This one was as bad as I've seen in a while, and of course the horse won.

https://twitter.com/EJXD2/status/976553156388802563

https://twitter.com/EJXD2/status/976553510677426177

Took 43.4 percent of the money from when they put the 1st horse in the gate. Or 7/5.

acorn54 03-21-2018 09:24 PM

we live in a capitalistic country. if you don't like the rules that the racing authorities want to offer, don't accept them. move on caveat emptor.

cutchemist42 03-21-2018 10:33 PM

And posters here claim its not a problem and that they can predict it........

Im so glad to be back on Betfair.

cj 03-22-2018 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by acorn54 (Post 2292726)
we live in a capitalistic country. if you don't like the rules that the racing authorities want to offer, don't accept them. move on caveat emptor.


Sadly, many people have moved on.

Prioress Ply 03-22-2018 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by acorn54 (Post 2292726)
we live in a capitalistic country. if you don't like the rules that the racing authorities want to offer, don't accept them. move on caveat emptor.

Great attitude that has served the industry so well.


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