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PalaceOfFortLarned 08-21-2022 08:27 AM

Nest
 
Pretty special filly that is bred and has shown that she can run all day.

BC Distaff seems like a cinch for her right now. Is the Classic possibly next for Nest?

I think we all fall into the filly hype. Zenyatta. Rachel Alexandra. Beholder. Songbird. The great Z even beat the boys in the biggest and toughest race to be ran, and 2nd the year after.

After a somewhat troubled trip in the Belmont, and 2 very strong performances coming out of that race where should she run? BC Distaff? BC Classic?

the little guy 08-21-2022 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PalaceOfFortLarned (Post 2825607)
Pretty special filly that is bred and has shown that she can run all day.

BC Distaff seems like a cinch for her right now. Is the Classic possibly next for Nest?

I think we all fall into the filly hype. Zenyatta. Rachel Alexandra. Beholder. Songbird. The great Z even beat the boys in the biggest and toughest race to be ran, and 2nd the year after.

After a somewhat troubled trip in the Belmont, and 2 very strong performances coming out of that race where should she run? BC Distaff? BC Classic?

She's not even the likely favorite for the Distaff. This is really silly stuff.

PalaceOfFortLarned 08-21-2022 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by the little guy (Post 2825610)
She's not even the likely favorite for the Distaff. This is really silly stuff.

I agree. I think it is silly, but seems to kind of be the question being asked out of her Alabama performance yesterday.

Personally, I don't see it as all that amazing. 2:03 and change is 2:03 and change. Great times were ran yesterday on that track. If it was 2:01 and change, maybe I'd have a different outlook.

Great filly nonetheless.

Andy Asaro 08-21-2022 08:55 AM

Whether Irad was race riding or not she traveled a lot farther than she needed to by going really wide through the turn and into the stretch and then coming in toward the rail. She is special and I like the connections. Irad not so much

classhandicapper 08-21-2022 09:34 AM

I think she’s better now than last years’s crop of 3yo fillies at this time (who were good in their own right), but they are older mares now and have moved forward. She’s got a couple of months of development potential before she has to face them, but she looks like she fits to me.

PhantomOnTour 08-21-2022 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by the little guy (Post 2825610)
She's not even the likely favorite for the Distaff. This is really silly stuff.

She may well be favored in the Distaff.

Her 104 Beyer in the Coaching Club (same distance as the Distaff) is only two points lower than the 106 put up by Clariere and Malathaat, who are the presumed leaders of the older Filly/Mare dirt division right now, and the latter may be slipping a bit, which leaves one older mare in her way....Clariere.
It's entirely plausible that Nest can develop further and surpass both of them.

Not sure about the status of Letruska, but she hasn't run as fast as Nest this year (Beyer-wise). I may be overlooking a mare out west, but as far as the east is concerned, it's her and Clariere imo.

Andy Asaro 08-21-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PhantomOnTour (Post 2825616)
She may well be favored in the Distaff.

Her 104 Beyer in the Coaching Club (same distance as the Distaff) is only two points lower than the 106 put up by Clariere and Malathaat, who are the presumed leaders of the older Filly/Mare dirt division right now, and the latter may be slipping a bit, which leaves one older mare in her way....Clariere.
It's entirely plausible that Nest can develop further and surpass both of them.

Not sure about the status of Letruska, but she hasn't run as fast as Nest this year (Beyer-wise).

Nest can and will beat them both. She's not close to being maxed out on figures yet IMO

Letruska is done

Spalding No! 08-21-2022 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy Asaro (Post 2825617)
Letruska is done

I think Letruska has half a dozen bullet works since her loss in the Ogden Phipps.

Maybe they are only B+ works or something...

the little guy 08-21-2022 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Spalding No! (Post 2825622)
I think Letruska has half a dozen bullet works since her loss in the Ogden Phipps.

Maybe they are only B+ works or something...

She's running in the Personal Ensign

the little guy 08-21-2022 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy Asaro (Post 2825613)
Whether Irad was race riding or not she traveled a lot farther than she needed to by going really wide through the turn and into the stretch and then coming in toward the rail. She is special and I like the connections. Irad not so much

Everyone is pretty much staying off the inside in all dirt races.

Sheffwed 08-21-2022 10:23 AM

Sharp Handicapping
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the little guy (Post 2825610)
She's not even the likely favorite for the Distaff. This is really silly stuff.

nice job picking against her yesterday, some really valuable insight there

the little guy 08-21-2022 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheffwed (Post 2825626)
nice job picking against her yesterday, some really valuable insight there

It must pain you every day to see how well I have been handicapping the races this meet.

It must really suck being you.

PalaceOfFortLarned 08-21-2022 10:42 AM


Andy Asaro 08-21-2022 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by the little guy (Post 2825625)
Everyone is pretty much staying off the inside in all dirt races.

Right and she appears to be more comfortable outside of horses. But that was extreme.

Sheffwed 08-21-2022 11:07 AM

No pain
 
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Originally Posted by the little guy (Post 2825630)
It must pain you every day to see how well I have been handicapping the races this meet.

It must really suck being you.

oh yeah, nice job yesterday, picking against Echo Again and Nest

how well you handicap indeed

next you'll take credit for the record wagering levels in US horse racing because you convinced people to bet against two superstars


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