Originally Posted by skate

Which brings the question, "how could a responsible Republican vote for McMcain"/

Originally Posted by hcap

Replace the words "Five Terrorists" with "Five Criminals" and it is a familiar police situation. What would professional Police departments do?

Forms of coercion are necessary in desperate situations. When the government engages in forms already deemed against the law, at least transparency and oversight is required. Many times situations are no where near as desperate as you portray, and many times the forms are illegal. It would be nice to know how many times the administration broke the law on their claim of "the means justifies the ends".

Before you cite Rare and EXTREME situations to justify your EXTREME argument be aware of the civil rights slipery slope you are accepting.

Originally Posted by Tom

Whatever it takes. No matter who the bad guy is. Operative word here is bad.
At some point, the "presumption" of innocence is just plain ridiculous. We are far to easy on criminals in this country.

I read an article in the Post today - a cop killer from 1973 is getting out. Funny, the cop is still dead.

Originally Posted by 46zilzal

You have terrorists in your neighborhood? Strange.

Originally Posted by King Ritchie

While your at work your wife, 5 year old daughter, 2 year old son, your new baby girl, your parents are preparing a birthday party for you. Five Terrorists with hoods and all break into your house and capture your family. They then burry your entire family in a shallow grave with enough air to last 4 hours. When one of the terrorists makes a phone call for ransom he is captured by police while tracing the call. Now the question: To what extreme do you go to save your family?

Originally Posted by PaceAdvantage

Who else is he going to vote for? Barry? Hillary? Get real....

Originally Posted by King Ritchie

Typical liberal - no answer to the question.